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7/18/2007 5:20 AM
trustkill01
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Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
B Ward, have you ever tried looking into doing a dvd set of Cow boys of moo mesa? its a DIC property, and its only 26 episodes so it could be fit into one 4-disc boxset, and the 4 different "cowboys" could be on each one of the discs, this one of the toons i remeber as a kid cause i was 11 roughly when this came out back in fall of 1992, soes anyone else remember seeing it as a kid??would anyone buy it if prodiced? It was a unique show, i would like to see it made cause after super mario world dvd comes out, with the expection of MASK which wont happen(i have a complete bootleg set of mask) the only other DIC show i would want is Hey Vern, It's Ernest.
7/18/2007 5:26 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Well actually I forgot (how could i forget about this one, haha) out of all those I would want G.I. Joe dvd set produced, at least the DIC series but I think the rights are up in the air on GI Joe.
7/18/2007 8:37 PM
JustinG.
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
So is Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa a possibility?
7/26/2007 10:50 PM
Wizard55
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I'm curious to. I remember watching the show once in a while on Toon Disney. It has that catchy theme song. ^_^
7/27/2007 3:08 AM
helgasboy
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I really Don't know about that show Cowboys of moo mesa It's not very popular at all  TV.com doesn't even have it in they're listings. Brian wants to put out something that is sure to sell not gather dust on the shelves.

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7/30/2007 1:24 PM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa

Shout and other companies have put out toon series that werent that "popular" or well rembered, but a lot of people on this forum i believe judging by some of the people that posted on my "what age are you from" post, are  in their late teens, I'm 25, so i was about 11 when it came out, but yeah judging by alot of people on this forum, no offense at all, but yeah they probally wouldnt buy it, cause they were 1 or 2 years old, but then again maybe they would, because they apparently bought all the marios, and that means they were either not born yet, or 1-2 years old when they came out, which means if they ever saw it it was years later on re-run or not at all, I have read on here people of that age saying they had never seen some of the mario toons before buying the dvds, true mario has a mass appeal, but still. I mean hey it could sell well, there could be people my age or a little younger who would remeber it and want to buy it, cause they remebered it as a kid. Same thing goes for Sonic toons, yeah they have a wider appeal to people of a certain age than something like Moo Mesa, but i mean AOSTH, no offense to fans on here that grew up with it, but in my own opinion i cannot stand AOSTH, i mean I had never seen SatAM  but i bought the dvd out of curiosty and it was good, it wasnt corny, it at least was serious and dark, but i watched an episode of AOSTH on YouTube months ago,and I had trouble sitting through the whole episode it was that cheesy and corny, but hey whatever floats your boat. People suggest to Brian on here toons that i have never heard of. Although DIC made or produced 80's toons like MASK, the DIC GI JOE series, the real ghostbusters, the rights are just owned by others, if Shout could get the rights to them they would make some money off those. I'm from the school of 80's toons where a lot of them were "serious" toons with some humor dispersed throughout, like the aforementioned , and like COPS, D&D, Thundercats, Silverhawks, Ducktales wasnt a serious cartoon but it is very classic. Anyway i was just bored and had time to kill.

7/30/2007 4:25 PM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa

It's just in my opinion and I try not to bias myself because I grew up in the 80's, but toons in the 80's were "tougher," more realistic if you will, that toons since the mid 90's or so to the present are just campy, corny, and more cheesy than a box of Velveta shells and cheese. There's talk on the net that movies for live action Thundercats and He-man are being considered to be made, and they did Transformers movie. No one yet has made a movie about any 90's toons have they?

8/1/2007 8:30 AM
Spelunker88
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa

I actually agree with you about cartoons of today, speaking of which I actually haven't heard of this show in a LONG time. Last time it was aired was the mid-90s, but there is a Konami arcade game of it so maybe it just needs awareness that's all.

Besides I don't really know if DiC actually owns the show.

