Yaay!  I'm always into it.  Here goes...

403 - City Limits

422 - The Day the Earth Froze

618 - High School Big Shot

1007 - Track of the Moonbeast

First Prediction:

323 – The Castle of Fu-Manchu

502 – Hercules

605 – Colossus and the Headhunters

1007 – Track of the Moon Beast

Second Prediction:

111 – Moon Zero Two

305 – Stranded in Space

617 – The Sword and the Dragon

819 – Invasion of the Neptune Men

Dream Set:

111 – Moon Zero Two

502 – Hercules

814 – Riding With Death

903 – Puma Man

I'm alittle late to the "guess the next set" forum, but better late than never! I like several of the guesses already made, in fact High School Big Shot, The Day the Earth Froze and Horror of Party Beach were among the first guesses in my mind, but I'll be original and create my own predictions...

108 The Slime People - after a brief departure from MST's first (official) season, look for Shout! to return to S1 to help get these early releases available. As with most eps from this season, I've never seen this one, so I'm hoping SF will get to it soon.

205 Rocket Attack USA - another early Joel ep finally makes it to dvd! One of my personal faves from S2, I'm very suprised that this hasn't been released sooner.  Great riffing and host segments, and marks the first ep to include a stinger: ("Help me!", anyone?) And who can forget Art Metrano's burning tie at the end?

611 Last of the Wild Horses - Although I'm not the biggest fan of this one (mostly due to sub-par riffing imo), it does have the famous "switcheroo" theme that definitely made it stand out.  The fact that Lippert movies now seem like fair game to be released also helped this title's chances. Which leads to my last prediction whose episode has a similar theme:

913 Quest of the Delta Knights - As with S1, I think Shout! Factory wants to get as many titles from the Sci-Fi era out as possible. Again imo, the riffing on this ep is better than LotWH, and with Pearl in the theater helps give it a certain distinguishing quality to it. I feel that this ep is often overlooked because of stronger eps from the same season (Puma Man, Werewolf, Hobgoblins, Final Sacrifice).

Other than Volume XVI, where I correctly guessed two of the four titles, I have not had success with this either. But the whole point is to have fun with this, see what other people think, and look back several months later at your guess and say to yourself: "Wow! Was I way off on that!"  At least that's what I do.

It occurred to me that there are some titles that never seem to get mentioned whenever we try to guess the next boxed set.  I think it'd be cool if the next boxed set contained...

Robot Holocaust

Attack of the Eye Creatures

Teen-age Crime Wave

The Amazing Transparent Man

One ep I'd love to see is "Girl's Town" but I bet the music rights would be a real nightmare.

Good Question. I'm not sure, Travis might have a better idea than me. I imagine they could be purchased through both but they would probably want to go through Lionsgate because they own a few titles that Arkoff doesn't.

Lionsgate does not own any of the Hart-Nicholson library. Since her husband's passing, Sue Hart has never Liscenced her films for distribution to anyone. Some say it's because she wants far to much money, others say it's because she has so much money that she simply has no interest liscencing the films.

I'm gonna guess that the one you've got right this time is "Devil Doll."

I'm actually really curious if Shout has ever tried to contact Ms. Hart.  Would she take their calls?  Would she want major money, perhaps would she be willing to do an interview for the DVD so we could hear her side and get to know her.

Indoamericana Film Ltd has the copyright to Puma Man. Cinema Shares originally distributed PUMA MAN in the U.S. I'm not sure what happened to Cinema Share's catalog, or if the film reverted back to it's original rights holders. It was released on VHS in the 80's by Prism Entertainment [who went out of business in the 90's, did they sell their library or did most of the titles simply revert back to their original owners?], there was also one by Parade Video, and Amazon lists another by Peter Pan Home Video.

That's all I've got on PUMA MAN at the moment.

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by mystiefreak at 3/18/2010 7:31:10 PM

If we could track down who had the rights when the VHS tape was licensed, maybe we could put out a full page newspaper add in the area where the rights owner was known to have been living at the time.  The library of congress would have alot of that info, but they charge for it.

