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2/12/2010 4:42 PM
mystiefreak
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Gamera!

Hey there Shout!  Awesome news I just read on DVD Drive-In about the impending release of the unedited, special edition original "Gamera- The Giant Monster" on DVD in its original Japanese with subtitles!  Will you be working with the Daie people on Special Editions of the rest of the series and ... aawwww heck - I really just wanna know if this means that maybe there's a glimmer of light at the end of the MST-Gamera tunnel?

2/12/2010 5:58 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
I am hard at work on these.  But, no.  There's no glimmer re: MST3K.  The Japanese just aren't into their man-in-suit flicks being parodied or mocked in any way. 

Expect special editions, though!

Brian

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2/12/2010 6:17 PM
Nick Zbu
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RE: Gamera!
Nice!  Does this extend to various other Japanese movies, or just Toei's monster films?  While I understand why they're not available for MST3K, I wouldn't mind seeing some stuff like Mighty Jack or Time of the Apes.
2/12/2010 8:41 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
This was GREAT news !
Im shocked no one has come on here and asked that annoying question that comes with every DVD release
*holding nose* "Is it coming on Blu Ray ?!?!!?!??!??!!? "

DMS
2/13/2010 2:34 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!

I've got an old VHS tape of "Time of the Apes" and agree that it'd be lots of fun to see it on DVD too.  But that's not even the same company, is it?  Then again, maybe someone at Daie knows a guy who knows a guy...

 

...say, how 'bout including the MST ep as an "extra" on the Special Edition...  I know, I know - I can dream.

2/13/2010 4:31 PM
stush75
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RE: Gamera!
Would this be an amazing way to get around everything?! If only it were that easy...

----- Original Post -----
by mystiefreak at 2/13/2010 2:34:35 PM
 

...say, how 'bout including the MST ep as an "extra" on the Special Edition...  I know, I know - I can dream.

 

2/13/2010 6:43 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
My friend August Ragone is doing an audio commentary track on the DVD --cool news !!

DMS
2/16/2010 7:26 PM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!
Sweet . . . My favorite early Gamera flick has always been Gamera vs. Baragon. I still have a Japanese bootleg of it. Very good quality, too. Anamorphic widescreen and everything.
2/16/2010 9:24 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
I was just remembering what an awesome job Classic Media did releasing all (most) of the Godzilla series (excepting, of course, Godzilla vs. Megalon, which still awaits a decent DVD release... hint hint...) and wondered when and who might do that for the Gamera films.  I even wrote to Classic Media and asked them to consider it (no response, of course).  So Shout!  Thanks for this, sincerely and seriously.  There are no words.
2/16/2010 10:51 PM
K3TSM
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RE: Gamera!
STRANGE...I downloaded the Episode list for MST3K last night, and saw that, except for PRINCE OF SPACE, nothing has ever been done with the Japanese Horror films. Then, I saw SEASON 3 (which only has 4 experiments available), and saw that all the GAMERA shows were done that year...same films repeated from the KTMA years. I thought, "Why wont SHOUT release any Japanese Experiments?" So, just as I thought, it was a problem with Japan. I hope that SOME will be available at some point.
2/17/2010 7:47 AM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Gamera vs Barugon comes out in July from Shout Factory

DMS
2/17/2010 2:20 PM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

Thanks for the info, dsman71.

Man, July is gonna be an expensive month.

2/17/2010 8:14 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
For me its August

DMS
2/17/2010 9:56 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
What's August?
2/17/2010 10:20 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
The 8th month in the year :)
Seriously actually thats the month the Roger Corman titles I want come out
Humanoids from the Deep
Piranha
Demon of Paradise

July for me is Gamera vs Barugon and Attack of the Crab Monsters/Not of this Earth

DMS
2/18/2010 8:32 AM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

Jesus, I forgot about August! That's right I plan on getting HUMANOIDS FROM THE DEEP and PIRANHA, too.

I'm hoping to pre-order those two next month. Just to break up the financial burden of July's FORBIDDEN WORLD, GALAXY OF TERROR and GAMERA VS BARUGON's acquisitions. Even though they were postponed from their April date, CD Universe still has them up for pre-order. I noticed the price went up on them, too. They were $14.75 a pop, now their $16 bucks, or so.

Here are the links, in case anyone else feels the need to pre-order them:

Humanoids From The Deep: www.cduniverse.com/sresult.asp

Piranha: www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp

Oh, yeah, one more thing---does Shout have access to that Gamera trilogy from the 90s? I still have the ADV releases, unfortunately, they're not anamorphic. It would be nice to have them on upgraded discs.

