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8/8/2010 2:45 PM
mystro88
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The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I have read on several sites that a 2014 release for M.A.S.K. The Movie is in the works! This is great news
8/8/2010 3:11 PM
mystro88
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread








Link http://toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=1&itemid=15897
3/21/2011 2:29 PM
DavidLambert
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Okay, let's put a long-awaited smile on mystro88's face and make this OFFICIAL!

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/MASK-DVDs-Planned/15148

3/21/2011 2:31 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Hells yeah!

Consider me an advance buyer!
3/21/2011 8:47 PM
Shipwreck
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Niiiiccceee.
3/22/2011 12:54 AM
DavidLambert
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I've added an important UPDATE/CORRECTION to my story; please read it.  Thanks!


----- Original Post -----
by DavidLambert at 3/21/2011 2:29:05 PM

Okay, let's put a long-awaited smile on mystro88's face and make this OFFICIAL!

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/MASK-DVDs-Planned/15148

3/22/2011 11:01 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Yeah, that's what I thought.  Was kinda surprised to see the news post from you, David, given the rumor-mill nature of the news so far!  For all we know this fellow could be doing some case art for his own personal set of DVDs and not an official set...  Probably not the case, but still you know what I mean.

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
3/22/2011 11:57 AM
Elric
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Sounds like somebody somewhere got their panties in a wad because they weren't ready for certain info to become public yet.  I wonder how much of the story will actually be wrong when all is said and done?
3/22/2011 1:58 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'd guess they are just not happy that M.A.S.K. stole the thunder away from their Nickelodeon cartoon release news and will give official news on it when the release date is closer.
3/23/2011 6:29 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Just when I thought I had no more reason to come here...
3/23/2011 1:34 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Please elaborate on this post. Is there gonna be a M.A.S.K. toon released on Nick soon?

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by N8 Storm at 3/22/2011 1:58:02 PM

I'd guess they are just not happy that M.A.S.K. stole the thunder away from their Nickelodeon cartoon release news and will give official news on it when the release date is closer.
3/23/2011 1:54 PM
DavidLambert
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
No, he's just talking about this:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/shownews/Wild-Thornberrys/4674


----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 3/23/2011 1:34:29 PM

Please elaborate on this post. Is there gonna be a M.A.S.K. toon released on Nick soon?

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 3/22/2011 1:58:02 PM

I'd guess they are just not happy that M.A.S.K. stole the thunder away from their Nickelodeon cartoon release news and will give official news on it when the release date is closer.
3/30/2011 1:25 AM
Quack
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
http://www.he-man.org/forums/boards/showpost.php?p=2679934&postcount=31
3/30/2011 9:27 AM
DavidLambert
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
You REALLY ought to know me better than that.

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/MASK-Press-Release/15183

Yes, my original story f*'ed up on the episode count of "75" (the ten-episode second season, "the racing season", isn't included).  But I had reasons to believe what I did about the number count; it was an honest mistake.

And FWIW, that's all I've got to say about the matter.


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by Zaranyzerak at 3/22/2011 11:01:27 AM

Yeah, that's what I thought.  Was kinda surprised to see the news post from you, David, given the rumor-mill nature of the news so far!  For all we know this fellow could be doing some case art for his own personal set of DVDs and not an official set...  Probably not the case, but still you know what I mean.

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
3/30/2011 9:42 AM
jrusch
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
^ Super stoked for this collection!

"Together, we're gonna find our way" (to bring Silver Spoons seasons 2-5 to DVD)!
3/30/2011 10:30 AM
mike962
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
so does the economy finaly work again Brian, are the sale figures again PRE 2008 level ??? Can we expect more 80s cartoons ????
3/30/2011 10:31 AM
mike962
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
so does the economy finaly work again Brian, are the sale figures again PRE 2008 level ??? Can we expect more 80s cartoons ????
3/30/2011 10:31 AM
mike962
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
so does the economy finaly work again Brian, are the sale figures again PRE 2008 level ??? Can we expect more 80s cartoons ????
3/30/2011 12:05 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I really hope some remastering goes into these. I've been thru all of the sets from over seas and the colors on them are bad. Brian I beg you to make them more bright and colorful.

Anyone know what other titles FremantleMedia Enterprises owns?
3/30/2011 12:09 PM
Vanquest
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

French and German ones were great, maybe you were referring to the Lace and Madmen ones?

This is the greatest day of 2011. MASK rulez!



----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 3/30/2011 12:05:27 PM

I really hope some remastering goes into these. I've been thru all of the sets from over seas and the colors on them are bad. Brian I beg you to make them more bright and colorful.

Anyone know what other titles FremantleMedia Enterprises owns?
3/30/2011 12:25 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I did not get those, are they in English?

+1 for the greatest day in 2011.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 3/30/2011 12:09:05 PM

French and German ones were great, maybe you were referring to the Lace and Madmen ones?

This is the greatest day of 2011. MASK rulez!



----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 3/30/2011 12:05:27 PM

I really hope some remastering goes into these. I've been thru all of the sets from over seas and the colors on them are bad. Brian I beg you to make them more bright and colorful.

Anyone know what other titles FremantleMedia Enterprises owns?
3/30/2011 1:22 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
To Brian, Will you be releasing a complete season 1 set? Are you still negotiating for season 2 with whomever is the owner? Please, please still try to get season 2.
3/30/2011 2:11 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Like I said before the official announcement, I will be making an advance purchase as soon as it is available. I'm really looking forward to this. Now the crusade is for a series like Dinosaucers.
3/30/2011 4:10 PM
Vanquest
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

BRIAN said on Twitter that the Racing Series has standalone licenses and rights.

The real question is:

ISN'T TOO LATE? I mean, RHINO mastered TRANSFORMERS on DVD when the original elements were relatively "younger" (2002-2003), before they would degrade over time even more. Aren't the MASK original elements degraded through these years?

3/30/2011 4:33 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Yahoooo! This totally made my day.  This is definitely the greatest day of 2011..so far.   Hopefully the sales are astronomical so Shout can finish up Mad About You.  I'm definitely buying the moment I hear it goes on sale.
3/30/2011 5:00 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Not necessarily. When Star Wars was restored for VHS home release in the 90s, which I believe was marketed as the last release in their original incarnations, it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white. It is also dependent upon how well the masters were stored, but since we're talking about a time when people couldn't fathom that there would be any market for these shows on home video, they probably weren't given the best treatment.

