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Hey Brian Since you guys are on good terms with Nick, do you think there is any chance of releasing the original Seasons of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers on DVD? Would love to own the first season.


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Power Rangers Seasons 8-12 DVD Box Set Review:

http://blog.samuraicast.com/power-rangers-seasons-8-12-dvd-box-set-review/

 

 

Power Rangers: Seasons 8-12 DVD Set

the price at DVD Pacific as of right now is $110.87 

http://dvdpacific.directtoustore.com/power-rangers-seasons-8-12/82666314...

 

Power Rangers: Seasons 4-7 DVD Set 

the price at DVD Pacific as of right now is $81.50 

http://dvdpacific.directtoustore.com/power-rangers-seasons-4-7/826663134629

 

 

 

Brian Ward said in this Rangerboard thread:

http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?p=4522813#post4522813

 

Here's the thing. I'm gutted. I've been reluctant to say anything about Time Force until I absolutely had to, which means when the DVDs shipped to the plant. Even then, I didn't know what to say. Frankly, it comes down to this. You will never know just how hard I tried to get this right. This isn't Saban's fault. They helped me out immeasurably in the search for good pre-9/11 masters. The fans aren't to blame because several of them provided me with their personal recording. But they just. didn't. work. I personally edited five different personal collections worth of video with legit masters, did encode tests and not one of them held up after encoding. I realize that this would have been okay for many of you, but I'm not just making these sets for you guys. Archival bonus features are one thing. But I cannot let the quality of the episodes suffer because of this. Like I said, I'm gutted. And I feel like I let the fandom down in that regard.

 

But... You WILL be receiving the "Ransik Lives" version with the speech's (albeit slighty altered) audio in tact--NOT the music covering the scene. Hope that's worth something.

Got my pre-order in with Amazon!! November can't get here quick enough!! Can't wait for the last mega set. Maybe we will get lucky and Lionsgate with continue to allow Shout to put out the S/SS and MF episodes out since they would have already made sets for the Legacy set... yeah I know, wishful thinking! I just hate having to buy all those volumes of Lionsgate releases and they are pretty crappy. $10-20 for one episode. Come on!

What's In The Shout Box?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fqEz6am1QE

 

Shout Box Opened!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TukWNgxU58

 

Power Rangers Legacy: The First 20 Years DVD Collection

http://blog.samuraicast.com/power-rangers-legacy-first-20-years-dvd-box-...

 

How To Detect A Bootleg Copy Of Your DVD - Weekly Shout Out: Episode 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ2pLFDSgZc

 

Interview with Brian Ward

http://danstokurants.rangercentral.com/?p=2573

 

Amit Bhaumik's Original Power Rangers Samurai Proposal

http://amitbhaumik.tumblr.com/post/59915514235/original-power-rangers-sa...

 

Reasons for why the Today On Power Rangers segments were not included on Shout!'s MMPR DVD's.

 

Brian Ward said on Twitter:

There were a few reasons, the first of which was that by adding them we were looking at an 11th episode per disc.  Too Much.

https://twitter.com/BWard028/status/365996884348776448

 

Second, we didn't drop them.  They weren't attached to the masters, so we'd have needed to add them.

https://twitter.com/BWard028/status/365997061662973952

 

Third, it's designed for broadcast; not for binge viewing.

https://twitter.com/BWard028/status/365997207687667715

 

Yeah, I give it about 5 months after the 8-12 megaset is out before we hear news, but I'm sure it will be in early-mid 2014. Hopefully I'm still alive. Lol

So excited to hear they are already planning a new megaset release! I wonder if they will just be using the same discs they are making for the Legacy sets in their megasets for seasons 8-17. It would save them lots of money and time.

 

Also, they announced the release of Volume 1 for Zeo today too.

 

I would not be surprised if by this time next year, that Shout! will have already released the Final Megaset of S.P.D. thru R.P.M.

 

I wanted the Legacy set, but just can't afford it. IF they had come in indiviual cases and not some gimmick helmet to attract all the fanboys and make them go apeshit, I would buy it. I don't like how the DVDs are going to be housed either.

 

As for the others, I received my Zeo - Lost Galaxy boxset today, and it make me even happier I ordered it instead of the Legacy set. I love having each series in its on case. I can't wait for the remaining seasons Shout will be releasing... release the next megaset by Christmas, please!!! Can't wait to see Time Force and some SPD!!!

 

I also wish Lionsgate put effor into their PR releases. They are just like Disney, feeding us cheap volumes with missing episodes. They should take note from Shout's releases!!!