2/18/2010 8:09 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
Holy CRAP!!! (In a good way)  I didn't know about "Attack of the Crab Monsters" & "Not of This Earth!"  I have that really crappy (in a bad way) DVD of "Attack of the Crab Monsters" that came out years ago, and as a huge Beverly Garland fan I've been waiting forever for "Not of This Earth!"  Avert your eyes everyone - I'm doin' the happy dance!!!
2/18/2010 10:15 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
All the Corman titles scheduled for this month which was to be Piranha are ALL moved to August because they are getting more bonus features and looking to make the best transfers possible.
Demon of Paradise is being paired with Up From the Depths.
I was upset that they wont be out until August - do not believe any website
They were available from Amazon & my pre-orders have been pushed back or their pages were removed..
I dont think CD Universe will have them in April either
Yes this July the Crab Monsters is on a double bill with Not of this Earth 1957 :)

DMS
2/19/2010 8:40 AM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

I know CD Universe won't have them in April, but I'm sure you can pre-order them for their August release anyway, which is what I intend to do next month, given the state of my finances. Otherwise, I'm looking at a close to, maybe, even over, a hundred dollar order. Attack Of The Crab Monsters in another fave of mine, unfortunately, with all those other flicks I've mentioned, it's not a priority to acquire just yet. 

Did you know Sony is re-issuing there Piranha II: The Spawning DVD in April?

I'll buy it if they letterbox it this time.

2/19/2010 11:26 AM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
I'm a fan of the first one 'cause I love Barbara Steele.
2/19/2010 4:34 PM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

Dude, how can you NOT love the concept of flying piranha?! I'm cracking myself up even as I write this . . .

Flying piranha!

Oh, God . . . the mind reels.

Must stop . . . insides hurt . . . feel like I'm gonna pa--- 

____________________________________________________________________________

Does this schedule look right, found it on another site:

May 4 – Rock’n’Roll High School DVD & BD
May 4 – Suburbia DVD
June 22 – Death Race 2000 DVD & BD
June 22 – Warlords of the 21st Century and Death Sport (double feature DVD presentation)
July 20 – Forbidden World DVD
July 20 – Galaxy of Terror DVD
July 20 – Attack of the Crab Monsters and Not of This Earth (double feature DVD presentation)
Aug 3 – Piranha DVD & BD
Aug 3 – Humanoids from Deep DVD
Aug 3 – Up from the Depths and Demon of Paradise (double feature DVD presentation)
Sept 7 – Starcrash DVD and BD
Sept 7 – Battle Beyond the Stars
Sept 28 – Not of This Earth (1978) DVD
Sept 28 – Time Walker and Death Space DVD (double feature DVD presentation

I found what I can only assume are a few typos in the above schedule, correct me if I'm wrong, though:

Not Of This Earth (1978), I think, the date for that one should read, (1988), which means that's the one with Traci Lords. If memory serves, the '88 version was pretty good. It was also remade again in 1995, though, I can't recall anything about it, only that Michael York was in it.

Time Walker and Death Space double feature. As far as I can tell there is no Corman flick called, Death Space. I think they meant to write Dead Space, which was a 1991 remake of Forbidden World. It starred Marc Singer, and, unfortunately, I can recall that one. It pretty much sucked, and I remember wanting to see it simply because it was a remake of Forbidden World. If you're a fan of the original, and haven't seen this version, you're not missing anything. I was just on IMDB. com, and, even though, I personally don't remember, a reviewer states its a shot-for-shot remake. But, what I do remember was the gore, and that soft core porn vibe the first one had when the sex scenes kicked in, were pretty much nonexistant. And the creature was quite lame, too.

2/19/2010 10:28 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Time Walker is actually the MST3K Episode Being From Another Planet if I am not mistaken.. Dead Space is the correct title
The schedule looks about right
But they have FIFTY titles-thats just a handful
And Synapse Films (Don May) has a HUGE announcement thats been due for a long while now..hes got some big time movie titles too..

DMS
2/20/2010 8:31 AM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

You talkn' fifty Corman titles?!

Is Screamers in there somewhere? Even though I like Island Of The Fish Men, I prefer that creepy prologue Corman put in his truncated version of it.

2/21/2010 10:40 AM
BtaraKtahn
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RE: Gamera!
Thanks for the info, guys!  I do SOOOO need to add this collection as it comes out.

