| 9/12/2007 11:23 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | Oban Star Racers Question | | I know Shout got Oban Star Racers, what will be done about the language on that one? It was a French/Japanese coproduction with 'original' language versions in both French and Japanese, and there is also the English dub on Jetix, all were done to the same footage though, will the DVDs be just English or will we be getting the French and Japanese tracks also? |
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| 9/12/2007 12:55 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Hard to say. With all of the Nelvana and Jetix titles, I've asked about foreign language versions. Here's what you may or may not know... Some foreign language versions are actually longer or shorter than the English versions in terms of shots. Because it's not always possible to fit an entire line of dialogue in Japanese over an English translation (or vice versa), certain shots have to be held a little longer or even cut shorter. Which means, if there are any discrepancies between languages, we'd have to put two versions of the same episode's video on there as well. This obviously takes up twice as much space, making it considerably harder to fit an appropriate number of episodes onto the disc. Like I said, we are looking into it, but can't promise anything at this time.
Brian
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| 9/12/2007 9:26 PM |
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gb_supernova
Member since: 7/27/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Hopefully, dubbing companies would do what they can to make dialog fit, so that they wouldn't have to cut anything. Which would mean that you would only have to worry about getting both audio tracks.
If there is one thing that anime fans are passionate about, it's the editing made to the shows; you will find that for the most part, anime fans are adamantly opposed to editing of any kind.
One question: If you manage to get the foreign tracks, what will you do about subtitles? It is my understanding that getting subtitles has proven to be problematic for Shout! Factory in the past, but correct me if I'm wrong on that. |
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| 9/12/2007 9:38 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | | I missed the show when it was originally on, although I'm aware that the Japanese airring of the show actually had the English track on SAP or something along those lines (all 3 language tracks for the show, English, Japanese, and French, were apparently done concurrently). It'd be interesting to see assuming Shout! gets the materials and the footage matches. |
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| 9/13/2007 8:10 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Keep in mind that there's a distinct difference between subtitles and closed captioning. Closed captioning is embedded and optional viewing. Subtitles are a different kind of file. Obviously, if we include foreign language tracks for the Japanese or French versions, we'd have subtitles. Assuming those are available through Jetix, that is.
Brian
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| 10/3/2007 9:09 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Okay, so I've gotta know... Why hasn't this show caught on in the U.S.? I just finished watching it yesterday and it's definitely as good as anything on Adult Swim. Is it that it airs on Toon Disney? Seriously, this show is amazingly written and produced. The animation is beautiful. It's like watching Miyazaki: The Series!
Thoughts?
Brian
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| 10/3/2007 10:02 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | There's a few reasons for it.
It airs on ToonDisney, which few people generally have, and even fewer watch.
ToonDisney is one of the worst channels when it comes to advertising their own stuff, often new shows won't have any proof of existence on their website, or on the channel itself thru commercials until a week or two before airring..
In general for anime to become popular in the USA it needs to either be on a channel that people actually watch, and it needs DVDs (and often uncut ones, edited DVDs often do very badly, the edited version of CCS only made it halfway thru the series on DVD while the uncut subtitled only no dub release was popular enough that they finished it and rereleased it as a box set a few years later, which is one of the 2 reasons I asked about japanese tracks for Oban and Medabots (I plan on buying both myself regardless, Oban because it looks interesting, and Medabots because I saw it previously and am nostalgic, but I know plenty of people who are waiting on Oban to see if they should just import them from another country and have already written off the Medabots set because there isn't the Japanese option and are waiting to see if Shout will do an uncut subtitled box down the line if the dub sells enough, like Media Blasters does with their 'edited for TV' anime (Voltron/GoLion and Teknoman/Tekkaman Blade). For quite a few shows just missing the Japanese track is enough to kill any popularity, Power Stone was based on a popular series of games during their high point and it being English only caused people to actively avoid it. One Piece being the BEST example of this.)