Unless the masters have been royally abused, they should still be in good enough shape to produce good quality picture and sound, as the film stock should not show significant signs of decay under normal storage conditions for 50 years. The time frame can be increased exponentially if the masters were kept in cold storage.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 3/30/2011 4:10:23 PM

ISN'T TOO LATE? I mean, RHINO mastered TRANSFORMERS on DVD when the original elements were relatively "younger" (2002-2003), before they would degrade over time even more. Aren't the MASK original elements degraded through these years?
3/30/2011 7:01 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I think it's safe to say that the film stock is probably long gone.  More often than not, these shows were produced and cut on film and transferred to tape quickly.  DiC was known for keeping budgets low and since cellulose could be quite valuable afterward, I'm sure that stuff was gotten rid enough as soon as the transfer was made to tape.  So the quality of the series is entirely based on the condition of the masters.

Brian

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3/30/2011 7:46 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Don't forget all the PSAs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIOOenQoR2Q&feature=related

3/31/2011 4:26 AM
Jon T
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Yeah, most 80s DIC series now only seem to survive on video masters produced with 80s technology, so none of them look so hot now.

On the plus side, at least we now know that it was the mighty FreemantleMedia who held the key to (most of) M.A.S.K., so we also know that they possibly hold the home video rights to other similar series that are not currently public knowledge, and thus another target to pester! :)

4/1/2011 8:55 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Which Star Wars Release are you referring to?  The "original incarnations" were never released on VHS.  They (the "original incarnations")  were only released in 2006 on dvd after years of pressure from the fans.  The statement "it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white" is also untrue.  What I believe you are referring to, evidenced by these two statements, is the Special Editions which were released in 1997.  When 20th Century Fox approached Lucasfilm about rereleasing the films for Star Wars 20th anniversary, George Lucas realized "Darth Vader had faded to more of a navy blue".

----- Original Post -----
by Manic at 3/30/2011 5:00:50 PM

Not necessarily. When Star Wars was restored for VHS home release in the 90s, which I believe was marketed as the last release in their original incarnations, it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white. It is also dependent upon how well the masters were stored, but since we're talking about a time when people couldn't fathom that there would be any market for these shows on home video, they probably weren't given the best treatment.

Unless the masters have been royally abused, they should still be in good enough shape to produce good quality picture and sound, as the film stock should not show significant signs of decay under normal storage conditions for 50 years. The time frame can be increased exponentially if the masters were kept in cold storage.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 3/30/2011 4:10:23 PM

ISN'T TOO LATE? I mean, RHINO mastered TRANSFORMERS on DVD when the original elements were relatively "younger" (2002-2003), before they would degrade over time even more. Aren't the MASK original elements degraded through these years?
4/1/2011 8:56 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Yes, please include all the PSAs.

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 3/30/2011 7:46:01 PM

Don't forget all the PSAs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIOOenQoR2Q&feature=related

4/1/2011 12:46 PM
jedicrippler
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

The copy of Star Wars I have on VHS with a copyright date of 1984 would beg to differ with you.  As would Empire & Jedi from 1991.

 

And the re-mastered versions were released on VHS, seeing as I've got copies of those as well.

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by sdrawkcab at 4/1/2011 8:55:04 AM

Which Star Wars Release are you referring to?  The "original incarnations" were never released on VHS.  They (the "original incarnations")  were only released in 2006 on dvd after years of pressure from the fans.  The statement "it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white" is also untrue.  What I believe you are referring to, evidenced by these two statements, is the Special Editions which were released in 1997.  When 20th Century Fox approached Lucasfilm about rereleasing the films for Star Wars 20th anniversary, George Lucas realized "Darth Vader had faded to more of a navy blue".

----- Original Post -----
by Manic at 3/30/2011 5:00:50 PM

Not necessarily. When Star Wars was restored for VHS home release in the 90s, which I believe was marketed as the last release in their original incarnations, it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white. It is also dependent upon how well the masters were stored, but since we're talking about a time when people couldn't fathom that there would be any market for these shows on home video, they probably weren't given the best treatment.

Unless the masters have been royally abused, they should still be in good enough shape to produce good quality picture and sound, as the film stock should not show significant signs of decay under normal storage conditions for 50 years. The time frame can be increased exponentially if the masters were kept in cold storage.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 3/30/2011 4:10:23 PM

ISN'T TOO LATE? I mean, RHINO mastered TRANSFORMERS on DVD when the original elements were relatively "younger" (2002-2003), before they would degrade over time even more. Aren't the MASK original elements degraded through these years?
4/1/2011 3:51 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
It's been more than a decade since I have seen the features, so I would need to pull out the tapes to get the proper terminology and whatnot. The releases in question were the final VHS release prior to the Special Editions, which included a mini documentary before the movie. I've rarely bothered with VHS unless I've absolutely had to, not to mention that these were pan-and-scan copies, which just doesn't cut it anymore.

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 4/1/2011 8:55:04 AM

Which Star Wars Release are you referring to?  The "original incarnations" were never released on VHS.  They (the "original incarnations")  were only released in 2006 on dvd after years of pressure from the fans.  The statement "it was said that the masters had degraded nearly to black and white" is also untrue.  What I believe you are referring to, evidenced by these two statements, is the Special Editions which were released in 1997.  When 20th Century Fox approached Lucasfilm about rereleasing the films for Star Wars 20th anniversary, George Lucas realized "Darth Vader had faded to more of a navy blue".
4/3/2011 1:10 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I don't want to hijack the thread by going into all the differences between the releases, so let me just say if your copy of Star Wars includes "Episode IV" or "A New Hope" in the opening crawl of the movie, it is NOT the "original incarnation" of the the movie when it was released to theaters in 1977.

----- Original Post -----
by jedicrippler at 4/1/2011 12:46:00 PM

The copy of Star Wars I have on VHS with a copyright date of 1984 would beg to differ with you.  As would Empire & Jedi from 1991.