 

Edit: After watching the special features, I'm sad we didn't get anything from Amy Jo Johnson, or any of the Space cast members, and just two members from Lost Galaxy. Where none of them at the events that they were being interviewed about? I can understand Amy, she probably was busy filming her show, but I thought more from these seasons made appearances?

 

Also sad to see the first two Pilot episodes were not included. Was there no good source to get them from? I know there was some low quality rips on RangerBoard before of both of the Pilots - not including the LG "Lost Episode" which has BOTH Trini's in it...

 

Other than those few things, these sets are AMAZING!! Seeing the Zeo sneak peaks - I don't remember ever seeing those on TV!

Well, having exclusive content sucks, especially for those of us that got the early Time Life set and expected future large sets to continue off from that, instead of starting over and offering even more.

It also sucks (though it is out of Shout! Factory's hands) that they can only include Samurai, Super Samurai, and MegaForce in this set.  Lionsgate's Power Ranger releases so far are horrible.  Most of Samurai is spread across 5 single disc DVDs, except for the last two episodes (Party Monsters and Christmas Together, Friends Forever) which are each on their own DVD, both of which include episodes from previous seasons (which we have if we got the Time Life set).  The Super Samurai complete series does not include the double-length Clash of the Red Rangers, which is on its own disc.  They also didn't include the Trickster Treat or Stuck On Christmas episodes.

I was so excited when the Time Life set was announced and couldn't wait for more.  The way Shout Factory! is now handling this new set is very disappointing.

Brian Ward said in this Rangerboard thread:

http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?p=4449597#post4449597

 

Just stopping in for a QUICK second. Slammed, Obviously, so can't stay long. Quick clarification:

 

Time Life had an exclusive on the sets for a window of time, meaning they were the only place you could get them. The Legacy Collection will have exclusive content that will ONLY be avaiable via the Legacy Collection. So think of the Legacy Collection as Time Life in this scenario, not as the former mega sets. The mega sets will NOT have meterial that the Legacy Collection doesn't have, but the Legacy Collection WILL have material not included within the mega sets. This meterial will NOT be made availabe via any other route. Can't talk about what that material is, yet.

 

We do NOT have the license to SAMURAI, SUPER SAMURAI, or MEGAFORCE. Those still belong to Lionsgate, so we won't be including those seasons in any future mega sets or as single-season sets. And we will NOT be authoring them on Blu.

 

We also do NOT have the license to THE MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS: THE MOVIE or TURBO: A POWER RANGERS MOVIE. Don't read too much into this. We will NOT be acquiring those films. At least not anytime soon, that I'm aware of. Those belong to Fox. The slots are conveniently located for you to include those copies that you have, should you want your entire 20-year collection in one place.

 

NO reversions planned. We'd need a lot more discs than 98, if we were basically going to double up on episodes like that.

 

We WILL continue with the mega sets, though haven't settled on a configuration. Should be close. Hoping to say more about that soon.

 

That's all I can say for now. Will be back soon for a more thorough update. Keep ideas for material coming. I'm still working off of the original list and with a few folks who've been kind enough to donate pieces from their collections. Working on making these upcoming sets the best possible. Don't ever want to be outdone!

 

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers DVD Box Set Review:

http://blog.samuraicast.com/mighty-morphin-power-rangers-box-set-review/

 

Power Rangers Zeo to Lost Galaxy DVD Box Set Review:

http://blog.samuraicast.com/power-rangers-zeo-to-lost-galaxy-dvd-box-set...

First off, I won't be buying the Legacy set. I would love to, but not gonna happen. Placing discs in tins - won't that cause scratching? I don't like scratches on my discs, especially when they are new.

Secondly, it's nice to release a set like that, after you released the first 7 seasons in a boxset for $200+.

Thirdly, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Shout say they were only releasing sets up to a certain season, and that Lionsgate would be in charge of the rest? When did that change? I see Shout and Lionsgate are both releasing the same seasons on DVD now...

Lastly, how long will those who won't be buying the Legacy set have to wait for each season? I don't want to be collecting seasons for the next 5 years. I hope you guys continue to release sets like the Zeo, Turbo, Space sets - as a complete series and not split up into volumes like Seasons 1-3.

MMPR to Megaforce DVD Set

                                                                                                                      http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Mighty-Morphin-Power-Rangers-Legacy-The-First-20-Years/18729     

My replacement VR Troopers DVD and sleeve with the missing episode has been delivered to my middleman in NC today, folks... just to keep informed. (@lincolnkevin in particular).  If you still haven't requested yours, email your proof of purchase to info@shoutfactory.com.

