| 8/18/2007 6:21 PM |
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helgasboy
 Member since: 7/5/2007 | | Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | I think Dic lied saying they were the original Master Tapes from NBC I found out they are not. I found old videos in my closet with all the Mario 3 episodes on them fromthe original airing on NBC with the original music. I also found out the music in Captain N and the Mario Series were altered when they were running in syncication on other channels Later On in the early 90s Plus I remember watching them repeat on Saturday still the original music intact. Original NBC Masters Yeah Right DIC! |
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| 8/18/2007 7:55 PM |
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helgasboy
 Member since: 7/5/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | I meant to say the mid 90s not the early. |
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| 8/19/2007 9:34 PM |
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gb_supernova
 Member since: 7/27/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | Are we talking about the Shout! Factory set here? I know that they (S!F) couldn't get the original versions, due to the cost of licensing some of the music in the show. If Dic said that the set was based on the original masters when they weren't, then that would obviously be quite dishonest of them to say. |
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| 8/20/2007 4:18 AM |
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trustkill01
 Member since: 4/9/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | This is just a passing thought, but why would DIC purposely send Shout Factory a set of crappy tapes, what would DIC solve by doing that? Its not like they wold be saving any money, i mean the tapes masters or otherwise are just sitting over there in their vault collecting dust, didnt B Ward say back when all those people were creating that fuss about the Mario 3 glitch, didnt he say that DIC said they had sent him the only copy they had.....film can degrad over time when not stored properly. Also, I dont know about other people but i knew back in Dec. that some of the org music was going to be taken/replaced in Captain N, because it was on wikipedia, although anyone can change anything on wikipedia, the point was it was stated back in Dec. On the Dungeons and Dragons dvd set that BCI put out, on the most famous episode "the dragons gravyard" i read a whole music score on it was changed, and who knows why, could have had something to so with permissions and copyrights, same with captain N/ Super mario 3. I own the dungeons and dragons dvd set, and never saw and because i was 3 years old when it was aired in 84-85' i didnt see it until a few years later when it was in syndication, so i wouldnt know what the orb music sounded like on that episode, the point is who knows why the music was changed in the mid 90's when super mario bros 3 and captain N were aired again, they could have done away with the org copy after they made the copy with the new music on it, and thats all they had, but there is no reason that DIC would hold back a copy of the master, whats the point, there is no finicial gain or loss from something like that. |
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| 8/20/2007 6:38 AM |
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Spelunker88
 Member since: 1/20/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | I know about the replacement music on Captain N since I have a tape with the original music on it, it's mainly Shakedown or Danger Zone that's used in that series.
As for Super Mario Bros. 3, the original music masters are still at DiC as they used it for the UAV and the Disky releases (well except Kootie Pie Rocks, all versions have the ending cut out). I think DiC keeps the masters for preservation, just in case they get mouldy or worn out unless something got changed within two years. However one of the known episodes with the original music is destroyed for Super Mario Bros. Super Show (2 Plumbers and a Baby).
Besides if DiC's copy is the only one that Shout has (personally think it's from NBC like Captain N), it's the only one that can be used. |
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| 8/20/2007 9:39 AM |
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B Ward
 Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | "Original broadcast masters" is a term used in the industry, but does not literally mean THE original broadcast tapes. Those masters no longer exist. These were digibeta dubs made from the original syndicated masters. And what we received from DiC were what they had in their vaults. There's no conspiracy here.
Brian
"Know Thyself" --Thales |
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| 8/20/2007 11:07 PM |
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helgasboy
 Member since: 7/5/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | I know theres no way to get the original tapes kind of like sony with Married with Children doesn't even have the Original theme song but it is very close to the original.the Problems With Captain N and Mario Super Show is The Music. Megamove is used in the whole first season of Captain N every episode an instrumental Version of this song.This song would have been perfect for Kootie Pie rocks if it included the lyrics since Milli Vanillis Mouths were moving. Another song is It's a Dogs Life Especially the episodes the Bird the Bird and Red Baron Koopa . Why didn't they just make Danger Zone and all the other songs Instrumentals? It's rather dumb Hearing dogs barking in a song when there aren't any in sight. My Karubi is another overused song almost every episode. My friend got tired of it and turned it in for credit for another DVD Set. The Quality of the episodes are good it's the overused songs. they should of used Songs from Mario world Instead of It's A Dogs Life repeatedly over and Over again. DIC was too cheap to put better music in these episodes. other than that they are fun to watch I just mute it when the songs come on. I also have The Rare Captain N Episode Quest for the Potion Of Power alternate Music and Hows Bayou I'm glad I kept some of my older episodes since all the music in the Super show and First season of Captain N was Changed. |
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| 8/21/2007 11:05 AM |
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B Ward
 Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | I agree that there are times when it seems like someone wasn't paying attention when choosing songs to replace. That said, why was it really necessary to use pop songs that would eventually need to be replaced in the first place?? Did "Danger Zone" really belong in an episode of an animated series? Probably not. But thems are the breaks. All I can do is monitor the creation of the DVD and, hopefully, I've put them together well enough that people can get beyond the constant use of songs like "It's a Dog's Life."