 

And the re-mastered versions were released on VHS, seeing as I've got copies of those as well.

4/8/2011 8:48 PM
tigerpaw28
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Brian, would you be looking for M.A.S.K. toy commercials to include in this set? I have two, maybe three that I could provide.
4/9/2011 1:07 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I think most people interested in Star Wars knows that particular fact, but if "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the opening is the only difference between the theatrical and VHS/Beta/other releases at the time, it's pretty much down to semantics. Is the content of the movie significantly or noticeably different?

I'm too young to have seen Star Wars when it was in the theatres in 1977, was the movie completely revised by the home video market really kicked in?

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 4/3/2011 1:10:15 PM

I don't want to hijack the thread by going into all the differences between the releases, so let me just say if your copy of Star Wars includes "Episode IV" or "A New Hope" in the opening crawl of the movie, it is NOT the "original incarnation" of the the movie when it was released to theaters in 1977.
4/9/2011 4:36 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I have one or two two nice quality MASK toy commercials as well that I'd be happy to contribute.

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
4/12/2011 6:55 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
When the original Star Wars trilogy was first released on dvd in 2004 the movies were altered to have them make more sense in relation to the prequel trilogy (a.k.a. continuity).  For the non-Star Wars fan there aren't any noticable differences, but if you are a Star Wars fan the differences matter depending on your level of fandom.  Some people were disappointed that they didn't get what they thought they were buying, while other people were outraged.  Like I've said before, it took another 2 years of fan pressure to get the original trilogy released on dvd in their "original theatrical versions".  Any VHS release, including the Special Edition Trilogy from 1997 also contains the so-called "continuity errors".  I could go on about all the differences in the various releases but this is the M.A.S.K. thread.

----- Original Post -----
by Manic at 4/9/2011 1:07:42 PM

I think most people interested in Star Wars knows that particular fact, but if "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the opening is the only difference between the theatrical and VHS/Beta/other releases at the time, it's pretty much down to semantics. Is the content of the movie significantly or noticeably different?

I'm too young to have seen Star Wars when it was in the theatres in 1977, was the movie completely revised by the home video market really kicked in?

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 4/3/2011 1:10:15 PM

I don't want to hijack the thread by going into all the differences between the releases, so let me just say if your copy of Star Wars includes "Episode IV" or "A New Hope" in the opening crawl of the movie, it is NOT the "original incarnation" of the the movie when it was released to theaters in 1977.
5/12/2011 8:50 PM
Grune_The_Destroyer
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Wow, this is very interesting news.  I had no idea M.A.S.K. was coming out until I just happened to click on the Shout homepage after not really seeing anything for a few months and seeing the box set available for pre-order.

Brian I've got a couple of questions I'm hoping you can shed some light on

1.  M.A.S.K. is being released in its entirety as a box set.  Is this a shift in your company's policy towards 80s action cartoons?  Previously you have released shows in volumes that IMO are on the same level fan base as M.A.S.K. with the same number of episodes that to date were never completed (I'm referring to C.O.P.S. and Jayce).  Why was M.A.S.K. deemed more of a safe bet to release as a whole series?

2.  How much is the success of the M.A.S.K. box set going to be tied to how you approach future shows that you may license?  Also, if M.A.S.K. sells well how much would that weigh in on possibly revisiting a complete Shout box run of shows like C.O.P.S. and Jayce? 

3.  What impact could the sales of M.A.S.K., a 65 episode show, have on potentially considering shows with lower episode runs but still frequently requested on these boards that have never been released or were only partially released in Region 1 territories?  (some particular 13 episode shows dear to my heart are Visionaries, Inhumanoids, and Dino-Riders)

Thanks Brian for any answers you can provide.  I will absolutely be purchasing this even though I never saw the show as a kid and I'm hoping that both M.A.S.K. sells well, and that this is a new approach you will take for future releases:  Releasing them in one box set instead of volumes...at least if they're 65 episodes or less.
5/13/2011 11:49 AM
dragin
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Grune_The_Destroyer
If you look in another Section of the forums It shows that Shout is not finishing C.O.P.S. it went some place else.  I wish Shout still had C.O.P.S.  I like the thoughts on Visionaries and Inhumanoids. I would also like to have a finish on Jayce as well.
5/13/2011 1:27 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Shout! does still have the C.O.P.S. rights.  They confirmed this on twitter awhile back.  They are sublicensing it out to Mill Creek, so there is still a chance (albeit small) that Shout! could release a third volume or complete series set.  I'd like to see Visionaries or Inhumanoids come out or Jayce finished as well.

this was from Shout's twitter in February-Question: I know Mill Creek is releasing C.O.P.S. now, but is there any chance Shout would still release a Volume 3 with the final eps?  
 Shoutfactory: It is possible, but there are no current plans for it.

 

 

 

I still hope we get all the PSAs on this M.A.S.K. set.  I'd also like to see some interviews with the voice cast and writers.

5/22/2011 12:42 PM
MASKmovie
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'm very excited that M.A.S.K. is being released to DVD this year!
I haven't been able to find conformation that a live action movie is in the works. I know I'm one of many that would love to see one made. From what I've heard DC Comics/Warner Brothers holds the movie rights.
I've wanted a so bad that a friend and I decided 2 years ago to write a live action script for M.A.S.K. We've been actively trying to sell or even get interest in the concept. We'd love for our script to be used of course, but we just want a M.A.S.K.movie to be made period.

We started a blog and Facebook page earlier this year to find supporters. We'd appreciate your interest! There are thousands of M.A.S.K. fans still out there and hopefully the DVD release will awaken them!!

Find us here:

http://mobilearmoredstrikekommandmovie.blogspot.com
http://www.facebook.com/maskthemovie

Thanks,
Jason
5/22/2011 4:57 PM
trust the fungus
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread


----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 5/13/2011 1:27:13 PM

Shout! does still have the C.O.P.S. rights.  They confirmed this on twitter awhile back.  They are sublicensing it out to Mill Creek, so there is still a chance (albeit small) that Shout! could release a third volume or complete series set.  I'd like to see Visionaries or Inhumanoids come out or Jayce finished as well.

this was from Shout's twitter in February-Question: I know Mill Creek is releasing C.O.P.S. now, but is there any chance Shout would still release a Volume 3 with the final eps?  
 Shoutfactory: It is possible, but there are no current plans for it.