Don't ask me what I think of you; I might not give the answer that you want me to. - Fleetwood Mac,"Oh Well"
2/21/2010 7:45 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
So... getting back to Gamera - I imagine Gamera vs. Zigra's gonna be quite a ways down the road - that (I think) is the only one that's never been out over here on DVD?
2/21/2010 9:16 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
No its never been on DVD , but I will STRONGLY suggest you look for the Neptune Video VHS of it - its a great letterboxed transfer with English dubbing that beats both AIP and the Sandy Frank version
That being said Zigra WILL come out last but it will come out on DVD. All the Showa Gamera movies are coming out from Shout one at a time & I guess a box set at the end..

DMS
2/22/2010 8:19 AM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!
We did happen to get way off track with this thread. Explain what you mean by the Showa Gamera movies, not familair with that term. Does it involve that Gamera trilogy from the 90s? Gamera vs. Monster X is my only other fave from that early era. I generally can't stand watching subtitled flicks but when it comes to those Barugon and Monster X films, it doesn't bother me in the least. The American versions of those two were butchered anyhow. I still have a fond memory of watching War Of The Monsters (aka Gamera vs. Barugon) when I was a kid. It was in the winter, during a snowstorm, and schooll had let out early. Saw it on the what they called The 4:30 Movie. Good times, indeed.
2/22/2010 10:59 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
Much as I want the Gameras, I think I'll wait and get them all in a boxed set - if that's happening, I like "collections."  The could call it a box turtle.
2/22/2010 11:28 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
The Showa Gamera is Gamera from the 1960s..Basically Gamera to Gamera vs. Zigra (which was the last of the first series ending in 1971) It includes Monster X aka Jiger..
These Gamera titles will be English subbed, possibly dubbed depending if they can get a-hold of the dubs..but you will get the complete uncut versions..
It doesnt include the 1990s that is the Heisei series..
The box set is a possibility depending on sales seperately...Ill get the box too via trade of the singles..but the box is only a possibility (more probable)

DMS
2/23/2010 8:21 AM
Shawn
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RE: Gamera!

As long as Shout puts the Japanese uncut versions on, I'll buy the Barugona nd Jiger dvds.

4/10/2010 12:48 PM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!

So I guess UCLA is going to sit on the Americanized version of Gamera instead of letting Shout Factory release it on DVD (they wanted too much money).  I can't believe that - hiding it away in a vault is a better choice than allowing it to be digitized so that the movie's fans can finally enjoy it is a better choice?  How much money does UCLA really need?  I hope UCLA doesn't own the rest of the Americanized titles.

4/12/2010 3:55 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
Mystiefreak, it's a swell idea, but as of now, there are no intentions of releasing the Gamera films in one big collection. Wouldn't want folks buying 'em, only to then have to buy them all again.

Brian

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4/13/2010 10:58 AM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!

Thanks, Mr. B.

D'ya see any hurdles in upcoming Gamera releases in regards to Americanized versions?

Thanks!

4/13/2010 12:57 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
Workin' on it.  I'll let ya' know!

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4/13/2010 8:20 PM
Scorpio
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RE: Gamera!
Brian,

It's great to see the Gamera films finally coming to DVD and getting any love at all; however, it is a shame that Blu-ray's are also not being simultaneously released, especially if these are being made from Hi-Def masters. I appreciate the work Shout! does to bring cult releases out, and realize that the costs for producing Blu's does go up (something I'd happily pay more for in a release), but there are some of us who would rather hold out for this. For me personally, I find it hard to justify spending money on new DVD releases when a superior format co-exists. Since Shout! has already released some Blu's, and with even a G.I. Joe animated film coming to the format, I hope in the future that Gamera receives the same kind of treatment. I'd gladly pick them all up. With other announcements today by competing companies regarding some much sought after British faves coming to Blu, I really hope this will get the ball rolling for the sake of fandom and profitability.

Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to the G.I. Joe Blu.
4/14/2010 5:43 AM
TomServo
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RE: Gamera!

Personally, I think ordinary DVD is more than sufficient for films like "Gamera". Gamera is fun, but it's hardly a cinematic masterpiece. Kevin Murphy wrote an interesting and entertaining piece a few years ago slamming the whole BluRay and HDDVD format business, pointing out at the time that the quality of "ordinary" DVDs is amazing and that the newer formats were clearly attempts to get people to spend a whole lot more money for only a small improvement in quality.