Brian
"Know Thyself"
--Thales |
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| 8/22/2007 12:31 PM |
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mistermarioman
 Member since: 8/22/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | HERES A QUESTION? HOW ABOUT WE CONCENTRATE ON ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING! I RECENTLY BOUGHT A 3 DVD SET IM SURE YOU ALL ARE ALL TOO FAMILIAR WITH! THATS RIGHT..."THE ADVENTURES OF SUPER MARIO BROS. 3". TOWARDS THE LAST COUPLE OF EPISODES IT WAS GLITCHING EVERY OTHER MINUTE OR SO! BUT [shiite]! I HAD JUST PAID GOOD MONEY AND I DIDNT GET WHAT I PAID FOR! SOON AFTER I FIND OUT THAT THAT IS HOW THEY SELL THEM! THEY ARE ADVERTISING THE DVD'S EVEN RIGHT HERE ON THIS SITE! AND SURELY BY NOW THEY KNOW THE DVD'S ARE FLAT OUT DEFECTIVE! BUT DO THEY SAY ANYTHING? OF COURSE NOT! THEY WOULD NEVER EVER EVER EVER MAKE ANY MONEY THAT WAY, WOULD THEY? NOPE! SOON AFTER I READ ABOUT THE "FIASCO" THAT IS "QUEEN OF THE APES" ON THE "CAPTAIN N" DVD SET, WHERE APPARENTLY MORE THAN 2 MINUTES OF FOOTAGE HAS BEEN REPORTED "MISSING"? REALLY? WHERE THE f*@k IS THE MONEY THE PEOPLE HAVE SPENT ON "CAPTAIN N" DVD SETS? IS THAT MONEY MISSING TOO? NOPE! ITS IN THE SHOUT! FACTORY PEOPLES' POCKETS! AND IN ALL THE POCKETS OF THE ASSHOLES (STORES AND VENDERS) THAT DONT CARE TO INSPECT THE MERCHANDISE THEY SELL TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THEIR CONSUMERS! SO WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN? I CANT GET MY MONEY BACK! I REALIZED THE GLITCHES WAY TOO f*@kING LATE! SO WHAT DO YOU GUYS USUALLY DO WHEN THIS HAPPENS?? SO SHOUT! FACTORY IS NOT GOING TO REPLACE DISCS YOU SAY? WOW! NO [shiite] SHERLOCKS OF THE NERD WORLD! IT WOULDNT BE CONVENIANT FOR THEM! THEY WOULD LOSE CASH SILLY GOOSES! SO HERES THE QUESTION? WHAT CAN ONE DO? HMMM? |
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| 8/22/2007 12:53 PM |
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Manny
 Member since: 7/4/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | Well to be honest you can post it on ebay and sell it. I know excatly what you mean about the money and the DVD Disc with the GLITCH I was very upset with that has well I'm sure alot of people are but Shout can't do anything about it thats the sad part we even spoke to other people who had those Episodes on VHS We had a pretty good Idea that maybe If we send Shout a VHS Version of the episodes in excellent condition we were thinking maybe they can transffer it to DVD but Brain W said he couldn't do that so I was disgusted by that but I believe even till this day that It can be done with all the technology out there today but I also couldn't get my money back so what I did was kept It, But Brain said that DIC did not take care of their Masters. Lets just hope that when they release the Capt N and The New Super Mario World there will not be any glitches at all and no footage missing!!!!!!!!!!!.
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| 8/22/2007 12:58 PM |
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B Ward
 Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | Wow. There's little I love more than a post done in all (or mostly all) caps.
For starters, your reaction is understandable, but a little overblown. There are a few inaccuracies in your post...
First, we did create replacements for the error on Captain N: The Game Master because our DVD authoring house apparently made a mistake when creating the master DLTs. Those replacements are still available by request through the Shout! info email address. In addition, the box sets that were sent out to stores after the replacement discs were made, also contained the replacements.
Second, there cannot be a replacement disc made for Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3. This has been discussed at great length both on these forums and others on the internet. The "glitches," which is an exaggeration to say happen every few seconds, are not mistakes made by Shout! Factory. They, in fact, exist in the broadcast masters provided to us by DiC Entertainment, which are the ONLY broadcast masters still in existence. Therefore, we had two options: we could include the episode--glitches and all--to give fans the complete series or we could leave the last episode of the series off the set entirely. Neither option is preferred and both options will make some people unhappy. But to maintain the integrity of all involved and the show itself, I personally chose to keep the episode as is.
Shout! Factory has no problem replacing discs that are defective, but in the case of Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3, there is no fixable defect.