8/1/2007 9:00 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Yeah DIC produced it, its still listed on DIC's website as a property......I mean other cartoons produced by DIC or whatever that the propties were owned by other companies like The Real Ghostbusters which was made by DIC but owned by Columbia Tri-Star, and MASK which was made by DIC but owned by Hasbro, and the DIC GI Joe series who knows owns the rights the that.
8/1/2007 9:02 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Those DIC toons like the real ghostbusters, mask, and gi joe arent listed on DIC's website, but wild west c.o.w. boys of moo mesa is.
8/15/2007 6:39 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Wild west c.o.w. boys of moo mesa is on tv.com, I checked
8/15/2007 6:40 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Wild West C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa is on   TV.com, I checked

----- Original Post -----
by helgasboy at 7/27/2007 3:08:58 AM

I really Don't know about that show Cowboys of moo mesa It's not very popular at all  TV.com doesn't even have it in they're listings. Brian wants to put out something that is sure to sell not gather dust on the shelves.

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8/15/2007 10:44 AM
B Ward
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I've thought about C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa, but I just don't think it's a show I can get behind.  I think back on the success-- or lack thereof-- with shows that were even more popular (C.O.P.S., for instance) and have a really hard time seeing a boxed set for cartoons based on cattle as cowboys selling. 

Was it really popular enough?  Would a bare minimum of 15,000 people buy a copy?  If not, we'd simply have to pass on the idea.

Brian

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8/20/2007 11:16 PM
helgasboy
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I'm not really interested it sounds rather dumb But Sam and Max I'd Buy!
8/21/2007 5:21 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa

When I say this no one take it as I am being offensive, think of it as heathly criticizism. I will admit wild west C.O.W. boys of moo mesa wasnt the holy grail of cartoons, but it wasnt cheesy either, there are other people on this post that have expressed intrest in it being produced, and I know everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, just like I am, there is no right or wrong, I have expressed on these forums in some places for example that I cannot stand AoSTH(not SatAM, thats ok), because I think its campy and corny, along with a lot of other mid to late 90's toons, cause i was born in '81 and personally feel that cartoons in general went downhill after about 1994 or so, maybe even earlier, buts thats just me, other people who grew up in that time period could feel completely different. I'll provide an example of that too, he feels that cow boys of moo mesa sounds dumb, without ever seeing any clips of it, but he has also posted many posts on cartoons that he would like to see come to dvd, such as chip and peppers cartoon madness, which ran what 9 episodes?, Stone Protectors, Stunt Dawgs , Street Sharks, Fighting Foodons which was aired in the 2000's, Biker Mice from Mars, Ring Raiders which lasted 5 episodes, most of the cartoons in that list have anthropomorphism in them just like cow boys of moo mesa, some of those toons i knew what they were not from watching them as a kid, but most of them i watched some clips on YouTube and none of those toons I would touch with a ten foot pole.



----- Original Post -----
by helgasboy at 8/20/2007 11:16:20 PM

I'm not really interested it sounds rather dumb But Sam and Max I'd Buy!
8/21/2007 5:50 AM
helgasboy
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
For your info I did see episodes when it was on. I really didn't care for it I'd rather Have Skeleton Warriors or Conan The Adventurer On DVD Than That show.. Besides Paramount owns the rights to it as it explains here Paramount Home Entertainment releases CBS-owned programs and currently owns the video rights to Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa dvd compilations. this is from the wikipedia site. Biker Mice from Mars on the Other hand isn't owned by anyone..
8/21/2007 6:21 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Then I apologize for my presumptions, it sounded as if you had never seen it before, the point I make is that if cow boys of moo mesa is to be considered a crappy show that wouldnt sell good,  there are other toons that can be considered "crap" toons that other people would like, despite the fact of a shows success or failure
8/21/2007 11:25 AM
B Ward
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I'd love to personally release every show on DVD so that every fan could own their faves.  Sadly, if a show can't sell a bare minimum of 15,000 within the set's first year of release, we're gonna lose some serious money.  I just don't know if this one's got the fan base.

Prove me wrong, guys.  If you wanna see it, show me that 15,000+ will buy it and I'll do everything I can to get that set out.