Volume 19 short wish list for me:

- Robot Monster
- Jungle Goddess (or any season two Lippert movie on top of getting Lost Continent in volume 18)
- Hercules (with Steve Reeves) or Hercules And The Captive Women
- Fire Maidens Of Outer Space

LOST CONTINENT is coming [most likely] from Corinth Films, so it's one of the few Lippert films not part of the Kit Parker/Warner split-distribution situation. But we'll have to wait and see for sure. 

My Dream List...

Set XIX

• 422: The Day The Earth Froze
• 508: Operation Double 007
• 524: 12 To The Moon
• 620: Danger!  Death Ray

SERIES XX

• 310: Fugitive Alien
• 418: Attack of the Eye Creatures
• 520: Radar Secret Service
• 608: Code Name: Diamond Head

If this was the release list then I would be a happy, happy man. :)

I think Episode 111 (Moon Zero Two) is a very overlooked episode.  And it's one of my favorites.

Does anyone know how hard it would be to get the rights to it (it's a Hammer film)?

Other than that, my top picks at the moment are The Day the Earth Froze, the Pumaman and the Brute Man.

I actually did guess correctly with 415 - Beatniks for vol. XVII, and with 417 - Crash of the Moons being on vol. XVIII, so I guess I'll finally stop lurking and submit my guesses for Vol. XIX

323 - Castle of Fu Manchu

510 - The Painted Hills

610 - The Violent Years

817 - Horror of Party Beach

Well Brian, the formula I go with is like this:

1. 2 Joel episodes/2 Mike episodes per Shout Factory's preference

2. Liklihood of release for each remaining unreleased episode. (I've used Travis H's list as reference for this.)

3. Wide popularity of specific episodes mentioned by fans on these fora (Final Sacrifice, Jack Frost are two such crowd-pleasers)

4. In the case of guessing episodes for Vol. XVII, I noticed that the Season 1 episodes with the 'Commando Cody/Radar Men' short were in near consecutive order.  So I figured that The Beatniks being a likely title to begin with would be released before Crash of the Moons (another likely release) because of the short 'General Hospital-segment 2', and then I guessed Crash of the Moons for XVIII since that contained 'General Hospital-segment 3' (again, the shorts were released in consecutive numerical order, like the Season 1 shorts thus far.)

But I have to admit--now that The Beatniks and Crash of the Moons are released/nearly released, it's going to be tougher for me to guess from here on out.  I just wish I joined this community earlier and submitted my guesses for Vols. XVII and XVIII since I don't have any proof to show that I correctly guessed two episodes so far!   

I'm enjoying the antici......

pation.  I'm gonna guess a setful of movies nobody seems ever to ask for, but I'd really enjoy...

Ep 318:  Starforce: Fugitive Alien II 

Ep 420:  The Human Duplicators

Ep. 524:  12 to the Moon (Sinister Cinema has that one in its catalogue, so perhaps the rights to it aren't out of reach)

Ep. 705:  Escape 2000 ('cause we need more season 7)

Or, maybe they could go for "Kitten With a Whip," Since Universal is only releasing this as a DVD-R - maybe it would be a little easier to buy the rights to it - they don't seem to value it enough to give it a regular DVD release...?

Not a bad set of suggestions, but I'd much rather have the first Fugitive Alien out first.  Kitten with a Whip would be a good choice too--for me, the movie itself wasn't all that bad but it still met enough criteria to make it on the show.

I'm curious if there'll be at least one movie in the next set that'll have a "Wow!" factor - like "I can't believe they got the rights to THAT movie..."  They've had one on pretty much each set they've released.  Their first released had season 7's "Laserblast," the next had the reunion ep "Soultaker," then there was "Zombie Nightmare" on set 15, "Night of the Bloodbeast" BOTH versions along with "Santa Claus" on 16.  and of course "The Final Sacrifice" on 17 - now the new set's got the Lippert film "Lost Continent" and the first DVD release of one of the Russo-Finish romps, "Jack Frost."  I wonder if the next set'll be a "get up outa your seat" Wow, or a "hey, that's pretty cool" Wow.  I wonder which "Wow" movie will be on the next set.