A bit longer then I thought it'd be, but that's generally the big reason |
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| 10/3/2007 11:30 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | That implies that the Japanese version was the original and, therefore, the only real version to watch or own. The truth is that Oban Star-Racers was a French/Japanese collaboration, but produced by a French company with Japanese consultation and assistance. So anime "snobs" are shooting themselves in the foot with their own inaccurate prejudices.
The fact is that I've watched anime--real anime (where the images within the frame actually move, as opposed to have a camera pan over them for effect)--since the mid-1980s. For the most part, I'm biased against a lot of the contemporary anime that's swept the U.S. (while has gone as mostly a joke in its native land). There have been a few really great exceptions in recent years, like Cowboy Bebop, and I'd defy anyone to tell me this story isn't as good. While the animation is different, it's also certainly as action-packed and riveting as anything I ever saw Spike and the gang do in CB.
Personally, I think it's something we should get the word out about. This is a series that really needs to be over at Adult Swim or the like.
As for shows that Media Blasters releases, it should be noted that Voltron: Defender of the Universe was never a Japanese show. It was an American show that used footage from two Japanese series, GoLion and Dairugger XV, to create their own storyline. So when Media Blasters released GoLion, they weren't releasing the Japanese-language version of Voltron: Defender of the Universe. They were actually releasing GoLion, the Japanese series on which Voltron was based.
Brian
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| 10/3/2007 12:06 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Generally I agree that alot of the 'sweeping' popular stuff around today doesn't compare to the old stuff.
And as far as I'm aware theres more French in Obans origin than Japanese, but it has the 'appearance' of so called 'normal' anime so that's what most people take/accept it as.
I disagree on the 'Voltron was never a japanese show', while much of Voltron (I'm referring to just Lion Force at the moment, since Media Blasters hasn't begun to release Vehicle OR Golion, or Dairugger, they just have the releases planned at the moment) is american, the original source material IS japanese, you can't split it apart because without GoLion, even just footage wise, there is no Voltron, although I do get your point. (Although Voltron was an exception because it became super popular far before the anime fandom of today that generally shun edited dubs.)
Oban really should be somewhere it gets more respect and shows up better, but it had multiple things against it.
Airring on ToonDisney.
Airring on ToonDisney edited
Oban also had the problem of not being consistent, in Japan it had a themesong by Yoko Kanno which people began to expect, in the USA it had a new rock song, in the UK it had a remix of the Yoko Kanno song, and the French version has an 'edited' version of the song to be more French. The inconsistancies had kept some people away because they aren't quite sure if what was airring in the USA was what the director/crew 'meant' them to see.
Oban will be an interesting DVD release because there were so many different hands involved in it's production it'll be interesting to see what materials you guys get for languages and bonus tracks, just from my count there is.
Language wise
English
Japanese (and unlike Medabots and Voltron and other shows, I know this track is synched to the English track because the show in Japan aired with the English track on whatever their equivalent of SAP/alternate language tracks on tv is.)
French (no idea if it synchs, but the few people I know who have seen it seem to love it)
Show Intros
US
UK
Japanese
French
There being so much stuff just seems to confuse people and throw them for a loop on exactly 'what' Oban is, and the fact it got shoved into the tiny corner of ToonDisney probably did 10 times more damage then just the minor confusing of the 'snobs' who just sorta decided to ignore it, while the snobs complain the most, it also got rid of potential people who liked it and would tell others, so it went into obscurity.