Brian

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8/21/2007 12:17 PM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Yeah I would like to see this released on dvd, cause i would by it, and i admit it probally doesnt have the fan base just like a lot of other toons that were fairly short lived, on a comparison of my favorite toons being released on dvd, cow boys of moo mesa would not even be in the top 10, cause there is very few 90's toons i care if they are released or not, but having watched it back in 1992, it had its charm, and it was  made by DIC so i suggested it.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 8/21/2007 11:25:53 AM

I'd love to personally release every show on DVD so that every fan could own their faves.  Sadly, if a show can't sell a bare minimum of 15,000 within the set's first year of release, we're gonna lose some serious money.  I just don't know if this one's got the fan base.

Prove me wrong, guys.  If you wanna see it, show me that 15,000+ will buy it and I'll do everything I can to get that set out.

Brian

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9/28/2007 4:34 PM
vprman123
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I am a big fan of Cowboys of Moo Mesa. I even have all the action figures mip boxed up somewhere. I can tell you that the VHS copies of it sold extremely well on Ebay for a long time. It also has one of the catchiest cartoon theme songs ever. Also alot of people have checked out the theme song on Youtube 15,000 +
9/28/2007 8:07 PM
PC2
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Hmm, I certainly remember that show from back in the day. Found myself enjoying it quite a bit. Sadly, though, I really don't think the series has much of a fanbase. The series was pretty obscure compared to the others of its time, and I've seen very few people ever even mention it on animation boards.
9/29/2007 11:28 AM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
If i am not mistaken B Ward has said on other posts that Shout didnt have to worry so much about how sales did on dvd releases like Captain N, SatAM, Zelda, etc, because they were single release sets, meaning no multi-volume sets, only about 26 episodes on 4-discs, and since they get their money from the stores that buy them to sell to the consumer, in a sense the retail stores probally get more screwed if a dvd doesnt sell well. With cow boys of moo mesa, i dont see if they are getting that many hits on YouTube, and at least some people are talking about it, why it couldnt be considered for dvd.....yeah the fan base may be small.....but Shout has put out numerous "vol. 1's" of shows like COPS, Carmen Sandiego, AoSTH(i know why that didnt sell well), etc,  ok true AoSTH vol 1 hasnt been said that it wont have a vol 2 release, but since sales have been poor so far....highly unlikey its going to pick up, not likely at all. I guess the way i look at it is, if your going to release a peice of crap toon like AoSTH (no offense to Shout), i'm just saying if they can release that, why couldnt they release something that was better than that. Cow boys of moo mesa was only 26 episodes, it couldnt easily fit on 4-discs like the other Shout releases
11/9/2007 9:45 PM
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
Hello Brian,

I've never seen this show however I would buy it, why? Because I'm a big fan of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and the C.O.W. Boys have had crossovers in the comics and cameos on the cartoon. With this show you would see a lot of the turtle fanbase checking it out, that has to count for something. Turtles DVD sell pretty well as we've gotten the 2k3 series basically twice while the original series is also selling well.

Releasing it earlier this year would have been the best idea to capitalize with the new TMNT movie, too bad to cash in on the movie is a bit too late, and a sequel won't come out for a while. But yeah asking about it on a TMNT website i am sure you'd get a good response from them.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 8/15/2007 10:44:03 AM

I've thought about C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa, but I just don't think it's a show I can get behind.  I think back on the success-- or lack thereof-- with shows that were even more popular (C.O.P.S., for instance) and have a really hard time seeing a boxed set for cartoons based on cattle as cowboys selling. 

Was it really popular enough?  Would a bare minimum of 15,000 people buy a copy?  If not, we'd simply have to pass on the idea.

Brian

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12/3/2007 6:23 PM
roseangelo
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I am also a TMNT fan who would like to see the COW Boys on DVD.  Surely it couldn't be that hard or even that risky?  I believe you can fit the 26 episodes on two duel-layer DVDs, and you can fit two DVDs in a regular DVD case, so you don't even need to go and create custom/specialized packaging.

Also, have you looked at the cast list for the series?  Sally Struthers, Joe Piscopo, Robby Benson - Tim Freakin' Curry!  Not to mention A-list names from the world of voice acting.  People have already mentioned the number of views the show has on YouTube, not to mention all of the positive comments left with each one.  Surely that counts for something.  This may not be a series people would go out of their way to request, but once they found it, it would sell SO fast.

