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6/1/2010 10:17 AM
thedude7
Member since: 4/27/2009
Shout! Select titles

I am hoping that Shout! Factory has more exclusives planned in the near future.

Mores seasons of California Dreams, Ironside, Mr. Belvedere, My Two Dads, Room 222, Simon & Simon, and Small Wonder.

And perhaps some unfinished series, such as All in the Family, Charlie's Angels, The Jeffersons, or maybe Diff'rent Strokes to honor the late Gary Coleman.

Please try to gain the rights to the shows that Sony FAILED to complete on DVD, and release some of them as exclusives!



thedudey7
6/1/2010 11:30 AM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
We do have some more Select titles coming up.  Don't you worry!

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6/7/2010 5:00 PM
bencasey
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Continuations of previous shows or some new series thrown into the mix?
6/7/2010 6:31 PM
etc041
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RE: Shout! Select titles
what about The Adventures of Superboy for Shout Select  it is just 3 more Seasons to finish an Un-Edit too i hope
----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/1/2010 11:30:22 AM

We do have some more Select titles coming up.  Don't you worry!

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6/7/2010 8:34 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I'd like to see them finish up some shows like Parker Lewis, C.O.P.S., and Jayce & the Wheeled Warriors which all just have only one volume to go rather than picking up new series for DTC.  Picking up new titles only to give them a limited release right off the bat seems odd unless they can get the rights really cheap.
6/12/2010 4:34 PM
TV_Fan
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Just an observation, but many Shout! Select titles just doubled in price on amazon marketplace.  The prices did not change here or on ebay.  I hope this only has something to do with amazon and not a trend in which the select titles are going to be doubled in price.  I don't see that helping sales at all.

Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
6/12/2010 7:57 PM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Oh god, this can't be good. SF could be shooting themselves in the foot, if the prices double on their official website. Please, SF, have some consideration for the people who frequent this site!

----- Original Post -----
by TV_Fan at 6/12/2010 4:34:37 PM

Just an observation, but many Shout! Select titles just doubled in price on amazon marketplace.  The prices did not change here or on ebay.  I hope this only has something to do with amazon and not a trend in which the select titles are going to be doubled in price.  I don't see that helping sales at all.

Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
6/13/2010 6:12 PM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I don't know what that's about. I'm sure it must be an error.

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6/14/2010 2:35 PM
TV_Fan
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RE: Shout! Select titles

It only seems to be amazon.  This is what I saw so far:

1 new from $59.95

MR. BELVEDERE: SEASON FOUR ~ Christopher Hewett, Bob Uecker, Ilene Graff, and Rob Stone (DVD)
2 new from $59.95

1 new from $59.95
My Two Dads - The Complete Second Season, Staci Keanan, Paul Reiser ~ Chad Allen, Dick Butkus, and Vonni Ribisi (DVD - 2010)
1 new from $59.95


Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
6/14/2010 10:17 PM
tazz765
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Just want to mention that the titles are back to normal price (as TV_Fan pointed out in the SW thread).
7/4/2010 5:21 AM
Ian K McLachlan
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RE: Shout! Select titles

Will the Select titles ever end up being sold in stores please?  Many thanks. 

7/5/2010 6:04 PM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Sadly, most of the Shout! Factory Select titles are so because retailers don't want them. They don't think they'll sell enough to warrant buying from us. So, we've decided to provide it to the fans anyway. You can read Gord Lacey's fantastic article all about retailers and their lack of interest in retro titles at his recent TVShowsOnDVD post here: http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Site-News-classic-TV-shows-missing/13991

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7/22/2010 6:06 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I hope Shout! starts releasing more than 1 title a month again (only 1 title in August, July, and May).
7/23/2010 6:40 PM
Disneylvr09
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RE: Shout! Select titles

This might be true in the States but here in Toronto retro titles are readily available. Why can't the Select titles be made available through Amazon and avoid the $28(OUCH!) shipping fee. In the case of Father Knows Best Season Five, It will cost over $80 to order it from your website. Add in the duty and exchange rate and it will be close to $100. The first four seasons cost that much in total.