Well you got to figure they probably released atleast one Corinth film. Jack Frost suggests that shout has the rights to the Rusko library. Horror of party beach is the highest on the list of desired eps to be released (Not including Pumaman, Whose rights remain a mystery, and Diabolik which paramount would never liscence). And atleast one PD episode so My Guess

107-Robot Monster

422-Sampo

618- High School Big Shot or 605 Collosus and the headhunters

817- Horror of Party Beach

The fact that any MST3K episodes are being put out is good enough for me, I'm happy with any of the episodes on DVD.

That being said, its been awesome to be able to replace my old VHS copies that I taped off TV with brand new quality DVDs.  I got into MST3K during the last season and haven't really seen any of the older episodes except for what's on the DVD releases, so when I get the new sets, they are always first time viewings.  I know everyone has been guessing four specific titles but just wanted to throw out the episodes I have left to replace and would love to see released as farfetched as they might be. (All are from the last three seasons.)

818 - Devil Doll

819 - Invasion of the Neptune Men

903 - Puma Man (My all time favorite)

911 - Devil Fish

913 - Quest of the Delta Knights

1013 - Diabolik

I know I'm a little late here, but I decided to put in my guesses before it's too late, so here goes nothin',

201:Rocketship X-M- Because they seem to have gotten the rights to the Lippert films, and this seems to be the next logical choice.

502:Hercules- Because it's public domain I believe, and Shout factory usually gets an earlier Joel and a later Joel, so why not this one?

610:The Violent Years- Also public domain, and an easy to get Mike episode.

819:(Or whatever number Invasian of the Neptune Men is) again I' pretty sure it's PD, and it fills the spot for a Sci fi episode.

I would like to See

210- King dinosaur- never seen it

505- Magic Voyage of Sinbad

610- The Violent Years

1007- Track of the Moonbeast

I just have a quick question.  Do you think its even remotely believable to think that its possible that all the episodes could be released eventually down the road?  I've always been interested to know which episodes have proven to be virtually impossible to obtain rights to.

We should have a contest to see who can comes closest to guessing the titles on the next set. The winner should get a prize like a dollar off their next purchase and a friendly handshake.

Hey guys, been lurking for a few months so I figured I'd sign up and post my predictions.

First off, assuming Shout's relationship with Corinth films is still rocking, either 107 - Robot Monster or 109 - Project Moonbase is likely.  I'm going to go with Robot Monster, since that's the more popular choice.  Bride of the Monster could also be on the table, but the possible PD status of that film may push it off temporarily, so I'll leave that off for now.

As derided as 323 - Castle of Fu Manchu is, there's likely some pressure to release more 3rd season eps, so I'll add that one.

With Jack Frost out, 617 - The Sword and the Dragon is a definite possibility.

And given that it's highly ranked and seemingly highly available, 817 - Horror of Party Beach would round the set out fairly well.

Anyway, those are my opinions, and Mr. Ward has probably got a surprise or two up his sleeve.  Can't wait until Comic-con!

This topic is just TOO addicting so I created an account to chime in. I took a bit of a scientific approach and noticed certain thing about past Shout! box sets. For instance, they like to keep them as diverse as possible; equal hosts, not too many shows from one season, not too many shows from one "era", not too many "easy targets", and they also don't make any one set "too good" or "too bad" based on the Mstie community's feelings. Sure, there are some shows that are untouchable, like Gamera and Final Sacrifice (dramatic pause), so if I have some "untouchables" in my list, deal with it.

Oh, and when I say this is "my" list, I really mean that I wrote a program, fed it certain restrictions, and this is what came out. That being said, it makes the results even more interesting since many of them have listed above already.

107: Robot Monster (I have a REALLY good feeling about this one)
1007: Track of the Moon Beast ---OR--- 913: Quest of the Delta Knights (ditto for these)
And then any two of these:
817: Horror of Party Beach
618: High School Big Shot
602: Invasion USA
502: Hercules
403: City Limits
420: Human Duplicators

422: Day the Earth Froze or 505: Magic Voyage of Sinbad is on my list for set 20 or 21 because I just don't think Shout! would release two Russo-Finnish films back-to-back. Personally, I hope I'm wrong!

