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7/13/2010 7:35 PM
Maxx151
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Layout of LITB house does it jive???

Hi here is a question to anyone who can tell us for sure about the layout of the Cleaver house for seasons 3-6 when looking at Ward/s car pulling into the driveway the driveway and garage are to the left of the front door.  Yet when entering the front door the Den is on the left.  Now when Ward parks the car in the driveway and walks into the kitchen you can see the side of the garage, can someone supply the layout of the house is the kitchen to the rear of the house lets say behind the den or is the kitchen to the right of the living room to the dining room and then behind the dining room!

Can Jerry Mathers or Tony Dow confirm??? 

 

7/14/2010 8:59 AM
Tom Clark
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RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
I love that house -- it's my all-time favorite TV house.

I can't say "for sure," but I think the layout is this:

Walking through the front door, let's say you're facing north, for description's sake.

Directly ahead are the stairs to the second floor.  To the east of the stairs is a corridor leading to the kitchen.

To the west of the front door is Ward's den.  To the east is the living room.

Farther east, past the living room, is the dining room.  French windows open onto a patio.

A door on the north side of the dining room leads to the kitchen, which includes a breakfast nook.

To the west of the kitchen is a laundry room, which must be to the north of Ward's den.

That means the garage, on the far western edge of the house, must have a door in the northeast corner of it leading into the laundry room.

I'm not so sure about the upstairs.  It seems Wally and Beaver's room is to the left (west) at the top of the stairs, so it must be over the garage.  That would mean the window in the back of the room should look out into the backyard, but I think sometimes Beaver has looked out of it and said, "Oh, oh - Dad's home," which implies it looks out over the driveway.

I swear, if I were to build a new house, I'd tell the architect to lay it out exactly like the Cleaver's second home, from the last four seasons.  That's how much I like it.  In fact, I've designed my own den to be arranged like Ward's, with a desk and bookshelves on one end, and a couch and TV set (and DVD player, of course) on the other end.

Now, if only I were like Ward in other ways .....
7/14/2010 4:55 PM
Mark Way
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RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
I remember one of the boys slept in the guest room, once.  It seemed to be across from B&W's room.  I don't recall ever seeing June & Wards' room though.
7/14/2010 6:27 PM
Navaros
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Member since: 3/21/2010
RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
In one of the featurettes on the DVDs, Billingsley comments on how there was no location  for Ward and June's room that was depicted on-screen, hence they are always seen putting on robes and such and walking into hallways as if they came from their room.

As for the other spatial relations of the house, I would think they are probably similarly abstract.  AFAIK there are no tracking shots or anything that would show how the rooms of the house are spatially related to each other.  Maybe some of the rooms that are represented to be in that house are not even in that house at all in reality.

"Can Jerry Mathers or Tony Dow confirm??? "

Quite possible, but how are you gonna ask them?  They probably don't post on this board hence asking the question here isn't gonna get it seen by their eyes. 
7/14/2010 8:27 PM
Maxx151
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RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
Hi Navaros and the other two posters here, well ya never know It's A Small World hey wasn't that the name of the LITB original pilot?????  Just this past May I had travel to Plimouth Platantion in MA because The History Channel is redoing their Holiday themed shows for this Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas and being I have written two books on Macy's one about the parade and my new one about the history of the founder and the store and company and will be appearing on the Thanksgiving show and it just happened that one of the producers I worked with actually knows Tony Dow and worked on the A & E show Tony Dow produced wit Billy Gray and Paul Peterson featuring a round table of past and present child stars - point being ya never know maybe someone knows someone and will ask them and maybe they do drop by ya never know!  I might contact the producer I worked with and see if he can put me in touch with Mr D -- or Mr M!  Maybe Brian Ward can ask them???  But as Sean Connery proved by making another Bond film - Never Say Never!!!! 
7/15/2010 8:34 AM
Tom Clark
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Member since: 6/24/2010
RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
You do see Ward and June's room in one episode.  I think it might be the one where Wally throws the party that Beaver sabotages.

I remember June was on the bed (fully dressed, of course), and Ward was standing up.  I think they had a portable television in there.

In episodes where Wally or Beaver have to wake up Ward in the middle of the night, it always seems they come from the left and knock on a door to the right.  Ward always answers putting on a robe, as if he didn't want his boys to see him in his pajamas!  That's so different from the fathers I knew as a boy, who all walked around the house in their underwear.
1/23/2011 6:55 AM
Rodney
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Member since: 12/22/2007
RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
There is a great book by Mark Bennet called TV Sets: Fantasy Blueprints of Classic TV Homes (out of print, unfortunately). Mark dedicates the book to Wally Cleaver!
The first blueprint is the Cleaver's 513 Grant Avenue house, followed by the 211 Pine Street house.
How accurate is it? Well, since there was never a real house, so who knows? But at least it seems pretty close. This is a really fun book to see the blueprints of these family homes: The Andersons, The Stones, the Lanes, the Baxters, the Posts, the Taylors, even the Barkley's of Big Valley, the M*A*S*H compound, and the town of Hooterville are here. In all, forty sitcom homes are recreated in this book.
3/9/2011 2:39 PM
Scottsdaleglenn
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Member since: 3/9/2011
RE: Layout of LITB house does it jive???
Rodney, you are so correct.  It is an awesome book.  It is a must-have for folks like us.  Maybe someone could find one on E-Bay. 
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