Looks like I wont be completing this collection anytime soon.

7/24/2010 5:22 PM
Robbie
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Just wanted to say Shout Factory! is easily the best DVD distribution company going today!  It's nice to know that they recognize there is demand for all kinds of classic shows -- and that they don't leave fans high and dry midway through a season set.  I just got the recent Dragnet 1968 set and it's great as always.  The pilot movie is an excellent touch and was incredibly fun to watch!  I'm also looking forward to All in the Family - Season 7 in September after several years of Sony sitting on the rights to it.

My top three wishes right now: 

Dream On - The HBO series, Seasons 3-6

Mama's Family - Seasons 2 (the syndicated versions or not, doesn't matter to me, will just be nice to have them in DVD quality) and the remaining syndicated seasons 3-6.

Swan's Crossing -- A long shot I know, as it was only on TV for three months (65 episodes I believe) in 1992 in syndication, but it's garnered quite a reputation over the years and also gave both Mira Sorvino and Sarah Michelle Gellar their starts in the industry.  It has quite the following online.
8/18/2010 3:30 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I noticed the ebay seller that Shout! works with doesn't have all the titles listed anymore.
8/18/2010 3:34 PM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles

Oh no. What's going here? A bad sign?

Please don't tell me Shout! Select failed.

8/18/2010 4:03 PM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Don't know what that's all about.  We're doing decently with Shout! Factory Select.

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8/18/2010 4:15 PM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Still, I'd like to know why the titles aren't listed by the Ebay seller as of right now.
8/18/2010 4:19 PM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Not sure.  He's not "our" guy, per se.  We just authorize him to sell the items.  He could have them down for any number of reasons, but it's ultimately up to him as to whether or not he has a desire to sell them.

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8/18/2010 6:13 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Some of the titles not listed have done better than some of the titles listed, so I can't quite figure it out.  Also, he used to list pretty much every auction with 5 copies.  Now, he does some with 10, some with 9, some with 2, etc..  The auctions have kind of been weird lately.

----- Original Post -----
by zaxxar at 8/18/2010 3:34:35 PM

Oh no. What's going here? A bad sign?

Please don't tell me Shout! Select failed.



8/18/2010 6:41 PM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
N8 Storm, you sure don't mean "Some of the titles listed have done better than some of the titles not listed"?
8/18/2010 7:36 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Nope.  Although that is a true statement as well depending on what titles you are comparing/talking about. 
8/19/2010 7:51 PM
Yeah_OK
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RE: Shout! Select titles
This is an urgent appeal to Shout Factory.  Please don't keep acquiring titles while you still have titles left hanging out to dry.  Please do not abandon some great shows that you started releasing and then stopped.  We need more Blossom.  We need more Malcolm & Eddie.  We need more American Gladiators.  We need more Mr Belvedere.  We need more Adam 12.  We need more Simon & Simon.  We need more The Paper Chase.  We need more Room 222.  We need more My Two Dads.  We need more animated titles like Jayce & Medabots.  Some of the series I just named have only had 1 season released.  Others have more than one season left to be released.  If they're not selling in stores sell them select.  Please don't abandon these titles.
8/19/2010 8:07 PM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Yeah_OK is correct.

Of the titles he mentioned, the only one I'm interested in is "Mr. Belvedere". I just got season 4, and have plans to get seasons 1-3 in the near future. I didn't get them earlier, because I had other commitments in my life that I wanted to focus on. I will also get seasons 5 and 6 when they come out.