Count on it!

Are there going to be anymore Power Rangers sets ? I'd love to see up to Mystic Force.

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when will the vr troopers episode grimloards house of fears be reeleased is was meant to be on season 1 volume 2 but was missed out

You have to contact Shout! by email to get the correct DVD mailed to you, along with a new case insert with the correct episode listings. You need to send a picture of your DVD and proof of purcahse (picture of receipt to info@shoutfactory.com along with your full name and mailing address and let them know it's for the VR Troopers DVD. I received mine within a week of emailing.

As for them contining to release mega and sean sets, I'd love to know when the next mega set will be out. It's been over 6 months since the first mega set was released. The second part of that mega set is released next week. I hope we get news soon for the next mega set.

I bought the complete boxset and it is really great, however, I'm a bit disappointed that the sets were not released in airdate order. I'm not a fan of production order or whatever order Shout! chose. Sorry, but that's just how I like to watch my shows. :/ 

will yous be bringing out power rangers on dvd region 4?

We won't, but someone else might. We only have the right to release it in Region 1. Sorry.

Many thanks!

 

For the record, would absolutely love to have an interview with Mr. Wasserman included on one of the sets down the road.

That's a big help. Thanks!

Reviving this as the definitive thread for all things Power Rangers, including series that took place in 2000 and beyond. Due to time constraints and issues with confusing others, this is the only thread I'll read pertaining to the various Power Rangers series.

 

Thanks, gang!

 

Hey Brian, I have a question: Are we going to see the Disney Seasons be released? I'm wondering because Saban had nothing to really do with them other than the fact that it's Power Rangers.

The Disney seasons are included in our deal; yes.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

http://www.timelife.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=1001&langId=-1&productId=1339001&categoryId=27501

 

From the looks of it, they look like sets... It doesn't look like 2 separate parts for a Season set... Tvshowsondemand must of been misinformed... Also there will be 3 extra dvds containing interviews and stuff that will not be on the other sets from Shout Factory... It looks like it's packed with extras...

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

So the new Time Life offer is up. I gotta say, I'm just a wee bit disappointed that the only real bonus for jumping onboard the massive $200+ purchase is an action figure. I mean, neat-o and all, but not even a cardboard slipcase or something? A few extra bonus features? Nada?!



From tvshowsondvd.com:



"Note that there is NOT any overall "slipcase" packaging for this title: these are the same sets that Shout! Factory will be selling individually, and Time Life will take the separate disc cases and the action figure, and wrap them in bubble wrap and send them to you in a regular shipping carton. The price is $219.95 SRP, which may sound like a lot at first, but at 40 discs it breaks down to just $5.49 per DVD. Or, putting bonus stuff aside, it's just 65¢ per episode...$31.42 per season. And standard shipping is available for free. It's a great value, any way you look at it. And if you cannot afford the entire $219.95 cost at once, you can break it down into 5 easy installments of $43.99 per payment. Sounds good to us!"



Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh and roll my eyes at parts of this. HOLY WOW, THEY BUBBLE WRAP IT FOR US!!



Also, I already have an Amazon Prime membership, so the free "standard" shipping doesn't seem all too special to me.



My real question, which I can't quite garner from the tvshowsondvd.com listing or from Time Life's own website, is whether or not the entire 7 seasons are going to be available on their ship date in August? That's about the only reason I can see to sign up for this, not having to wait for each individual part to come out. Also, they're listing "Season Sets" as available through Time Life, which contradicts what I'm seeing posted here about the "same sets" Shout! is selling individually. Are the Time Life ones a full season set, or a Part 1/Part 2 set like what's being released on Amazon?

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

It's nice to know that Power Rangers series will finally have a decent DVD release! Another great TV show from my childhood!! When I heard the news I was so excited! I'll preorder the first volume as soon as it's available on Amazon.ca.