 

 

 

I still hope we get all the PSAs on this M.A.S.K. set.  I'd also like to see some interviews with the voice cast and writers.

I don't see any reason why mill creek shouldn't finish C.O.P.S. I'd rather pay $10 for the rest of the series instead of $30. I'm sure many others feel the same.
5/22/2011 8:15 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

I never said that I thought Mill Creek wouldn't release a volume 2 of C.O.P.S., just that Shout! could release their volume 3 if they wanted to as well since they have the DVD rights.  Anyways, this is a M.A.S.K. thread, so lets move on...

here is a thread below about a guy that says he is working on the DVD extras for M.A.S.K. and is looking to interview M.A.S.K. fans:

http://www.matt-trakker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3093.msg18990#msg18990

 

7/12/2011 8:50 PM
Grune_The_Destroyer
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Bump, not only for some questions above that it'd be nice to get an answer from Brian on, but also just to get clarification about the Racing season and the DiC license.

Does this pretty much put the final nail in the coffin for Shout being able to release the 10 episode Racing season?
7/13/2011 7:20 PM
StarTrooper
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread


Brian stated in the other MASK thread that DiC/Cookie Jar no longer has the rights to the racing series.


----- Original Post -----
by Grune_The_Destroyer at 7/12/2011 8:50:24 PM

Bump, not only for some questions above that it'd be nice to get an answer from Brian on, but also just to get clarification about the Racing season and the DiC license.

Does this pretty much put the final nail in the coffin for Shout being able to release the 10 episode Racing season?
7/14/2011 7:18 PM
Grune_The_Destroyer
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Thanks StarTrooper.  I actually read that the other day but didn't post it here.  Good to know though.  Seems confusing to have two M.A.S.K. threads this long though.  One of the Shout admins should merge them, or close one of them.
7/27/2011 2:44 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Not the most glowing of reviews:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/49804/mask-the-complete-series/

7/28/2011 12:01 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
It seems to me the reviewer is basing his review mostly on the show, which he obviously didn't watch much as a kid, and very little about the set itself.  It is a kid's show after all, not something that's going to be completely logical to an adult. 

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by N8 Storm at 7/27/2011 2:44:18 PM

Not the most glowing of reviews:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/49804/mask-the-complete-series/

7/28/2011 2:21 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread


----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 7/28/2011 12:01:05 PM

It seems to me the reviewer is basing his review mostly on the show, which he obviously didn't watch much as a kid, and very little about the set itself.  It is a kid's show after all, not something that's going to be completely logical to an adult. 

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by N8 Storm at 7/27/2011 2:44:18 PM

Not the most glowing of reviews:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/49804/mask-the-complete-series/

I have a feeling the guy is right on about his review. I am dreading when I get mine the video quality won't be much of an improvement over the PAL releases I already have.
7/29/2011 9:03 PM
Meistershake
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I just cancelled my pre-order for this because I'm really pissed about the misleading "Complete Series" tag the set has. The Racing episodes were my favorite of the series (NO Scott and T-Bob! New characters like Lester Sludge, Nevada Rushmore and Boris Bushkin) and I was really excited to get them because the quality of these eps on every bootleg sucks. It's the the complete series no matter how you slice it. I think it's messed up to advertise it as such. But if it doesn't include those episodes I'll stick with my two different crappy bootlegs.
8/9/2011 5:42 PM
Jer701
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Was anyone else aware that M.A.S.K. The Complete Series DVD released today 8/9/2011 seems to be an online only release?  I wanted to pick it up today but everywhere I looked it was only available online.  That goes for all retail stores too.  Did anyone find a copy at a store today?

8/9/2011 7:05 PM
FlameStrike
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I happen to agree that the "Complete Series" label on this set is highly misleading. I have read the rationale behind calling this the complete series, and I find it extremely unconvincing. The explanation for considering the final episodes a different series makes no sense to me. If the final racing episodes are ever released, it will be very difficult to find them, and I strongly suspect this label will hurt sales for those potential future sets since people will likely see them as being the same series, see the "Complete Series" label, and assume it contains those ten episodes.

That said, I still purchased the set in an effort to support the series on DVD in the hope that it will push someone to release the final ten episodes.

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by Meistershake at 7/29/2011 9:03:15 PM

I just cancelled my pre-order for this because I'm really pissed about the misleading "Complete Series" tag the set has. The Racing episodes were my favorite of the series (NO Scott and T-Bob! New characters like Lester Sludge, Nevada Rushmore and Boris Bushkin) and I was really excited to get them because the quality of these eps on every bootleg sucks. It's the the complete series no matter how you slice it. I think it's messed up to advertise it as such. But if it doesn't include those episodes I'll stick with my two different crappy bootlegs.
8/10/2011 10:44 AM
StarTrooper
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Yes, I figured the (in)complete series set would be online exclusive to most stores, but I still looked for it at my local Wal-Mart yesterday and there was no shelf space devoted to M.A.S.K., not even the retailer friendly volume 1 set.

Wal-Mart - website lists both the (in)complete series and Vol. 1 as "not sold in stores" and both are aslo flagged as "unrated" which means according to Wal-Mart policy they will not sell these items to anyone under the age of 17.

Best Buy - "order online or order in store" so basically you can either order it online or go to the store and then have them order it online for you.

Target - "This item is available online, but is not available in stores." and also "Arriving soon! Order now for shipment in 2 to 4 weeks". [(in)complete series only]. Vol. 1 is "in stock, but also online only."

Wow, epic fail on Shout's part on getting the big three box retailers to carry it's M.A.S.K. releases in store.

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by Jer701 at 8/9/2011 5:42:36 PM

Was anyone else aware that M.A.S.K. The Complete Series DVD released today 8/9/2011 seems to be an online only release?  I wanted to pick it up today but everywhere I looked it was only available online.  That goes for all retail stores too.  Did anyone find a copy at a store today?