And to all the so-called fans of Belvedere, who are using the economy as an excuse not to buy the sets, please don't. You are only doing this to not only deprive yourselves of the big guy, but also to deprive us of seasons 5 and 6, nothing more.
8/20/2010 8:44 AM
Yeah_OK
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RE: Shout! Select titles
We also need more Spin City.  More Parker Lewis Can't Lose.  C'mon, only one season to go?  Don't drop the ball.  Please finish Adam 12.  Please finish Dragnet.  Please finish Ironside.  Please finish Facts Of Life, Mad About You and All In The Family & Archie Bunker's Place.  Archie Bunkers Place is a continuation of All In The Family.  Please don't let us down Shout Factory.  With all the new series you are acquiring please dont forget the ones thta are hanging and need completetion.
8/20/2010 8:53 AM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Why is it that if we decide to not spend money on finishing titles that have lost us a considerable amount of money, we're the ones letting you down?  How about the legions of fans that haven't bought the sets?  I'd say they're the ones that have let you down.  We took a chance.  And most of the titles you've mentioned haven't sold well enough to get any more releases because they've, in fact, lost money. 

I find it interesting that you'd rather us not pick up additional titles that have proven to be good sellers or have the potential to be good sellers in lieu of finishing titles that have proven to NOT be good sellers. 

You really don't want us in business much longer, do ya'?

Brian

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8/20/2010 9:28 AM
merlin jones
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I'm all for Shout! trying out more fabulous titles from the fabulous 50s and 60s (shows from that era have proven the test of time the best): Batman, Green Acres (seasons 4+), The Donna Reed Show (seasons 4+), The Beverly Hillbillies (seasons 4+), Petticoat Junction (seasons 3+), The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, Nanny and the Professor, Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color (Disneyland, Walt Disney Presents), Shazam!, The Green Hornet, The Bugs Bunny Show, The Herculoids, Frankenstein Jr. and The Impossibles, My Three Sons (with the correct music), Hawaiian Eye, The Flying Nun (season 3), Here Come the Brides (season 2), The Banana Splits, The New Adventures of Huck Finn, It's About Time, The Pruitts of Southhampton, The Paul Lynde Show, My Living Doll, The Ugliest Girl in Town, etc. Thanks you guys for trying so hard where the studios fall short -- and delivering such great shows for posterity.
8/20/2010 10:40 AM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Brian:

Yeah_OK is not trying to get you guys out of business, he just doesn't think it's fair to acquire tons of new titles, but leave other ones hanging in the meantime.

And I agree with him on that. I'll admit that I didn't get seasons 1-3 of "Mr. Belvedere" when I should have, but I'm making up for that mistake now, and I WILL have my credit card ready for seasons 5 and 6 when they come out.

Finally, you hinted in another thread that "Mr. Belvedere" wasn't being completely abandoned. Don't contradict yourself, Brian.
8/20/2010 11:30 AM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I'm not contradicting myself at all.  Per my previous post, I said "most" of the titles he mentioned haven't sold well.

Regardless, when the fans have abandoned the DVDs, we have no choice but to do the same.  We cannot spend money on something that doesn't make money just to fulfill the collections of a handful of fans.  We love the shows.  There's a reason why we picked them up.  But we can't stay in business AND throw money at projects that don't make money.  It can't work that way.

So we acquire other titles that DO sell or at least have a high potential sales.  Fans should be grateful for this, because by making money with other titles, there comes the possibility of being able to release other titles that don't make nearly as much.  Kinda like when a big Hollywood star makes a giant summer blockbuster and follows it up with a personal indie movie.  We can afford to be a little more frivolous, when our other titles are making money.  That means acquiring more.

Brian

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8/20/2010 11:33 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: Shout! Select titles

I'm sorry but I have to step in and get Brian's back. He's a true classic tv fan and has done much more for us tv fans than any other studio out there. Sony, Warner, Universal...they've all abandoned shows after only a single season. I'd say Shout has given many shows more than their fair chance at redeeming themselves on dvd. "Father Knows Best: Season 5" was just released through Shout! Select and you should have heard the moaning going on over the price tag. Shout! Select is an exclusive deal for us fans. The price is what it is to support that exclusive product. Otherwise, we would get nothing. You would still be waiting around if Sony had even attempted to release Season 1.