Thank you very much Brian Ward for your time and efforts. :)

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Brian, is it possible that the boxsets will provide names for the unnamed monsters from Power Rangers?  Their names might be available to you

The ones that could be named are

Season 2
Zedd's Monster Mash-Key Monster

Zeo
Invasion Of The Ranger Snatchers-showerhead and signal monsters
Rangers Of Two Worlds, Part II-Cog Changer-Impursenator combo

in Space
Rangers Gone Psycho -Owl Monster

Time Force
A Parting Of Ways-Punk Mutant
Short-Circuited-Jellyfish Mutant
The Legend Of The Clock Tower -Robot Mutant

Ninja Storm
Shimazu Returns-combined Wolfblade
Down & Dirty- "Marahzord", "Kaprizord", & "Shimazuzord"
Storm Before the Calm- "Lothorzord" 

Dino Thunder
Waving Goodbye- Bird mutant
Thunder Storm part 2- clown and dragon monsters

SPD
Shadow part 1- bus-kidnapping monster:
Dismissed- green monster
Robotpalooza- purple mist montser
The Endings part 2- monsters drawn by Mora

Mystic Force
Broken Spell part 1- Troll
Legendary Catastros- Rock Troll

also do you have information of unproduced episodes?  MMPR season 2 had an episode called "Lost & Found" with a  Birdcage monster. Who knows maybe they have info?

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Even with a better codec, I don't think Netflix can really compare to the much higher bitrate of DVD. If I remember correctly, SD content on Netflix tops out around 3 or 4 megabits. Also, Netflix seems to have run the episodes through a deinterlacer. Having no deinterlacing will be a big advantage for the DVDs- it really destroys the video quality.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

MPEG2 was largely old before DVDs were out, and yes, it's always had issues.

Power Rangers has decent source tapes, but not excellent. Beyond proof over the years from seeing staff copies, we know they aren't 'excellent', but they are quite decent.

Assuming Netflix got reasonable quality masters (a fair assumption), the fact that they use codecs that are far less destructive than MPG2, the most reasonable assumption is they will look 'roughly' the same as they do on Netflix.

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by Cyrax9 at 5/10/2012 9:27:08 PM

 
  MPEG–2 doesn't have "compression issues;" it was simply designed to make use of less compression from the get–go. AVC is an MPEG–4 codec, (specifically designated as MPEG–4 Part 10,) and MPEG–4 itself was specifically designed to meet the needs of devices where the use of MPEG–2 would be impractical if not impossible. MPEG–2 was designed for traditional distribution formats that could handle much larger files, while MPEG–4 was designed with internet distribution in mind.

  Having said that, you're general premise is absolutely correct. People shouldn't assume that something will automatically "look better" because it's on a DVD; the quality is only as good as the source material. However, we know that PR has some very good source material. The completed episodes were digitally mastered onto D2/Digital Betacam as I noted above, and shouldn't pose the type of problems that would be caused by lower quality source material. If we were talking about something mastered onto analog tape, I would absolutely agree with you that any quality improvement would probably be negligible. (Likewise, if we were talking about a film from the '50s or '60s where even rescanned film might show its age, I would agree with you as well.) The source material for Power Rangers shouldn't be an issue though.

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by bammybam at 5/10/2012 8:39:04 PM

Still not quite true.

MPEG2, the codec used for DVDs, is quite old and always had compression issues, it requires much more bitrate to equal the more modern codecs Netflix uses.

I don't recall if Netflix switched from VC1 to AVC, but both codecs are relatively close in bitrate equating to quality, which is quite a bit better than MPEG2. And it isn't a small amount. But my point is mostly- Don't magically assume the episodes will just 'look better'. Shout is one of the better companies when it comes to putting quality first, but they can only use what they are given, and what exists.

 

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

  The reversioning effects should be in HD, assuming that Disney's technical information is correct. (I can't imagine why it wouldn't be, but stranger things have certainly happened.)

  As for Netflix, I'm pretty sure that its default setting is to automatically adapt the bitrate to one's internet connection at any given time; the downside to this is that the quality of the footage fluctuates with the speed of the aforementioned connection. The quality of Netflix's masters usually aren't an issue, and most DVD manufacturers will be provided with the same masters should they request them. There are some exceptions to the rule, (e.g. a DVD pressed when DVDs were relatively new with older mastering techniques,) but for the most part DVDs will look better than what's available on Netflix.

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by johnboy3434 at 5/10/2012 4:10:12 PM

Whoa, thanks for the response, Cyrax9! I've got a mean completist streak, so if the reversioning effects are in HD quality on the actual masters, I'm hoping for a Blu-ray release just so I can say I have them.

bammybam,

Well, the manual bitrate selection for the NetFlix episodes tops out at 1750 kbps, so that's the benchmark the DVDs need to meet (assuming these setting are global and not adapting specifically to my connection; could I get confirmation on this?). At 200 minutes per disk, 1750 kbps comes to 2.44 GB. Theoretically, a single-layer disc can feature the same material with a bitrate as high as 3133 kbps.