8/10/2011 1:54 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Really? Again with the "epic fail on Shout's part?"  You do realize, don't you, that we have no control over what they buy, how much they buy or where they stock it?

The fact is, a number of retailers weren't even all that keen on ordering M.A.S.K. due to the fact that few store buyers remembered the show.  We did a lot to secure purchases from those major retailers.

You want the brick 'n' mortar store to carry it?  Go inside and order it.  Those orders get processed and when the home office sees demand, they supply it.

We sold it to those retailers.  But we can't force them to put it in their stores, guys.

Brian

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8/10/2011 3:19 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I am a bad panda, I didn't get my set today. I will have to wait til mid September to get mine.
8/10/2011 3:37 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

I checked every place I could think of and no one had it.  I just checked on my pre-order on Amazon and it says "shipping soon".  One would think they would have shipped it on tuesday.  I ordered it there due to lack of info about the bonus iron-on Shout is offering.  It's estimated to arrive by the 15th at the earliest.

On another note, having worked in retail, I can honestly say some "buyers" are clueless.  So don't blame Shout for stores not carrying what you're looking for.

8/10/2011 6:54 PM
Jer701
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'm definitely not complaining.  I just was wondering if anybody found it at a store.  While it was a shame that I couldn't go into a store on Tuesday, I will just order it online when I get paid on Friday.  Can't wait!!
8/11/2011 12:35 AM
silverblue
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'm very happy with the M.A.S.K. set. I never would have ever thought a set like this would be available at Wal-mart or Target, Amazon is the place for DVDs. I pre-ordered from Amazon and it arrived 8/10 with standard shipping. (I'd already purchased the MASK DVD at SDCC, but wanted an extra copy so I didn't cancel my pre-order). I hated the racing episodes, I'm thankful they are not included. I'm glad Shout released the just the 65 first season episodes. Personally, I think many fans expect far too much. We're fortunate Shout cares enough to do a great job with the MASK DVD considering it's really a niche market. Other great 80's cartoons like Pole Position can't even get a DVD release. At least all 65 episodes of the real MASK cartoon was released on DVD, not iTunes or Hulu.
8/11/2011 2:24 AM
FlameStrike
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
On the other hand, those of us who liked those episodes would like to have the option of watching them again. Including them in this set, and truly making it the complete series, would have been nice. Those who didn't like them wouldn't have to watch them.

In either case, Shout couldn't get the rights to those because someone else apparently owns them. I understand that. My issue isn't with the fact that they're not included. My issue is with the way the set is named. It could be misleading if the final episodes are ever released.

I do agree though that the existence of this set is a good start, and that it would be nice to see shows like Pole Position on DVD. Who knows, if this set gets enough support, maybe someone will consider putting those others out.

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by silverblue at 8/11/2011 12:35:03 AM

I'm very happy with the M.A.S.K. set. I never would have ever thought a set like this would be available at Wal-mart or Target, Amazon is the place for DVDs. I pre-ordered from Amazon and it arrived 8/10 with standard shipping. (I'd already purchased the MASK DVD at SDCC, but wanted an extra copy so I didn't cancel my pre-order). I hated the racing episodes, I'm thankful they are not included. I'm glad Shout released the just the 65 first season episodes. Personally, I think many fans expect far too much. We're fortunate Shout cares enough to do a great job with the MASK DVD considering it's really a niche market. Other great 80's cartoons like Pole Position can't even get a DVD release. At least all 65 episodes of the real MASK cartoon was released on DVD, not iTunes or Hulu.
8/11/2011 9:29 AM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Looks like FYEs and Barnes & Nobles are carrying them in-store.  Most of the others have made it an online exclusive, "due to shelf space."  In truth, a lot of those retail buyers don't remember the show.  If it's not a contemporary hit or ingrained in pop culture, these folks just don't want it "cluttering" those precious shelves, of which they have so few these days.

Sorry, gang.

Brian

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8/11/2011 3:32 PM
Kevin_Keene
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Got my set in yesterday and love it! I can see a huge difference in picture quality between my UK/AU sets. The colors look great. On some episodes they look a little washed, but I know that is due to age. I noticed on Volume 3 Disc-2 the episode The Lost Riches of Rio has a constant tracking line in the middle of the episode from time to time. Was there no way to get around that or was it missed in the remastering. Was there suppose to be a booklet in the complete set? You guys usually do that. I really wish there was one with all of the MASK agent artwork like in the French DVD set. Other than that Brian you have made this MASK fan very happy. Now back to M.A.S.K.

"What can I say I'm hooked"
8/12/2011 4:23 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Barnes & Noble is pretty good about carrying everything.  The downside is they usually charge full list price on everything, even on release day.  I think they do it to spur sales for their "discount" card.  Unless you spend a good chunk of money there, paying them to save 10% on select items they choose isn't worth it.  FYE is pretty much the same way except whether or not you'll find what you're after is hit or miss.  The one near me didn't carry it when I checked Tuesday.  I'm just glad my Amazon order shipped Thursday.

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by B Ward at 8/11/2011 9:29:58 AM

Looks like FYEs and Barnes & Nobles are carrying them in-store.  Most of the others have made it an online exclusive, "due to shelf space."  In truth, a lot of those retail buyers don't remember the show.  If it's not a contemporary hit or ingrained in pop culture, these folks just don't want it "cluttering" those precious shelves, of which they have so few these days.

Sorry, gang.

Brian

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8/12/2011 1:47 PM
silverblue
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Sorry, but the MASK's second season was horrible! It's not MASK. It was DIC at it's worst doing what Do-It-Cheap does best. I'm thrilled the 2nd Season's not coming out on DVD and can only hope DIC's horrific GI Joe series never comes out on DVD either. I know Shout has plans, but seriously- DIC destroyed GI Joe, prevented a 3rd season of the Sunbow series. Why release that?

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by FlameStrike at 8/11/2011 2:24:20 AM

On the other hand, those of us who liked those episodes would like to have the option of watching them again. Including them in this set, and truly making it the complete series, would have been nice. Those who didn't like them wouldn't have to watch them.

8/13/2011 6:40 AM
FlameStrike
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Once again, if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it or watch it. Your opinion and mine are different, and I happen to want those missing episodes.