I, for one, have picked up each and every title of interest and subsequent seasons on the day of release or pre-ordered. So I've always supported titles that I was interested in. If you can't do that, don't blame Shout or Brian for not driving to your house and hand delivering a free dvd-set. It is up to you to buy it. That's how it works. If not enough people buy it, then of course, they will think before releasing an additional season. Would you want to take your money and throw it away with nothing to show for it. Be honest.

I want Shout to continue giving us such high-quality dvds of our favorite shows. No one else is doing it. And ya ain't gonna get it from other studios. So give the boys (and girls) at Shout some credit. That's all.

8/20/2010 11:45 AM
zaxxar
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RE: Shout! Select titles
You know what Brian? You do have a good point with what you said in your last paragraph. I wonder if that would also explain how you guys were able to finish Punky Brewster after a long wait in between seasons 2 and 3, and then another one in between seasons 3 and 4?
8/20/2010 12:05 PM
thedude7
Member since: 4/27/2009
RE: Shout! Select titles

Most of your Shout! Select titles could have sold good, if people could just give them a chance!

People really to be informed that Shout! Select titles can only be bought at Shout! Factory's website.

I hope 2011 will be a better year for releases and Exclusives!



thedudey7
8/20/2010 12:33 PM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Zaxxar, Punky Brewster was slightly different.  That was a case where a studio only agreed to license us the first two seasons.  Once those sold--and sold well--we started negotiating for the additional seasons.  So there was a little time in between releases, but only because we still had to acquire the remainder of the seasons.  This is fairly common.  In fact, there may be shows that you're waiting on right now that we're in the process of acquiring additional seasons for, but because those negotiations are ongoing, I can't reveal them.

Still, there have been other titles where we've waited to score a hit before releasing them.  One good example, for instance, could be Ironside.  This is a series we love and enjoy releasing them.  They sell, but not well enough to make them no-brainers for further releases.  But when we had hits with, say, Transformers and G.I. Joe last year, it opened up an opportunity to spend a little bit on titles that we love but aren't expecting gigantic hits with.  We can continue to do that, as we are with the upcoming Ironside S4 set, until it starts getting too cost prohibitive again.  But this requires acquiring additional titles from studios that become slamdunk successes for us.  The more success we have with titles like Transformers and G.I. Joe, the more we can afford to take risks on our passion projects.

Fingers crossed!  Hope that makes sense!

TheDude7, the good news is that people can purchase our Shout! Factory Select titles on Amazon and usually on eBay, too.  So that makes it a little more convenient for fans!

Brian

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8/20/2010 1:44 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
I hope this means C.O.P.S. gets a Volume 3 to finish it off.  When I've looked at ebay and amazon over the months, Volume 2 seems to be doing better than a nice amount of other Select titles.  I believe Volume 1 of C.O.P.S. was the first DVD set you ever produced if I remember you correctly...so it would be nice to get the first series you worked on finished. 
8/20/2010 2:07 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles

I also think Transformers and G.I. Joe would like to help their Hasbro brother and fellow 80s cartoon C.O.P.S. out with a Volume 3 (Larry Hama wrote the C.O.P.S. toyline filecards and Beach Head's son is in the line/cartoon).   

 

It looks like the ebay seller just relisted C.O.P.S. and some other Select titles.