  FortMax, Toei actually did remaster episode six of Carranger–Timeranger, but the remastering techniques that they used were far less effective than those that they used on other seasons. Toei literally had "remastered from a new print" in a bulleted list as one of those selling points for those seasons when they were first released on DVD. The Timeranger set was Toei's first attempt to remaster a modern season, which is part of the reason that it looks the way it does. (I actually purchased the initial pressing of each disc in that set when it was initially released.) Given that Timeranger was remastered in 2004, the technology available at the time, and the fact that this was Toei's first attempt to remaster modern Sentai, I can honestly overlook a lot of the flaws in the set. Of course, if Toei were to remaster Timeranger with modern techniques, I'd gladly double–dip for another set of Timeranger. You're absolutely correct about Gaoranger–Magiranger though; those would need the full TNG–R treatment. (It wouldn't hurt if Megaranger–Timeranger and the first six episodes of Carranger were handled that way as well.)

  As for Power Rangers, it was never shot on SD videotape; the first 17 seasons (MMPR–PRRPM) were shot on 16mm film suitable for 2K resolutions, which are suitable for creating 1080p "full" HD masters. (For reference, Star Trek: The Next Generation was shot on 35mm film suitable for 4K resolutions, and also suitable for creating "Full HD" and "Quad–Full HD" masters, should the 2160p/QFHD/2K4K HDTV format ever be adopted.) MMPR–PRRPM were edited and finalized onto digital tape formats including D2 and Digital Betacam; in other words, the completed episodes have always been stored in a digital format. One of the people behind the German DVD releases confirmed that the show was originally mastered onto DigiBeta, at least for some countries that utilize the PAL video system. Saban's "145 Days of Power Rangers" from 2010 confirms the existence of D2 masters dating back to 1993. Many of the episodes included the slate from the masters, and the slate included the dates that the tapes were completed, the type of master that was being utilized, and other information regarding the technical details of the show. Likewise, Brian mentioned on Rangerboard that Shout! Factory has access to D2 masters. (It honestly wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Saban Entertainment had utilized both the D2 and Digibeta format for both NTSC and PAL regions simultaneously.)

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by FortMax at 5/10/2012 6:36:11 PM

There's one small problem, though.

While Sentai was always shot in HD-quality, every series used in Power Rangers has had some effects that were done on video. In earlier series, it was limited to stock composite shots and text in the OP, but gradually increased. In fact, Toei didn't even remaster any episodes from episode 6 of Carranger through Timeranger (and Timeranger is a mess).

And for Gaoranger through Magiranger, ALL editing was done digitally in SD. The film is HD, but it'd need the ST:TNG treatment for an HD release. Boukenger through Go-Onger were shot on film and edited in HD, and they switched to digital cameras with Shinkenger.

However, this only applies to the footage as it was in Sentai. Power Rangers tended to add additional effects.
Also, wasn't Power Rangers shot on SD analog video tape through RPM? There isn't a way to get HD from that stuff.

  MPEG–2 doesn't have "compression issues;" it was simply designed to make use of less compression from the get–go. AVC is an MPEG–4 codec, (specifically designated as MPEG–4 Part 10,) and MPEG–4 itself was specifically designed to meet the needs of devices where the use of MPEG–2 would be impractical if not impossible. MPEG–2 was designed for traditional distribution formats that could handle much larger files, while MPEG–4 was designed with internet distribution in mind.

  Having said that, you're general premise is absolutely correct. People shouldn't assume that something will automatically "look better" because it's on a DVD; the quality is only as good as the source material. However, we know that PR has some very good source material. The completed episodes were digitally mastered onto D2/Digital Betacam as I noted above, and shouldn't pose the type of problems that would be caused by lower quality source material. If we were talking about something mastered onto analog tape, I would absolutely agree with you that any quality improvement would probably be negligible. (Likewise, if we were talking about a film from the '50s or '60s where even rescanned film might show its age, I would agree with you as well.) The source material for Power Rangers shouldn't be an issue though.

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by bammybam at 5/10/2012 8:39:04 PM

Still not quite true.

MPEG2, the codec used for DVDs, is quite old and always had compression issues, it requires much more bitrate to equal the more modern codecs Netflix uses.