In spite of the drop in the price of BluRay players I still don't own one and continue to purchase regular DVDs. The cost of the BluRay player may have dropped but the cost of the discs is still outrageous. I really have no interest in going back to paying the kind of money per movie that we all paid when home video was in its infancy years ago. Regular DVD is good enough for the MST3K releases from Shout! Factory and it's certainly more than adequate for the likes of source material such as "Gamera".



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4/14/2010 7:11 AM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Im thoroughly sick and tired of the propaganda, whining and requests for genre titles to be on Blu
Every time some movie is released we get the same people ranting "can we get it on blu rayyyyyy" Its like a bunch of starving children.. saying the same lines over and over about Blu Ray...
Just how clear does Gamera need to be anyway ? Do we need to see Gamera so clean you can see not just strings but other things that give away the effects ? Do we need to see the boy in the film in HD ? NAH

DMS
4/14/2010 9:02 AM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
Yeah, Kenny doesn't really need to leap out of the screen at me.
4/14/2010 10:07 AM
Scorpio
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RE: Gamera!
It may be sufficient for you, and there is nothing wrong with that, but there is nothing wrong with wanting something better either, especially if it already exists that way since the masters are already Hi-Def.

I'll never understand the "good enough" crowd. If everything was just good enough, we'd never progress in anything. I only just started to collect Blus after finally realizing that I just didn't want to invest more money in a lesser format.
4/14/2010 2:35 PM
Notundercovercop327
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RE: Gamera!

Well we're not all rich enough to dump formats at a moments notice and move up the next big thing.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Gamera probably deosn't have Hi-Def masters. If anything Gamera would look awful on Blu-Ray, as would pretty much everthing made before 2000.

----- Original Post -----
by Scorpio at 4/14/2010 10:07:55 AM

It may be sufficient for you, and there is nothing wrong with that, but there is nothing wrong with wanting something better either, especially if it already exists that way since the masters are already Hi-Def.

I'll never understand the "good enough" crowd. If everything was just good enough, we'd never progress in anything. I only just started to collect Blus after finally realizing that I just didn't want to invest more money in a lesser format.


Shout Factory knows how to release televsion, now if only they could release Legends Of the HIdden Temple. One can always dream.
4/14/2010 5:35 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Sorry these standard DVDs coming out are more than just good enough and some BluRays arent 'all that' ..a great transfer on any format works for me..I dont need such quality that I see a 5 O clock shadow clearly on a mans face

DMS
4/15/2010 4:17 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
I have a Blu-ray player and don't buy a lot of DVDs anymore, but I don't buy strictly Blu-ray.  Who knows?  Maybe we'll see something like that down the line eventually.  The problem is that Blu-ray hasn't taken over the market, yet.  In fact, the numbers are astonishing low in terms of Blu-ray to DVD.  So we, being a small company, can't afford to create a lot of a format that the public hasn't even entirely embraced, yet.

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4/15/2010 5:40 PM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
part of me does want to get one, but I like my TV and DVD quality as is...and $$$ is another issue..replacing DVD to Blu would be pricey..especially with all I have..
Id read a ton of reviews to make certain the Blu was truly a better transfer..which in some cases is not..
The reason I think about getting Blu is because of staying current, but DVDs are current too..

DMS
4/15/2010 8:48 PM
Scorpio
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RE: Gamera!
Yeah, it's somewhat hard to be into niche genre titles (which comprise most of my collection) and not buy DVD as most of it may have a long road before it ever gets to Blu. Hopefully the Corman Blu's really take off for you guys. Seems to be a lot of buzz on the various DVD/Blu sites, and August is doing his part to talk up the Gamera discs, too. I'm probably going to pick up the Gamera DVD releases regardless since the price is a veritable steal.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 4/15/2010 4:17:45 PM

I have a Blu-ray player and don't buy a lot of DVDs anymore, but I don't buy strictly Blu-ray.  Who knows?  Maybe we'll see something like that down the line eventually.  The problem is that Blu-ray hasn't taken over the market, yet.  In fact, the numbers are astonishing low in terms of Blu-ray to DVD.  So we, being a small company, can't afford to create a lot of a format that the public hasn't even entirely embraced, yet.