8/21/2010 5:02 AM
Robbie
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Just one question regarding "All in the Family" -- Is it known yet whether there will be releases of Season 8 and 9?  I pre-ordered Season 7 through Amazon and am looking forward to finishing off the series, so hopefully pre-orders and sales on this classic show will be strong.
8/21/2010 5:19 AM
TV_Fan
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RE: Shout! Select titles

Although I don't agree with everything "Yeah OK" is saying, I understand where he is coming from.  As a fan, I want to be able to collect all seasons of the shows in my collection that I want to own.  It's frustrating when all seasons are not released.  When the company releasing the shows seems to start releasing other shows and "forgetting" about the "abadoned" shows its frustrating to say the least.  However, from a business perspective it makes perfect sense to not release something that doesn't sell.  No logical and rational person can expect a company to continually release products that don't sell. Said company would not stay in business long, and no sets of any show would be released by that company.

 What Brian said is encouraging.  If Shout! does well on better selling shows, they will be willing to "spend frivolously" on lesser selling shows.  I think it's pretty obvious this already happenned with shows like COPS, The Bill Cosby Show, Bump In The Night and  Sawmp Thing.  Some of those shows sat years in limbo between their next releases.  What other company besides Shout! would go out of their way and try something new to get them out?

The only shows I'm concerned about now are Mr Belvedere, My Two Dads and Small Wonder.  Mr Belvedere is the Shout! title I am most interested in seeing completed.  If there is any way to release the final two seasons I know Shout! Factory will find a way.  There's obviously fan interest (however small it may be ) and hopefully Shout! "loves" it enough to complete it.  With only one more season of My Two Dads, I'm hoping that's another show to be finished off.  Keep up the good work Shout!

 



Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
8/22/2010 9:00 PM
trust the fungus
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RE: Shout! Select titles
How about pole position? There are only 13 episodes so you could fit the whole series on 2 discs. The UK got that show on DVD so why can't we?

You Don't give me enough credit jullian! -snivley, the doomsday project
8/31/2010 3:43 AM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Any reason why there has been only one title coming out a month lately after having a nice amount at first?  Is it because you guys don't want shows to compete too much against each other?  If that is the case, I'd recommend having different genres come out on the same day.  For example, releasing Rhoda (70s sitcom), Parker Lewis (90s sitcom), and C.O.P.S. (80s cartoon) on the same day.
8/31/2010 8:45 AM
B Ward
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RE: Shout! Select titles
The releasing strategy is less about like-genre competition and more about scheduling and production.  Generally, it takes us the same amount of time to produce the Shout! Select titles as it does any other box set.  The first couple of waves that were released were produced with the knowledge that we'd be releasing a bunch of titles directly to the consumers, so we produced them and banked them.  Now, they're rolled into our regular production schedules.  So while I'm producing Greek and Dark Skies and the various Marvel titles, I'm also producing a set or two for Shout! Factory Select.  That's really all there is to it.  It's just about time; not so much about a lack of interest, etc.

Brian

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8/31/2010 10:35 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: Shout! Select titles
This may or may not be an obvious question but I thought I'd ask anyway... Is Season 6 of Father Knows Best pretty much a given Shout Select title in the future?

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 8/31/2010 8:45:40 AM

The releasing strategy is less about like-genre competition and more about scheduling and production.  Generally, it takes us the same amount of time to produce the Shout! Select titles as it does any other box set.  The first couple of waves that were released were produced with the knowledge that we'd be releasing a bunch of titles directly to the consumers, so we produced them and banked them.  Now, they're rolled into our regular production schedules.  So while I'm producing Greek and Dark Skies and the various Marvel titles, I'm also producing a set or two for Shout! Factory Select.  That's really all there is to it.  It's just about time; not so much about a lack of interest, etc.

Brian

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8/31/2010 2:07 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: Shout! Select titles
With Warner Archive expected to up production of animated titles some time in 2011, I'd release C.O.P.S. Volume 3 sooner than later.  I'd also like to see Parker Lewis and Jayce completed via Shout! Select, but C.O.P.S. is my number 1 want.
7/30/2011 4:55 AM
nicola
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RE: Shout! Select titles
Hey does anyone know if California Dreams season 5 will be available as a shout! select title. Would love to finish my collection! Thanks!
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