As for DIC preventing Sunbow from doing a third season of G.I. Joe, there was a gap of two years between the shows. I somehow doubt they prevented Sunbow from producing a third season.

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by silverblue at 8/12/2011 1:47:16 PM

Sorry, but the MASK's second season was horrible! It's not MASK. It was DIC at it's worst doing what Do-It-Cheap does best. I'm thrilled the 2nd Season's not coming out on DVD and can only hope DIC's horrific GI Joe series never comes out on DVD either. I know Shout has plans, but seriously- DIC destroyed GI Joe, prevented a 3rd season of the Sunbow series. Why release that?
8/13/2011 11:23 AM
gos
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I want those 10 missing episodes from the racing series as well!  Does anyone know who owns the rights to the racing series?  Is there any chance that Shout Factory may consider the racing series as a 2012 DVD release?
8/13/2011 9:11 PM
silverblue
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I lump DIC's GI Joe and the horrific 2nd season of MASK together because it really shows that Do-It-Cheap truly didn't care about the fans, didn't care about continuity, and were just doing whatever the toy companies wanted. Product changes- throw out what was done before, scrap the continuity, and re-do the show. Hopefully the DIC execs might get it. That they f-ed up good shows that fans loved. The 2nd Season of MASK wasn't MASK at all and it doesn't deserve to be on a DVD with the first season. And yes- DIC underbid Sunbow and got GI Joe away from them, preventing a 3rd Season of Sunbow's GI Joe. The Sunbow writers have talked about it. There's an interview on the site Joeheadquarters.com w/ Buzz Dixon that talks about it.

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by FlameStrike at 8/13/2011 6:40:03 AM

Once again, if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it or watch it. Your opinion and mine are different, and I happen to want those missing episodes.

As for DIC preventing Sunbow from doing a third season of G.I. Joe, there was a gap of two years between the shows. I somehow doubt they prevented Sunbow from producing a third season.

8/14/2011 2:56 PM
FlameStrike
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Well, maybe you're right about G.I. Joe. I've never been enough of a fan to visit the fan sites or read any interviews about it. The 2 year gap between seasons, however, still raises questions.

Regardless, I can't blame DIC for doing what the toy companies wanted. The toy companies were the ones putting up the money, they were the ones who owned the property. Many people have expressed the same kind of attitude about Season three of Transformers, and that was Sunbow, who also did the first two years of that show. As for them not paying attention to continuity, that's not exactly uncommon for cartoons of the time. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Sunbow, when writing G.I. Joe, didn't pay much attention to continuity if it conflicted with telling the stories. I know they didn't let it bother them when writing Transformers, and they had some of the same writers.

Now, I don't expect to change your mind about the racing episodes, and I'm not tryingto. However, it your reasons for condemning DIC don't make sense to me. They were hired to do a job, the writer put in charge of the project for MASK did what he was asked to do. In my opinion, he did a pretty good job, especially given the toys that were on the market at the time. If you don't like them, so be it, but I don't understand why you seem to feel like those of us who like them should be denied the option of enjoying them if the rights can ever be secured.

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by silverblue at 8/13/2011 9:11:26 PM

I lump DIC's GI Joe and the horrific 2nd season of MASK together because it really shows that Do-It-Cheap truly didn't care about the fans, didn't care about continuity, and were just doing whatever the toy companies wanted. Product changes- throw out what was done before, scrap the continuity, and re-do the show. Hopefully the DIC execs might get it. That they f-ed up good shows that fans loved. The 2nd Season of MASK wasn't MASK at all and it doesn't deserve to be on a DVD with the first season. And yes- DIC underbid Sunbow and got GI Joe away from them, preventing a 3rd Season of Sunbow's GI Joe. The Sunbow writers have talked about it. There's an interview on the site Joeheadquarters.com w/ Buzz Dixon that talks about it.

----- Original Post -----
by FlameStrike at 8/13/2011 6:40:03 AM

Once again, if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it or watch it. Your opinion and mine are different, and I happen to want those missing episodes.

As for DIC preventing Sunbow from doing a third season of G.I. Joe, there was a gap of two years between the shows. I somehow doubt they prevented Sunbow from producing a third season.

8/14/2011 4:13 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

I posted this in the other M.A.S.K. thread:

Season 2 writer and story editor Jack Olesker commented on Vanquest's post in another forum.

 This is a post from he-man.org and is copied here with Jack Olesker's permission:

"Okay, so let me weigh in on this. To begin with, I'd like everyone to know that I neither take offense at criticism nor expect everyone to like my work. I bring my heart and soul to my work. Most times I succeed in creating quality entertainment -- one does not survive three decades in this businss junless you do create quality content most of the time. Sometimes, however, I fail. It's the nature of the creative process and I always try to learn where I went wrong. Having my mistakes pointed out to me, btw, is one of the things I love most about the board because it helps me to continue to improve my work. But I always bring my best efforts to my writing, producing and directing.

Next let me say that my work on M.A.S.K. was a long time ago in a galaxy... (Well, you get the point...) I've written over a thousand episodes of television and I can't count how many television series I've been involved with. This is not to sound boastful, but instead so everyone will hopefully understand it's impossible for me to remember every single element and nuance. Too, time does blur some of my recollections.

With that said...

1- It belongs to COOKIE JAR. Brian Ward confirmed so. I'm sure that's true, but it was originally produced by DIC. DIC was subsequently acquired by Cookie Jar, and folding in DIC's library was one of the parts of the deal. As an aside I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Andy Heyward -- DIC's president -- was one of my mentors. Andy taught me much about both the creative and business elements of the entertainment industry and I am grateful to him beyond measure.

2- The origin/backstory is different: Mayhem was a co-partner of Matt Trakker and they created M.A.S.K. together. Then, Mayhem created V.E.N.O.M. to compete with M.A.S.K. An origin slightly similar to the comic book which accompained the early toys, not the original cartoon series where MASK and VENOM are totally unrelated. That's quite true. I liked the comics backstory better and consciously chose to favor it. Chef's choice.


