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Mr. Ward since you have released a few shows in tandem with Warner Bros would you ever consider to release any of their Rankin Bass material? They haven't released anything Rankin Bass related in awhile. I would like to see " The Comic Strip " tv series put out one day, it had four great segments that I think would appeal to fans older and new such as Mini Monsters to monster fans, Street Sharks, Karate Kat and Street Frogs to your action cartoon fans.

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There is no way they knew they were going to sell as much as they did before they released the first volume. Retro animated series are hit or miss.  They aren't going to remaster the followup volumes if they didn't remaster the first volume.  Remastering also costs money so less money in their pocket.

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by Zaranyzerak at 1/30/2011 8:28:20 PM

Shipwreck - Actually no, the most likely scenario is as I described above.  The sets obviously sold phenomenally well, look how quickly they put out the remaining volumes.  They knew they had a hit, but the "most likely scenario" is no other mastrrs were available.

RE: Would WB license any Rankin Bass material to Shout!

I guess it's hard to recapture the old magic and still draw in young viewers when a show gets reintroduced like the new Thundercats cartoon. I thought the Thundercats live action movie was a sure fire go but these things happen a lot, get put on hold for years, just look at how long X-men live action took to come out and Voltron live action movie has been talked about coming out the last three years. I wish we'd see more Rankin Bass get released like the remaining Silverhawks, WB could just put it out on their MOD website, same thing with Thundercats animated movie mentioned, it seems the best way to get older cartoons out these days for the studio, that is financially wise.

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I just want a complete uncut version of thundercats Ho the movie!  Why did we get the chopped up edited 5 part version and not the complete full movie version?

For those of you that don't know the film was going to get a limited big-screen release but with films like transformers and gobots bombing at the box-office it ended up like the gijoe movie and never made to theatures. It aired as a 2 hour tv movie then got chopped up into 5 parts for the tv show. Maybe a single disk release would work.

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Shipwreck - Actually no, the most likely scenario is as I described above.  The sets obviously sold phenomenally well, look how quickly they put out the remaining volumes.  They knew they had a hit, but the "most likely scenario" is no other mastrrs were available.

The only reason those BCI sets were made from PAL masters is because the NTSC masters and film prints no longer exist.  We can thank Hallmark for that - htye transferred all the original film prints to PAL video then junked the films.  And as a result, every single episode taken from those masters suffers from "PAL speedup," where the audio is pitched slightly higher than it should be.  The only film prints that still exist for certain are for the 1973 Star Trek cartoon, as those are held by Paramount.  The rest are unknown at this point.  A handful of NTSC masters still existed (such as the 1975 live action Ghostbusters series), and is NTSC masters existed for the rest the most definitely would have used those instead of the PAL masters.  They had no choice.  It was PAL or nothing.


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RE: Thundercats relaunch

Why does every new series have to look like cheap, carbon-copy anime now? Lion-O doesn't look feline at all, he looks like a boy with dumb spiky hair. :(

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by Shipwreck at 1/25/2011 5:19:28 PM

relaunch

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Thundercats relaunch

relaunch

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RE: Would WB license any Rankin Bass material to Shout!

cajunhillbilly Yes RankinBass made a animated tv movie of That Girl with Marlo Thomas, it aired as part of the ABC Superstar Saturday Movie series. It aired in 1973. Unlike most of the Rankin Bass library which is owned either by Classic Media/E.R. or Warner Bros that movie is listed as being owned by Daisy Productions. It's never been released on dvd before but I don't know why it couldn't be paired on one of That Girl season sets which would make complete sense. I wasn't around to see that movie in it's original airing but I have seen the movie a couple years back and though it's not one of the better Rankin Bass creations to me, I think fans of That Girl would enjoy it and it's something I found fun to see at the time none the less.

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Didn't Rankin Bass do an animated tv movie based on That Girl with Marlo Thomas?


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RE: Would WB license any Rankin Bass material to Shout!

A new Thundercats cartoon show is supposed to come out this year on Cartoon Network.  I think the movie idea may have been scrapped for now for this.

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I agree the picture quality was not the best for the Thundercats releases but also as said here a lot better than the VHS tapes, though one can't complain much that  finally we have the whole complete series on Dvd. I don't know why WB price their animation so high, 70 dollars for a half season was a bit much and at this time they still go for that price though if you keep checking once and awhile they do sell for as low as 26 dollars a box set on Amazon.

Once the live action Thundercats movie get released if it does well Warner Bros might consider remastering ThunderCats I think based though like people have said if the 'masters' are in the shape which can allow it. I think they sold a lot of Thundercats dvds and sadly though Rankin Bass did not get the royalities it richly deserved due a accounting clericial error which if you search online you can read about it. WB released Silverhawks due to the high sales of Thundercats since it had some similarities but Silverhawks did not sell nearly as well as hoped. I think the Comic Strip would be a good set to sell on WB's MOD website or a smaller studio could do well with it if it was budget priced.

When I read Hallmark had converted all the NTSC masters of the Filmation library to Pal and destroyed them I was totally shocked! How do destroy something like that such as the He-man 80s series in NTSC masters. Entertainment Rights in the UK brought all the Filmation roster of shows and they made a great move, just the He-man alone was enough I think to cover the cost of aquiring the Filmation library. Whoever made that decision to never release He-man and other cartoons at Hallmark they had in the Filmation library to the North American market was a complete bonehead. At that time it was thought you can't make much selling 80s toons on dvd, boy where they ever wrong! Same thing when Sony didn't release Transformers and GiJoe when they had control, that's what happens when you have suits make all the decisions and not have any fans at your company who can appreciate what you are holding on to.

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There is no way of telling why Thundercats wasn't remastered by Warner Brothers.  The most likely scenario is they weren't sure how it was going to sell, so they didn't want to take a loss by investing too much money into it.  Thundercats ended up selling a lot and I would venture a remastered set now would sell too.  Silverhawks' first release was not successful.  I do not think Silverhawks or Comic Strip would sell.  As far as PAL, all the BCI Filmation releases in the United States were converted from Hallmark's PAL masters.

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Yeah, agreed on the price - I only bought the first set at full price.  Waited for the other 3 to go on sale, got them all for about half price (which should be the regular price, especially by NOW..sheesh!).  On the plus side, I DID manage to get my hands on the versions with the snazzy lenticular covers!  :)


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The thundercats DVD's do look pretty bad I must admit. Also they are very overpriced. I can't believe they charge $70 for half a season. I rent them on netflix instead.


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RE: Would WB license any Rankin Bass material to Shout!

Remastering Thundercats is unlikely unless there are original film elements still in existence.  As it was an 80's show, the only complete masters likely still in existence would be the standard definition broadcast master tapes.  While initially SHOT on film, most shows from that era were edited and mastered on video.  Little could be done to clean them up beyond what we have already seen in the DVD release.  Using the PAL masters for an NTSC release wouldn't work, as you'd lose quality in the reverse standards conversion process.  Nice that the PAL masters were obviously kept in better shape, but that doesn't help a U.S. release.  Would be nice to have remasters of Thundercats, but I highly doubt it will ever happen due to lack of the necessary source material.  If such material existed, I'm sure we would have heard SOMETHING about it by now.

I for one am simply happy we have the complete series on DVD at all.  Looks and sounds fine to me, far better than the old VHS releases.  The only thing I would like to see added is the extended movie version of Exodus with the stereo audio.  I say focus on stuff that hasn't been released yet.  Finish Silverhawks and release The Comic Strip.


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RE: Would WB license any Rankin Bass material to Shout!

remaster Thundercats

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