I'm hoping the DVD release gets more people to see it so it doesn't stay in that 'who cares' sort of zone (the same thing happened to IGPX despite it airring on Cartoon Network, people just didn't know what to make of it despite it being relatively good)
ps- just to be clear, when I say 'most' or 'others' I really do mean most or others, I'm not using code to say 'me', I plan on getting them however they are. I grew up with Robotech, Voltron, Ronin Warriors, and edited dubs. I prefer uncut be available so I can have both, but a quality 'edited' version is still a quality show, even if it isn't uncut. So many dubs never getting DVDs is one of the most dissapointing things to me, it's why Shout! is one of my favorite companies, shows get released to a level of quality they wouldn't otherwise get, like the Limited version of Freaks and Geeks in the 'yearbook', that's one of the finest sets ever released and I know you guys can't do that for every show, but it's nice to hope for it (although I know alot of it isn't in your guys hands, it the materials you get) |
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| 10/3/2007 4:03 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | I argue that if I took existing footage from all the Star Wars films and re-edited them all together in a complete different way than the original and dubbed voices to create a brand new story, you would not be able to say I'd made a Star Wars film. Or even a new dub of a Star Wars film. I simply used the source footage, but created a new movie. Just as America created a new, unrelated series out of footage taken from series made popular in Japan. But I see your point.
Sadly, as far as language tracks go... It has been absolutely confirmed that the Japanese track is a couple of seconds longer than the English version, due to the edits necessary to dub the voices. We will not be able to fit the Japanese language on the American release. I'll check on the French, though.
And when you say "edited," what do you mean, exactly? I've never watched the episodes being broadcast over on ToonDisney, but I don't see a lot worth editing from the masters I do have. There certainly aren't any holes. None that I can see, anyway.
Thoughts?
Brian
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| 10/3/2007 7:29 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | My understanding is the tv airring on Jetix cut out a little bit from each episode (just enough to add one more commercial or so), people were able to compare it directly because in Japan if you hit their equivalent of SAP, it would actually play the show with the English dub, and the fact that the American airring was shorter definately would suggest that something was edited out (although I suppose the themesong and intro footage may have been the only thing that was shorter), but people at the very least confirmed the legnth of an episode was shorter despite the fact that it aired with a full English track in Japan. (The show aired in France first, then 2 months later in the USA, then a few months later in Japan, for some reason they chose to do dual language in Japan)
Obviously you can only do what you can with what you are given, but SOMEONE out there has masters that match. I'm just pointing out they exist (I do see your point about Star Wars though)
For Oban the French track in my opinion is probably more important than the Japanese (outside of the themesong) because the ideas and junk behind the series are French. |
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| 10/4/2007 9:24 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | It's worth a shot. I'd love to find out what's available from Jetix.
Brian
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| 10/4/2007 9:38 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Jetix UK is an odd company....
They are owned by Disney, but will license their shows out to non Disney companies for american distribution.
Makes you wish alot of those old Fox Kids shows were held by Jetix UK...lol |
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| 10/14/2007 8:44 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Just thought I'd mention I checked around and confirmed the USA airring of Oban was edited compared to the UK and Japanese english airrings (bit of blood, a bit of alcohol, although apparently some alcohol still does show up, and a few cuts for time).
Obviously you can only work with what they give you, just felt like pointing it out. |
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| 10/31/2007 9:59 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Nothing major, though. And it doesn't effect the story at all. I love this series and I think it deserves a bigger audience. Therefore, I'm including the complete pilot episode on the fourth disc of Medabots: The Complete First Season as a bonus sneak peek at the upcoming set.
Maybe we can convert some Medabots fans.
Brian
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| 11/5/2007 3:05 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Although I still love Shout's stuff, I think with Oban I'll have to pass on and have to check foreign releases that have english tracks if there is even any chance of me getting Oban on DVD
Has nothing to do with lack of alternate language tracks (I don't even think you've confirmed the French track one way or the other)
But I just refuse to buy an edited english version of a show when an uncut english version exists.
It's different with Medabots, or Voltron, or Robotech because that is how the dub was made, and like you've said, the show was 'changed' in a manner that made it not an edited version of the Japanese show, but a 'new' show that used the Japanese shows source footage.