3- MASK is a race team, not a secret, anti-terrorism organization supported by PNA (Duane Kennedy). 4- VENOM is a race team, not a terrorist squad with OBVIOUS criminal past and "social status". Life is organic and ever-changing. It was some years between the two series and the characters moved on to other interests, like competitive racing. Moving to an alternative universe to do that, btw, is not necessary.

5- MASK agents have no secret identities nor civilian jobs. True again. And your point is?

6- No mention of the "past" Season 1 adventures, no continuity-related cohesion with them anyway (read the points above). So?

7- New masks with silly powers, not designed to fight terrorist actions. Shroud, Eclipse, Totem. That's a subjective opinion and you're entitled to it. You might want to think, however, about re-phrasing as "It's my opinion the new masks had silly powers" rather than making it a definitive statement...especially when a writer worked very hard to create those masks.

8- Mayhem's... twin brother. Kindly refresh my memory about this and what your point is.

9- Brad Turner, Dusty Hayes, Clutch --- their lives and MASK functions are different. And why is this a problem?

10- 10 episodes, not even a full 65-episodes season. Screams alternate spin-off. True -- and I stand corrected about having said it was thirteen. This was the toy company's call, so I don't know what their motivation was. But I don't see why it would mean it was an alternative spin-off.

11- More importantly: in the Racing Series the VENOM helmets are as much powerful as the MASK ones, if not more (see Powerhouse/Samson and what it does). In the original series, the MASK helmets were much more powerful because charged via Trakker's ancient crystal, which generates an incredible and unlimited amount of (mysterious) energy. A lot of time has passed between the two seasons, so you fill in the blanks -- the crystal was stolen, its power ebbed, etc. Does everyhting always need to be spelled out?

I will give you a definitive answer however -- and I can give it because it's not a opinion but rather my intent as the writer and story editor of that season: I never intended the season to be in an alternative universe. Rather, I saw it as picking up the story some years later, with all the characters having new interests and, in some cases, new interrelationships. Time marches on and people change. That's called 'growth' and I don't think there's anything wrong with that."

 

8/14/2011 4:19 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

BOTH seasons were done by DiC.  The second season had the same opening as the first season.  The second season followed the first season immediately the year after.  The Austrialian DVD releases have ALL 75 episodes, so just because America's rights are a little messed up doesn't mean every country is.  M.A.S.K. isn't the first show to have big changes from one season to the next.  Obviously, they were trying to push their 3rd wave of toys in the second season.  I hope Shout! Factory's release does well and that gets them to go after the rights for the second season.  If not, I hope another company releases it.

8/17/2011 12:53 AM
Vanquest
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I noticed on Volume 3 Disc-2 the episode The Lost Riches of Rio has a constant tracking line in the middle of the episode from time to time. Was there no way to get around that or was it missed in the remastering.

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Please I NEED an answer on this. Is the line missing from the UK set? Was it un*avoidable during the remastering process?
8/17/2011 6:48 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

I noticed the horizontal line as well in that episode on the Shout! Factory set.

8/18/2011 12:43 AM
Vanquest
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
What about the overall PICTURE quality? It seems like SHOUT! did not remaster them. The reviews are mostly negative... very negative.
8/18/2011 1:54 AM
silverblue
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
No, Shout has been using old 1" analog video masters for almost all of their DVDs recently. Might as well keep things the same and not have all the issues that come up when companies do remastering incorrectly. At least everything is the same, no missing retakes, funky color, etc.

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by Vanquest at 8/18/2011 12:43:59 AM

What about the overall PICTURE quality? It seems like SHOUT! did not remaster them. The reviews are mostly negative... very negative.
8/18/2011 5:21 AM
take that 1980s!
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Brian, is it possible for you to divulge where the clear dvd cases came from for the MASK set? I see "One-Time" stamped on the inside but I can't find these exact cases online. I really would like to buy some of these case. And I'm not a troll, I own the MASK set, I'm just curious about where to buy more of these nice One-Time 6-disc cases. p.s. I haven't popped the dvds in yet but I like the packaging.
8/18/2011 9:37 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
As has been discussed numerous times on numerous other threads here over the past several years, a show can only be remastered if a film source exists.  For most 80's and 90's shows, the only complete versions of the shows that exist are the 1" analog broadcast master tapes.  It was rare that film elements would be kept for these shows.  While many shows were SHOT on film, all editing and post-production from this era was done on video.

There was little to no market for TV or cartoons on home video back then, and certainly no HD formats available, so there was no reason to keep higher quality masters around as the video masters were more than sufficient quality for what little market there was at the time.

Folks can complain about the "lack of remastering" until they're blue in the face, but the simple fact is - if no film source exists, then this is as good as it's ever going to look. You can't make silk from a sow's ear.  Blame the market back THEN, not Shout Factory NOW.  They use the best available masters, period.  There ARE no better masters available for these old shows.

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8/18/2011 10:42 AM
Vanquest
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Yeah, that's the point, but reviewers keep saying a remastering is POSSIBLE and has not been done by the charged company, but they are being 100% ignorant and are heavily misleading the general public by saying so. I think SHOUT! is doing one hell of a job with all their releases... MASK is not an exception.

 

8/20/2011 12:22 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Today, after watching it just sit on the shelf all week, I finally got the chance to open my set only to find out someone screwed up when filling the package.  I found no volume 2 disc 1 & two of volume 3 disc 1!  Now I have to wait even longer for Amazon to get my return & send the replacement!

8/21/2011 8:08 PM
Jeff Jacobson
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Jack Olesker sounds like an idiot.  He says that he used the comic book's backstory instead of that established in the previous episodes of the show, but doesn't understand why people think that the racing episodes are an alternate universe.
VENOM is a race team, not a terrorist squad with OBVIOUS criminal past and "social status". Life is organic and ever-changing. It was some years between the two series and the characters moved on to other interests, like competitive racing. Moving to an alternative universe to do that, btw, is not necessary.
That would be like if Osama Bin Laden was still alive, racing in NASCAR, and everyone was cool with that.
8/23/2011 3:24 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I got out my Australian releases today and I can say with 100% certainty that the horizontal line that appears in the Shout! Factory release does not appear on the Madman release.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 8/17/2011 12:53:39 AM

I noticed on Volume 3 Disc-2 the episode The Lost Riches of Rio has a constant tracking line in the middle of the episode from time to time. Was there no way to get around that or was it missed in the remastering.