If you produce the minimum you need to produce - 15,000 or whatever - I don't see how you can go wrong.  I envision the set going out of print and prices skyrocketing on eBay.  And once that happens, anything left in stores will be bought-up quick.  Then, since the entire series is already released, you can just wipe your hands clean of the whole thing and be done with the cowboy cows who ride horses (which, really, isn't a whole lot more ridiculous that turtles who are ninjas - Or a rabbit who fights toads in space, but I still went and imported the series set of Bucky O'Hare from the UK).
12/3/2007 7:50 PM
trustkill01
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I'm not intending this to sound offensive at all toward Shout, but i mean yeah you've taken risks before with shows that had a following like COPS, which is very said to say we wont get vol 2 or 3, but i mean look at all the multi-volume sets or shall i say cartoons that Shout has put out that would have been mutli-volume sets and well quite frankly all of them have failed so far except super mario bros super show....cow boys of moo mesa is only 26 episodes...i mean max your talking 4 discs, put them in dual slim cases and packaging them like Captain N, Sonic, etc to save money, theres no risk of having to make further volumes.....i mean i am not in the business so i dont know.
12/4/2007 6:07 AM
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I agree with trustkill01 and roseangelo. I collect loads of dvd sets and Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa is a fantastic series. Witty and entertaining. The bootleggers are all over this show and you can find it readily available. That speaks volumes. Hooray for them! They know a good show when they see one. It lasted 2 seasons when most shows get canceled after a couple months. Besides the WWCBofMM is basically a spin-off of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Wikipedia says it was created by a guy who worked for Mirage Studios, home of the Turtles, and the C.O.W.-Boys appear in the TMNT comic books as friends of the Turtles and are official canon to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles universe. Hell, they even made a cameo in the Ninja Turtles television cartoon show. I mean that's great media exposure. I'm sure they occupy at least a corner of the Turtles fanbase ( if not more!) which is frickin' huge so I'm sure if an official release ( and a rigorous ad campaign) of the WWCBofMM show was available it'd sell no problem. The konami video game was a great game also. Wish that was available as an official release!!
12/4/2007 6:19 AM
dvddemon
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I just checked wikipedia again and the Wild West C.O.W.-Boys of Moo Mesa ran for 3 years on Toon Disney. Even more reason for a dvd release. In fact this show could easily be a Disney show, with it's quality and all. But it isn't. It's owned by CBS through King World who have The Oprah, Dr. Phil, Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune shows. Maybe if Shout won't release it CBS will?
6/2/2008 10:24 PM
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa
I would buy it if released. So you have my support.
6/29/2008 8:33 PM
Kris
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RE: Wild West C.O.W. boys of Moo Mesa

I gotta say...you advertise this in the right anthropomorphic (ie "furry") fan communities (especially where artists and their fans dwell and draw things like muscular minotaur-dudes among other things), and it'll sell.  There're well over 15, 000 folks in that fandom (I have no idea the actual number, just a callback to BW's minimum sales figure), though I dunno how many were into this cartoon in the `90s or would be willing to give it a try.

Sorry if that disturbed anyone, but it's true.  Furries will buy a whole lot of anything starring animal-men and mutants.  Street Sharks, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Thundercats, Biker Mice From Mars, etc...It's a niche market, but worth catering to somewhat (same as you'd advertise on gaming sites like IGN and whatnot...actually come to think of it, game companies are advertising to furry fans, perhaps unknowingly, on a constant basis by continually putting tons of beastmen playable characters in their titles and even having things like the Bloody Roar fighting game series and Altered Beast and the like).

I didn't see Wild West C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa (long enough title?) when I was a kid, I passed on it for the same reason I originally passed on Street Sharks and Biker Mice--had been obsessed with TMNT, had my fill of that sort of thing at the time (action-comedies with frequent parody elements and lotsa slapstick, plus usually inept villains), and didn't have to be too perceptive at the time to guess at it being a bandwagon opportunity thing...I dunno, maybe it was good.  I'd definitely be willing to give it a try, sight-unseen, if Shout released it.

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