But that isn't true of Oban. Even if it's just a few seconds clipped, it matters to me, and I think you'll find it matters to alot of anime fans who take a look at Oban (and despite it being largely French in origin, alot of the potential Oban customers will be anime fans). Oban was kept the way it was when it was dubbed, and was THEN clipped for tv. Loosing those few seconds kills the release for me. It might not be a big deal to some people, to me it's just as important as having all the music in Freaks and Geeks, and I've skipped plenty of releases from companies because they were the syndicated versions. If I'm going to pay, I want it as it was MEANT to be seen.
I know it isn't Shout's fault, you guys have the masters you were given.
I still love your guys releases and will get them whenever possible, but I just can't support Oban as it seems it'll be released.
You asked why Oban didn't catch on, maybe part of that it was an attempt at something special, and clipping anything out of that kills that something special for some people, I know it certainly has for me.
If it's been a mistake and the show is in fact uncut, I'll not only be the first person in line for it, I'll be grabbing people to get them to get it also. |
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| 11/6/2007 4:26 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Having been an old-school anime fan and purist myself, I understand the desire to see things the way it was "meant to be seen." However, we've been working directly with creator Savin Yeatman-Eiffel, who's done nothing but approve of our work--including the masters.
And while I love a COMPLETE version of something, nothing is lost when it comes to the characters or story told in this version of series with the cutting of blood and/or language not allowed on general American television. The story is still as epic and well-told as ever. If there were plotholes created from these cuts or major scenes or elements missing, I'd agree with you. But I wouldn't mind owning this set, despite the lack of the international footage to which you're referring.
Thanks for the candor. Regardless of the fact that I'm producing this set and obviously want people to pick it up, I have to respectfully disagree.
Brian
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| 11/7/2007 1:16 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Could we at the very least find out how much IS cut?
I guess what bothers me more than anything else is just not knowing.
It didn't bother me getting 'cut' or altered Mario episodes because I know at some point down the line we aren't gonna get it with original music or things that were removed, thats how it is.
It just specifically bugs me in this case because there seems to be SOME amount of stuff missing. It's a conundrum because I do not very much like the thought of not picking up a Shout set for a show that is awesome, or even a Shout set for a show that isn't that good. |
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| 11/7/2007 10:13 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | I'm looking into it with the creators of the show now.
Brian
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| 11/7/2007 2:16 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | | I appreciate it Brian, Shout stuff ranks at the very top of my collection, and I really DO want to get the disks, I just can't not knowing what is missing. |
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| 11/28/2007 5:54 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Savin Yeatman-Eiffel, the creator of Oban Star-Racers, and I have been emailing one another back and forth for the past week or so. According to him, very little was actually trimmed for U.S. broadcast; mostly lines of dialogue. However, in a stroke of good fortune, it looks like Shout! Factory has acquired...wait for it...wait for it...the international masters which, obviously, contain the UNCUT episodes. Savin is confirming, even as I type this.
I'll have updates for you all, as soon as I know anything.
Brian
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| 11/29/2007 12:41 AM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | That is completely awesome Brian.
I do apologize if I had sounded rude before though, or like I was hassling you.
Regardless, even if you guys aren't able to do the uncut episodes (since like you said it wasn't confirmed yet), the attempt has guarenteed a sale for every Oban DVD from me.
Does this mean there might be a chance for the Japanese and French tracks also? |
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| 12/25/2007 6:09 AM |
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ANDARIAL
Member since: 12/25/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Quick question(sorry for thread hijacking)which op and end soundtrack will you be using on the US dvd release?
I ask as in the UK we have that french ??op i think it is and i purchcased the UK box set not realising this :(
i originally watched the jetix rip that has been P2P about and loved it
if your version will have the `jetix` `rock` theme i will definately purchase a set when it is released and ebay my UK version
cheers
and Merry Christmas to one and all
ANDARIAL
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| 1/2/2008 10:08 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Andarial,
We're currently trying to obtain the American "rock" version of the opening titles, since that's the one most fans over here will know, but it requires licensing the song. If the expense is too high, I'm afraid we won't be able to include it. As of now, we have what I've found on YouTube as the "Dutch" version, a well-done remix of the original Japanese/English song. I'm a big fan of this one, myself.