I don't recall if Netflix switched from VC1 to AVC, but both codecs are relatively close in bitrate equating to quality, which is quite a bit better than MPEG2. And it isn't a small amount. But my point is mostly- Don't magically assume the episodes will just 'look better'. Shout is one of the better companies when it comes to putting quality first, but they can only use what they are given, and what exists.

 

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Power Rangers up through RPM was shot on film. It was mastered on tape, meaning that all the "finished" copies of the episodes are stuck in SD. It can be remastered in HD, but doing so would mean going back to the original film elements and reconstructing every episode from scratch. For a series as long as PR, that would cost a fortune.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Still not quite true.

MPEG2, the codec used for DVDs, is quite old and always had compression issues, it requires much more bitrate to equal the more modern codecs Netflix uses.

I don't recall if Netflix switched from VC1 to AVC, but both codecs are relatively close in bitrate equating to quality, which is quite a bit better than MPEG2. And it isn't a small amount. But my point is mostly- Don't magically assume the episodes will just 'look better'. Shout is one of the better companies when it comes to putting quality first, but they can only use what they are given, and what exists.

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by johnboy3434 at 5/10/2012 4:10:12 PM

Whoa, thanks for the response, Cyrax9! I've got a mean completist streak, so if the reversioning effects are in HD quality on the actual masters, I'm hoping for a Blu-ray release just so I can say I have them.

bammybam,

Well, the manual bitrate selection for the NetFlix episodes tops out at 1750 kbps, so that's the benchmark the DVDs need to meet (assuming these setting are global and not adapting specifically to my connection; could I get confirmation on this?). At 200 minutes per disk, 1750 kbps comes to 2.44 GB. Theoretically, a single-layer disc can feature the same material with a bitrate as high as 3133 kbps.

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by bammybam at 5/10/2012 3:16:25 PM

That isn't inherently true.

Netflix is often provided with high quality masters (D5 tapes, digibetas, DV) that when compressed down to the format Netflix uses, could quite possibly look better at Netflix's highest SD bitrate than they would on DVD, it all comes down to what Netflix was provided with.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

There's one small problem, though.

While Sentai was always shot in HD-quality, every series used in Power Rangers has had some effects that were done on video. In earlier series, it was limited to stock composite shots and text in the OP, but gradually increased. In fact, Toei didn't even remaster any episodes from episode 6 of Carranger through Timeranger (and Timeranger is a mess).

And for Gaoranger through Magiranger, ALL editing was done digitally in SD. The film is HD, but it'd need the ST:TNG treatment for an HD release. Boukenger through Go-Onger were shot on film and edited in HD, and they switched to digital cameras with Shinkenger.

However, this only applies to the footage as it was in Sentai. Power Rangers tended to add additional effects.
Also, wasn't Power Rangers shot on SD analog video tape through RPM? There isn't a way to get HD from that stuff.


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RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Whoa, thanks for the response, Cyrax9! I've got a mean completist streak, so if the reversioning effects are in HD quality on the actual masters, I'm hoping for a Blu-ray release just so I can say I have them.

bammybam,

Well, the manual bitrate selection for the NetFlix episodes tops out at 1750 kbps, so that's the benchmark the DVDs need to meet (assuming these setting are global and not adapting specifically to my connection; could I get confirmation on this?). At 200 minutes per disk, 1750 kbps comes to 2.44 GB. Theoretically, a single-layer disc can feature the same material with a bitrate as high as 3133 kbps.

----- Original Post -----
by bammybam at 5/10/2012 3:16:25 PM

That isn't inherently true.

Netflix is often provided with high quality masters (D5 tapes, digibetas, DV) that when compressed down to the format Netflix uses, could quite possibly look better at Netflix's highest SD bitrate than they would on DVD, it all comes down to what Netflix was provided with.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

    Wookieslayer, you do realize that what you've been watching on Netflix is (heavily compressed) standard definition video, right? The DVDs should look better than what's on Netflix because the quality of the material on the DVDs is superior to the quality of the material coming to you via Netflix. If DVDs with decent quality source material "look horrid" on your HDTV, than you either need new cables, a new DVD Player, or a new HDTV. If you have one of those DVD Players that upscales your video, (or a Blu–Ray player that does the same,) turn off the upscaling. A good HDTV will still be capable of displaying an excellent standard definition image from a standard definition source.