For those worried, I have been assured by the set's producer--who's gone through the discs with a fine-toothed comb-- that there are NO glitches or missing footage in the upcoming Captain N & The New Super Mario World sets. You can now finish off your Captain N and Super Mario Bros. collections.
Brian
"Know Thyself" --Thales |
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| 8/22/2007 2:30 PM |
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helgasboy
 Member since: 7/5/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | I had a Feeling Captain N season 3 and Mario world had no Glitches cause it wasn't played as much as Mario 3. Family, NBC and other Channels have played these episodes alot. WB had it and It was called The World of Captain N and Super Mario Bros. This version really sucked! When they had Zelda on friday The first episode The Ringerwas really sped up They skipped the part out with Link looking at Zelda and they also cut out the whole Fight with The Moblins! in other words they majorly Butchered it to death! I'm glad these Great cartoons found a home at Shout Factory On DVD I hate to see them destroyed like this! |
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| 8/23/2007 8:25 AM |
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trustkill01
 Member since: 4/9/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | | B Ward is exactly right.....those quote on quote "glitches" in that episode are very VERY minor, i mean the whole thing barely even skips a beat and after it was noticed a lot of people were trying to form an online lynch mob toward Shout factory, yeah your right B Ward his response was completely overblown, the Captain N thing with 2 minutes missing i understood that i wanted that replacement disc, I also believe you should get what you pay for , but when it comes down to something that minor, very minor, that Shout couldnt help, people should be less anally retentive. |
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| 8/25/2007 9:44 AM |
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snake06
 Member since: 6/13/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | Well, how about a digital copy of those episodes.
A friend of mine got me a copy of them back in 2004, he moved to the UK and it is airing their on POP tv channel.
I have a legal copy of the Super Mario 3 episodes now, since their official release.
But I still have those episodes I got from 2004 back when the chances of it ever seeing a official release were slim to none.
They are all great quality and the only thing that needs removing is the POP symbol in the corner.
Then they could replace the glitched discs for people like Johnny.
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| 8/27/2007 7:21 AM |
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trustkill01
 Member since: 4/9/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | This is just my opinion, but why would someone go to the extent and sell their copy of it because of 1 or 2 very, very minor skips in an episode? For whatever reason Shout cant use a vhs, digital, or w/e type of copy of that episode to make a replacement disc, get over it. I mean and this is just my opinion as well, but super mario bros 3 cartoon is not even really a good cartoon, in comparison to a lot of other cartoons, i mean its better than SMBSS, i watched them when i was 8-9 years old, maybe some of you consider it some kind of childhood treasure, but not me, i mean i own SMBSS, Super mario 3, and will buy super mario world/captain N season 3, their retro yes but not the best cartoons by far. But the way some of the people acted on here when the glitch news came out was like it was so devastating to have a couple of extremely minor skips in an episode that they couldnt sleep at night cause they couldnt get a replacement disc. There were a few skips in an episode of the new adventures of he-man dvd that BCI put out, some people complained about it(not on a Shout forum), but there was nothing that could be done about it, and they let it go, its not like footage is missing or something like in Captain N , if there was footage missing you'd have an arguement, but to kick up that much stink about something that minor concerning a show that was mediocre although retro, is just being too anally retentive.
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by Manny at 8/22/2007 12:53:44 PM
Well to be honest you can post it on ebay and sell it. I know excatly what you mean about the money and the DVD Disc with the GLITCH I was very upset with that has well I'm sure alot of people are but Shout can't do anything about it thats the sad part we even spoke to other people who had those Episodes on VHS We had a pretty good Idea that maybe If we send Shout a VHS Version of the episodes in excellent condition we were thinking maybe they can transffer it to DVD but Brain W said he couldn't do that so I was disgusted by that but I believe even till this day that It can be done with all the technology out there today but I also couldn't get my money back so what I did was kept It, But Brain said that DIC did not take care of their Masters. Lets just hope that when they release the Capt N and The New Super Mario World there will not be any glitches at all and no footage missing!!!!!!!!!!!.
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| 9/30/2007 8:20 AM |
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snake06
 Member since: 6/13/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | Does it look like I care about the glitches.
Not really,
but for some people it is a big deal.
So I was only offering an alternative.
Christ, grow up. |
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| 9/30/2007 11:12 AM |
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trustkill01
 Member since: 4/9/2007 | | RE: Super Mario 3 Not the original Masters | Snake06, just because I posted something a month ago that just happened to be below your last post doesnt mean it was in reference to what you said does it? For your info i was responding to the person that said they wanted to sell their copy of the dvd cause it had a half second glitch on it. Furthermore, I even quoted who i was refering to in my response. Learn to read, its a useful skill.
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by snake06 at 9/30/2007 8:20:51 AM
Does it look like I care about the glitches.
Not really,
but for some people it is a big deal.
So I was only offering an alternative.
Christ, grow up. |
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