Still working on it, though.
Brian
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| 1/6/2008 2:51 AM |
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ANDARIAL
Member since: 12/25/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Thanks for the reply Brian.Will be keeping an eye on this thread for more news Really hope you get the licence for the Rock track it just `made` the series for me |
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| 1/8/2008 6:28 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | I like that OP for the series.
If other countries OPs for the series don't require song licensing might those be included as extras Brian?
And any potential news on Japanese or French audio tracks? (also, on that note, do you know if the English one will be 2.0 or 5.1?) |
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| 1/9/2008 11:00 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Unfortunately, any song would require licensing.
Savin and I are actually working on a number of great things for this series. As we're coming dangerously close to our deadline, I'm hoping it all pans out. If not for volume one, we'll at least still have volume two.
I can tell you this much...
We are including the original, uncut episodes as soon in Europe. We are also trying to get the 5.1 audio mix. If we're able to use this mix, we'll have to leave off the 2.0 track, as it's all just way too much to include on two discs with 13 episodes. There's simply not enough room.
Stay tuned. I'll have more updates for you shortly.
Brian
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| 1/19/2008 12:25 PM |
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Le_Magi-chat
Member since: 1/19/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Bon jour, "Monsieur (sp?) Ward".
I was reading an article about this on TVShowsonDVD, and it mentioned that you are including the original opening (A Chance to Shine) because of licensing difficulties with the U.S. created one (Never Say Never).
In a previous post, you said that you were trying to acquire the U.S. opening because it was your impression that that one was the one American viewers are familiar with. I would like to state for the record that, with all due respect to you and your company, I think it is a rather shallow reason (to use the original opening, I mean), and also that I would not buy this DVD if:
1. The U.S. theme was used for the episodes. and/or:
2. The original Japanese opening only appeared as a lousy bonus feature.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I prefer that "A Chance to Shine" be used as the opening because to do otherwise would be to simply release the version that aired on Toon Disney's Jetix, and to do that would be to waste all the potential this show has for a DVD release that represents the high quality, and "ambience" of this show. Thus, I am glad that S!F will be using the original opening rather than the U.S. created one. The truth is, I was actually quite disappointed that the Toon Disney broadcast used the generic rock song that U.S. viewers got.
As for languages, I don't terribly mind that the DVD will be English only, though I would have liked it if it at least also had the French version. Speaking of which, I would like to point out the French version is the original version. Technically the show is an "anime", but it was both written and produced in French first. |
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| 1/21/2008 2:07 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | the animeondvd forums already has people railing against the set for lack of other language tracks.
I'm still suprised so few people are aware Medabots even exists on DVD |
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| 1/21/2008 3:10 PM |
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Le_Magi-chat
Member since: 1/19/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | I'm aware of the Medabots set... :)
Anyway, unlike most anime DVDs. the available language tracks for Oban is only a secondary concern (in my opinion, anyway). The show is good enough to stand on its own even in English. However, I am open to the idea of holding out for (again) at least the French version to be included, but as I also said, I don't mind that it's English only. In any case, as long as it uses the original Japanese (or Japanese/French) opening in it's "TV size" (about 1:30) form, I'll gladly buy this DVD set. |
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| 1/25/2008 2:31 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Well, for starters, we attempted to acquire the U.S. version of the song, because "that song has fans too in the US and they'll expect to hear it on the DVD." That's a direct quote from one of my first emails from Savin. Therefore, it has absolutely nothing to do with how "shallow" our reasons were. When the creator asks, we do everything we can to accommodate; plain and simple. However, we were unable to acquire the U.S. version of the song from ToonDisney, so we've decided to move ahead without it.