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by wookieslayer at 5/9/2012 11:03:14 PM

awww no bluray sets to be released anymore. i am a sad panda. I guess I will just watch them on netflix till they take them down. or go to my friends place and watch them when he gets them dvds look horrid on hd tvs. :-(

  Johnboy, you raise a really interesting question about the reversioning; it's quite possible that the FX themselves were mastered for 720p. One of the MMPR–R toys (I can't remember which one, or I'd have bought it by now,) came with a DVD of the reversioned Day of the Dumpster. Much like most of "145 Days of PR," the aforementioned DVD included everything from the master down to the slate and textless material after the episode. The slate (which I wish I had saved,) implies that the reversioned footage was taken from the original 2K film, and that the episodes themselves were finalized in 720p for HD distribution. (Which makes sense given that ABC stations all broadcast HD in 720p, and Disney intended for MMPR–R to only be shown on ABC Kids.) Even if the elements were upscaled, it's still possible that the FX sequences were created with HD resolutions in mind.

  As for what software Disney used, I seem to remember the running joke being that the reversioning was done in Windows Movie Maker. In truth, Disney likely used Adobe After Effects for the creation and compositing of any new 2D FX work. I can't think of any significant 3D FX sequences, but if any were created, they probably would have been done in a program like Maya. The actual editing could have very well been done in Adobe Premiere Pro, just as it could have been done in Final Cut Pro 7, or Avid; all three are professional editing packages, and most major studios retain copies of all three programs. (I've said this before elsewhere, but depending on the program, it's not uncommon for professional studios to be using equipment that's five years old running programs that a lot of people have heard of.) You raise a good point about the FX though; that could justify an HD release. If Disney rescanned the film, (they may or may not have, and if they did, they might not have rescanned all of what would have been needed for a proper remastering of the first 30 episodes,) that would certainly justify such a release as well. Of course, this is obviously still very hypothetical.

One other thing I can think of though, where MMPR–R could actually be a useful tool, is in the case of justifying a proper remastering. The company that would likely pay for such a thing would be Saban Brands, but it's also possible that Netflix would be willing to foot a large portion of the bill if they wanted PR in HD. (Netflix is supposedly helping to pay for a good chunk Star Trek: TNG–R, because they wanted that show in HD.) Without prodding from Netflix or the creation of a NickToons HD, there really isn't much incentive for Saban Brands to remaster MMPR though. However, if Netflix prodded Saban Brands and offered to put some money into the process, the reversioning could potentially push out a proper remastering because the remastered footage for MMPR S1 could be used for what's essentially a second production; in other words, MMPR–R could help justify the cost of a proper remastering. Again, it's unlikely, but still possible.

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by johnboy3434 at 5/10/2012 9:31:42 AM

I just thought of something: What's the native resolution of the added effects from the reversioning? Cyrax9, you know a lot about production and the like. We joke about them using Adobe Premiere, but what program would the reversioning actually be using, and what are the odds of the new effects being HD? And the reversioning would have been mastered digitally, so that the original resolution of the effects would be preserved, right?

Obviously, the original elements are still roughly SD due to the tape mastering, but if the new stuff is natively HD, then a Blu-ray release of those 32 episodes may not be completely pointless. Yeah, it wouldn't be worth it to those of us who know better (i.e. that the elements that actually matter will all be upscaled), but you could truthfully say on the box that the episodes have "new HD special effects!" to try and sell it.

Yeah, I don't see it happening either, but it's thought, anyway.

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by Cyrax9 at 5/9/2012 10:03:36 PM

Johnboy kind of beat me to it here; if Shout! Factory has the rights to it, and they want to release MMPR–R, I really don't see the harm in them doing so.

As for why the reversioning should see a DVD release, I can think of one very obvious reason: completion. MMPR–R is like the "Special Edition" Star Wars films; I'm not opposed to it as long as the original version of the work is available as well, and the original version of MMPR S1 will be available this summer along with six other seasons.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

That isn't inherently true.

Netflix is often provided with high quality masters (D5 tapes, digibetas, DV) that when compressed down to the format Netflix uses, could quite possibly look better at Netflix's highest SD bitrate than they would on DVD, it all comes down to what Netflix was provided with.

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by johnboy3434 at 5/10/2012 7:40:04 AM

Keep in mind, though, that the DVDs will look better than the NetFlix versions, because NetFlix has to compress the video in order to effectively stream it. The compression for DVD won't be anywhere near as much. Also, Samurai and onward are perfectly viable for a Blu-ray release, so you have that to look forward to.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

I just thought of something: What's the native resolution of the added effects from the reversioning? Cyrax9, you know a lot about production and the like. We joke about them using Adobe Premiere, but what program would the reversioning actually be using, and what are the odds of the new effects being HD? And the reversioning would have been mastered digitally, so that the original resolution of the effects would be preserved, right?