Brian-
 For "Robot Monster", it appears in the Mill Creek Ent. box-o-movies Sci-Fi collection, so I assume that getting it would be easy, and it's the most popular show from Season One among Msties so there's a good "pull" for it. "Moonbeast" is the exact same way. And based on all the episodes that aren't on DVD yet, these "fit well" into most remaining combinations. For the other shows I picked, my magical program said so!

Of course, others had "feelings" about RM and Moonbeast even before I applied my reasoning, so seeing both of those movies come out in the lead after I was done either means I was influenced by previous reasoning, or there are greater forces at work here...

GT

Yeah, it's a popular episode and it's from a popular era of the show. The ONLY reason I can think of for it not being DVD'd yet is because there have already been 14 eps from Season 5 released and Shout is trying to spread things out.

Or perhaps Shout is working on some sort of "Heroes" set with Herc, Colossus, Neo (Robot Holocaust), and Puma Man. That would be SWEET!

Yes. In fact, a bunch of movies from the first few box sets came on double-sided discs. It's a feature that didn't continue, probably because it got too expensive to make the double-sided discs. It would also seem that getting the rights to a movie with scenes missing is different than getting rights to the whole thing. Perhaps there's some pro-rate thing. MINUTES-USED * RATE = LICENSING-FEE.

And then perhaps add a MST3K-MADE-FUN-OF-MY-AWESOME-MOVIE-FEE.

Alright so we're in the 11th hour before the announcement of the new episodes so I'm take a crack at this.  My guesses for Volume XIX are:

107: Robot Monster

422: The Day The Earth Froze

819: Invasion Of The Neptune Men

1007: Track Of The Moon Beast

Hopefully I can get at least one right.

Not to discount the "DVD Likelihood" list at all (it was certainly the product of a TON of research, which I applaud), but keep in mind that "Night of the Bloodbeast", "Warrior of the Lost World", "Final Sacrifice", "Crawling Eye", "Aztec Mummy", "Lost Continent" and others were listed as "Not Likely" or worse and have all been released on DVD.

That's the magic of Shout!

Robot Monster

Bride of the Monster

Devil Doll

Devil Fish

Thats your Volume 19 ladies and gents and I finally got ONE right hooray :)

Oh there is a Gypsy figure included in this set as well...

Oh I love this set already !! :)

Hey I got one right!

Howd you find out by the way?

LOL Man I was WAY OFF!!!    But it's certainly a worthy set; I'd say that "Devil Fish" was probably the surprise title SF landed, I wasn't expecting that one for awhile.  I wasn't surprised to see that a Gypsy figure was to be included, since that's the pattern SF has taken....since picking up the show in '08, the holiday releases have included a figure.

What I like to do is guess what Steve Vance will draw for the mini-posters.  Having a theme of sorts for this set (Sampo on Satellite News aptly noted that there was a "monsters and devils" theme going due to the titles), that might make Vance's inspirations alittle easier this time around.  Robot Monster will have Ro-Man chasing Crow and Servo, Bride of the Monster might have a fake Bela Lugosi carrying a woman towards a large mushroom cloud with C & T.S. watching in horror, Devil Doll will have Hugo looking menacing over Crow & Servo's shoulders, and Devil Fish may include an image of Servo and Crow fishing with a mean-looking fish lurking just underneath them. (Although a pic of C & TS looking up in horror at the guy climbing a ladder would be hysterical...implying that they were seeing the dude with his "junk" hanging out!) For me, wondering what will be on those posters is almost as fun as waiting for the next titles.

They made the announcement?  It's not even on the Satellite News yet - is this for sure?

Ooops, my mistake - there it was, right above the Gamera vs. Thingamajig - musta been distracted by the pretty purple color of the screengrab.

Hey Mr. Hamhat!  Lookit that - another set where you got one right, and I was right about which one you were gonna be right about!  Wow, 'n stuff!!!

Hey - and Peaky got two right!  He guessed half the set!

I see whatcher sayin'.  I meant on Peaky's second post of guesses, just a little further down - he guessed Bride of the Monster and Devil Fish for vol. 19