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Please I NEED an answer on this. Is the line missing from the UK set? Was it un*avoidable during the remastering process?
8/24/2011 9:46 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Those releases would have been made from a set of PAL masters from who knows how long ago.  All that means is they were kept in slightly better shape than the original NTSC masters held by Hasbro.  If those PAL masters had been used, however, the overall picture quality would be severely degraded from all of the conversion and re-conversion.

They would have been NTSC to begin with, then converted to PAL, then to use them for the Shout release would mean converting them BACK to NTSC again.  The resulting picture quality would have been awful.  Shout made the right choice.

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8/24/2011 2:36 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Agreed.  The line was in the master and couldn't be fixed.  Anything pulled from a PAL master would look awful, for the reasons Zaranyzerak stated.  Going from NTSC to PAL back to NTSC would look bad.  And pulling from their PAL encodes would look even worse, which just wasn't an option.

Also, based on the information we've learned from both Madman and Metrodome on other projects--though, admittedly, not this one--they seem to usually borrow masters.  They don't seem to own clones, like we do.  So they'd likely not even have the original masters they used.  When I tried tracking down the Beast Wars tapes, for instance, not only did those folks not have the original masters, they didn't know where the masters they borrowed were.

Sorry for the inconvenience in this one episode's quality, but by my estimation--and, more importantly, the estimation of the DVD encoder/author--it could have been considerably worse.

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8/24/2011 4:25 PM
Manic
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I certainly don't have any complaints with the way the set looks or sounds. Several years ago, I got a bootleg of the series off of eBay and the Shout! sets, whether people like the quality or not, are exponentially better in every respect, there is really no comparison. Given the age of the material and the home video mindset at the time, the show looks quite good.

So... I'm gonna hold out hope that other 80s gems like Dinosaucers and Robotix (one of my personal favourites) can receive the Shout! treatment in the not-too-distant future.
8/24/2011 9:18 PM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'm very happy with the release so far, albeit I'm only a few episodes in, but I love it!  The guy doing the voice that sounds like Jake Nicholsen is hilarious lol.
9/2/2011 4:53 PM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
So has an american release of Season 2 but released? If so can someone supply a link to it and is it an official release or just a boot from some guys website?

Cry for Dawn
9/2/2011 8:17 PM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
No, the second season has not been officially released in the US.

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by cry4dawn at 9/2/2011 4:53:02 PM

So has an american release of Season 2 but released? If so can someone supply a link to it and is it an official release or just a boot from some guys website?

Cry for Dawn
11/15/2011 3:21 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Brian are you allowed to comment on the sales of M.A.S.K.? Is Shout! happy with the sets sold?
11/15/2011 4:00 PM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
I'm interested in knowing this as well.  I recently finished watching the whole set, and given the source quality, it was awesome!

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by Omega Supreme at 11/15/2011 3:21:37 PM

Brian are you allowed to comment on the sales of M.A.S.K.? Is Shout! happy with the sets sold?
11/29/2011 9:30 AM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Greetings,

 

Just picked up the set (finally!). I am happy with it overall although I only watched a few key episodes so far. Also the extras while limited were nice. The comedians talking about the show actually was pretty darn funny. And my son (5 years old) is an instant fan & didn't want to go to bed last night :). Although I agree with most adult fans that the 10 season 2 "racing" episodes were horrible (even when the show originally aired & I was 10 I was thinking what the heck happened?) I'd like to see them on DVD for the sake of completists like myself.

 

Also I had a quesiton- which episode contains the footage seen during the ending credits? I know there was never a "first" episode, but the animation appears different and I think it was as close to a first episode as there ever was. Any assistance is appreciated. Thank you.

11/29/2011 5:01 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
O. Supreme, a much bigger fan may be able to help you on that one.  I'm not entirely sure that I picked up on it.  Though, I wouldn't be surprised if it was created to be a closing title sequence, by the folks who animated the opening title sequences.  I've noticed that with DiC animated shows, they spend a lot more on designing and animating the openings than the shows themselves.  Look at the opening titles for COPS, for instance.

As for the sales, I'm not sure that I can really say.  For a number of reasons, including security, but more to the point that I'm not entirely sure.  I've not focused on it recently.

Brian

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12/1/2011 3:34 PM
gos
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread

Brian, this has been an excellent year for Shout Factory releases! I am looking forward to what is planned for 2012! Any hints available for 1st half 2012 cartoon releases? Does Shout Factory have any plans to pursue a release of the 10 episode 1986 M.A.S.K. Racing Series? Thank you again.

12/5/2011 3:36 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Much thanks, Gos.  Unfortunately, we have no plans for the racing series, at this time.  Doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.  Just that it hasn't.

Brian

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12/5/2011 11:59 PM
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Brian , honestly many MASK fans pretend that the racing series doesn't exiast, it's really that bad, if you want to release them you could go the cheap route this time and release all 10 on a single disk instead of 2!!!!!

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by B Ward at 12/5/2011 3:36:57 PM

Much thanks, Gos.  Unfortunately, we have no plans for the racing series, at this time.  Doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.  Just that it hasn't.

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12/6/2011 10:34 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: The Official M.A.S.K. Thread
Personally, I wouldn't even buy that.  My money is wating on Pacific Blue: The Complete Series from Mill Creek, and then Mission: Impossible - The '89 season (remake season 2).  Now if Shout would, perhaps, release Mad About You season 6 & 7 they would jump to the top of my list.  Other than those, I'm hoping someone releases Caroline in the City season 3 & 4 and Viper: The Complete Series.  I've pretty much written Murphy Brown off as a "lost cause".

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by mike962 at 12/5/2011 11:59:34 PM

Brian , honestly many MASK fans pretend that the racing series doesn't exiast, it's really that bad, if you want to release them you could go the cheap route this time and release all 10 on a single disk instead of 2!!!!!

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by B Ward at 12/5/2011 3:36:57 PM

Much thanks, Gos.  Unfortunately, we have no plans for the racing series, at this time.  Doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.  Just that it hasn't.

Brian

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