Obviously, the original elements are still roughly SD due to the tape mastering, but if the new stuff is natively HD, then a Blu-ray release of those 32 episodes may not be completely pointless. Yeah, it wouldn't be worth it to those of us who know better (i.e. that the elements that actually matter will all be upscaled), but you could truthfully say on the box that the episodes have "new HD special effects!" to try and sell it.

Yeah, I don't see it happening either, but it's thought, anyway.

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by Cyrax9 at 5/9/2012 10:03:36 PM

Johnboy kind of beat me to it here; if Shout! Factory has the rights to it, and they want to release MMPR–R, I really don't see the harm in them doing so.

As for why the reversioning should see a DVD release, I can think of one very obvious reason: completion. MMPR–R is like the "Special Edition" Star Wars films; I'm not opposed to it as long as the original version of the work is available as well, and the original version of MMPR S1 will be available this summer along with six other seasons.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Heck, I'd buy it for two reasons: 1.)  I'm an obsessive completionist.  2.)  I am a HUGE fan of all things Tokusatsu, particularly the Super Sentai series and all it's inspired.  I take the good with the bad.  The only Saban release coming from S!F I don't really have an interest in is Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation (never got into it).

Now, if only they put out a release of Masked Rider, and I could find a good DVD set of France Five and Thailand's Squadron Sport Ranger (both seasons), I would be the happiest man alive...

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by Cyrax9 at 5/9/2012 10:03:36 PM

Johnboy kind of beat me to it here; if Shout! Factory has the rights to it, and they want to release MMPR–R, I really don't see the harm in them doing so.

As for why the reversioning should see a DVD release, I can think of one very obvious reason: completion. MMPR–R is like the "Special Edition" Star Wars films; I'm not opposed to it as long as the original version of the work is available as well, and the original version of MMPR S1 will be available this summer along with six other seasons.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

There were never going to be Blu-ray sets of MMPR through RPM. The masters were completed on tape, which means that they're stuck in standard definition. The only way they'll ever be HD is if someone goes back to the original film and recomposites every single special effect by hand in a higher definition format. That's simply too expensive for a show as long as PR.

Keep in mind, though, that the DVDs will look better than the NetFlix versions, because NetFlix has to compress the video in order to effectively stream it. The compression for DVD won't be anywhere near as much. Also, Samurai and onward are perfectly viable for a Blu-ray release, so you have that to look forward to.

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awww no bluray sets to be released anymore. i am a sad panda. I guess I will just watch them on netflix till they take them down. or go to my friends place and watch them when he gets them dvds look horrid on hd tvs. :-(

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Very well. If they want to release that, it's up to them. I'm not going to buy that trash. It's completely disgraful to the original MMPR. Disney and the guy who messed up poor MMPR. :-/

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Johnboy kind of beat me to it here; if Shout! Factory has the rights to it, and they want to release MMPR–R, I really don't see the harm in them doing so.

As for why the reversioning should see a DVD release, I can think of one very obvious reason: completion. MMPR–R is like the "Special Edition" Star Wars films; I'm not opposed to it as long as the original version of the work is available as well, and the original version of MMPR S1 will be available this summer along with six other seasons.

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by Anthony at 5/9/2012 9:36:25 PM

Ok, I'm a pigheaded... :-/. They don't need to release MMPRv2 on DVD. I mean they are releasing MMPR season 1, volume 1 this August and MMPR season 1 to release in the near future. What's the point of release MMPRv2?

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by johnboy3434 at 5/9/2012 8:07:09 PM

If they're willing to release it, and the original versions are already available, then what's the harm? It's rather pigheaded to hope something isn't released simply because you don't like it.

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by Anthony at 5/9/2012 7:42:00 PM

Oh gosh, not that garbage revision of MMPR... I hope they don't release that one.

RE: Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Season Sets

Ok, I'm a pigheaded... :-/.

They don't need to release MMPRv2 on DVD. I mean they are releasing MMPR season 1, volume 1 this August and MMPR season 1 to release in the near future. What's the point of release MMPRv2?



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by johnboy3434 at 5/9/2012 8:07:09 PM

If they're willing to release it, and the original versions are already available, then what's the harm? It's rather pigheaded to hope something isn't released simply because you don't like it.

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by Anthony at 5/9/2012 7:42:00 PM

Oh gosh, not that garbage revision of MMPR... I hope they don't release that one.

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