And the folks on the forums can complain all they want about the lack of languages. The unfortunate nature of the beast is that it is physically impossible to fit multiple language tracks onto these DVDs. And including additional discs into the set just to throw on a French language version is a fairly outrageous demand, given that we'd actually have to make both volumes 4-disc sets. Each disc costs us thousands of dollars to design and author, not to mention replicate at the plant, and we're not expecting to make much--if anything--off of these sets, due to its limited exposure and fan base in the U.S.
The truth is, I'm producing these DVDs not because we're expecting to make a huge profit, but more as a labor of love. I respect Savin tremendously. It's been an honor and a joy to work on these discs. I think this series deserves to be seen. Hopefully, these DVDs will get the attention the series deserves.
As for what we are including...
The first volume will include an original trailer for the series, several animated racer profiles, a preview of the second volume, original concept art, the UNCUT episodes with their original 5.1 surround sound audio mix (never before heard in the U.S.), and--the real treat--a 30-minute making-of documentary previously released on the French DVD. Not bad for a two-disc set, no?
Brian
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| 1/25/2008 5:03 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | | I don't disagree Brian. |
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| 1/26/2008 11:26 PM |
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Netbug009
Member since: 12/25/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | UNCUT! YESSSSS!
Oh, BTW, I personally have no problem with the original song instead of never say never. Actually, i think it's cool. :D |
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| 2/11/2008 3:37 AM |
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Le_Magi-chat
Member since: 1/19/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Brian, you said that you "decided to move ahead without" the U.S. theme song. Can I assume that this also applies to volume 2 as well? |
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| 2/15/2008 3:51 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | The U.S. theme songs will not make an appearance on Volume Two.
We are, however, working on trying to acquire the complete original 1:30 version of the opening title sequence. Fingers crossed.
Brian
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| 2/17/2008 4:55 PM |
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Norse
Member since: 2/17/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Hey, I must say that you're a great guy working for a great company and that I greatly enjoy my Medabots DVDs (aside from those three missing episodes, what was with that?). Do you know if you'll be including any of the special features from the French DVDs on the English release of OSR? Like the stuff Sav! The World has listed on their Oban Fan Shop site:
Extras features :
- Making Of Part 1 (30min)
- Opening (long version)
- Production galleries
- Mipcom Promo Movie (15min)
- Characters informations
- Racers informations
- DVDRom features (wallpapers, screensavers, drawings ...) |
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| 4/24/2008 1:13 PM |
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Le_Magi-chat
Member since: 1/19/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | Well, I just got the DVD, and I have a couple of questions.
1. I'm grateful that the Japanese OP was indeed included, but I noticed that it was 1:00 version seen in the UK broadcast. Why does it have this version of the theme?
2. The "Star Racer Profiles" weren't really "profiles" per se, at least not the way I think of "profile" features. They were actually commercials for the U.K. broadcast of the show. Also the so-called "Original Concept Art" actually was not concept art at all. They were just storyboards from various episodes. What's up with that? |
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| 4/24/2008 9:46 PM |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | If you looked 2 posts up, you'd see Brian said they were looking into getting the 1:30 version to put on set 2.
Profiles are profiles, just cause they aren't the way you think of 'profiles' doesn't mean they werent.
Storyboards ARE concept art. |
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| 4/25/2008 10:04 AM |
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Le_Magi-chat
Member since: 1/19/2008 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | He never said anything about a specific volume, so I assumed he meant both.
"Profiles are profiles"? Not if they're just commercials that you see on TV.
"Storyboards ARE concept art"? I respectfully disagree. Concept art includes things like preliminary character designs and layouts, and stuff like that. If the feature was listed as "storyboards", that would be different. Thus, I personally felt that this feature was misrepresentative. |
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bammybam
Member since: 9/12/2007 | | RE: Oban Star Racers Question | He had been talking about volume 2, and was responding to a question about volume 2.
They are commercials that talk about the characters, so they are profiles.
Concept Art is preproduction art that helps guide towards the final product. That is exactly what storyboards are. |
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