Brian

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4/18/2010 6:57 PM
TravisH
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RE: Gamera!
I'm really excited for these Gamera DVDs, it's so great to finally see them getting the quality releases they diserve! And I'm also pumped for the Roger Corman DVDs, Shout Factory rocks!!
4/18/2010 8:21 PM
TomServo
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RE: Gamera!
I find it amusing that people think Gamera "deserves" a quality DVD release. Granted, even when buying silly or bad movies it's nice to have a good picture quality, but to link this to Gamera itself because it is somehow deserving more than other movies seems a bit much. I've loved monster movies since I was a small child. By the time I saw Gamera the first time on a UHF station at around the age of 10 to 12 I was already a huge Godzilla fan, but old enough already at that point to find Gamera bizarre in the extreme. It still seems so today, though I haven't watched it without the MST3K treatment in many years. Even when viewed as children's movies they are quite odd and I found them to be odd even when I was a kid. A giant, fire breathing turtle that likes kids? Alien babes that want to saw off the top of kids heads and eat their brains? Goofy action scenes where the guys in rubber suits do all sorts of bizarre things inexplicable even within the context of a kids monster movie? Gamera is fun, but mostly because it is so, so incredibly weird. I guess for that reason maybe it does deserve a good DVD treatement. Everyone deserves the chance to be mystified by the strangeness that is Gamera undistracted by bad picture quality!

"Better Smeg Than Dead" -- Red Dwarf
4/19/2010 10:37 AM
TravisH
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RE: Gamera!
Honestly, I think all films diserve quality releases on home video, whether they are considered "good" or "bad."  

----- Original Post -----
by TomServo at 4/18/2010 8:21:16 PM

I find it amusing that people think Gamera "deserves" a quality DVD release. Granted, even when buying silly or bad movies it's nice to have a good picture quality, but to link this to Gamera itself because it is somehow deserving more than other movies seems a bit much. I've loved monster movies since I was a small child. By the time I saw Gamera the first time on a UHF station at around the age of 10 to 12 I was already a huge Godzilla fan, but old enough already at that point to find Gamera bizarre in the extreme. It still seems so today, though I haven't watched it without the MST3K treatment in many years. Even when viewed as children's movies they are quite odd and I found them to be odd even when I was a kid. A giant, fire breathing turtle that likes kids? Alien babes that want to saw off the top of kids heads and eat their brains? Goofy action scenes where the guys in rubber suits do all sorts of bizarre things inexplicable even within the context of a kids monster movie? Gamera is fun, but mostly because it is so, so incredibly weird. I guess for that reason maybe it does deserve a good DVD treatement. Everyone deserves the chance to be mystified by the strangeness that is Gamera undistracted by bad picture quality!

"Better Smeg Than Dead" -- Red Dwarf
4/19/2010 12:25 PM
Scorpio
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RE: Gamera!
Amen Travis.
4/20/2010 3:16 PM
Marshall Crist
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RE: Gamera!
As annoying as it may be, I must add my name to the list of those wishing for Blu-Ray release on the Gamera films.  I have the Japanese DVD's and BR would make the double-dip far more satisfying.
4/20/2010 5:10 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
Based on the sales history of these titles, I don't think Gamera would do well in the Blu-ray market.  Not yet, anyway.  We need BD to take over a bit more first.

Sorry, gang.

Brian

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4/21/2010 7:03 AM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Good for you Brian..Im so sick of whiny (holding nose) "waaah I want Blu Ray"  requests that it is becoming irritating ..threads all over the place are being flooded by the same Blu Ray DVD collectors. The same requests "please put it on Blu Ray" all over the place.
Gamera does not need Blu Ray. A good transfer , yes , blu ray - what for ? To see even more clearly the strings on Gamera's back ?
Blu Ray might be newer technology but that doesnt make it better. In fact some DVD titles do not look good on Blu Ray
I think when their is an announcement for a movie coming to DVD , there needs to be a statement saying if the title will be available for Blu Ray , maybe that will cut down the whining

DMS
4/21/2010 10:28 AM
Scorpio
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RE: Gamera!
It's funny dsman71, but it seems to be that you're the only one whining whenever Blu-ray is brought up. It's not like you're being deprived of the DVD in favor of a Blu only release. These forums are a valuable tool to let the company know what we would like and are into. Quit acting like a pathetic little troll. You act like Blu-ray killed your family.

----- Original Post -----
by dsman71 at 4/21/2010 7:03:18 AM

Good for you Brian..Im so sick of whiny (holding nose) "waaah I want Blu Ray"  requests that it is becoming irritating ..threads all over the place are being flooded by the same Blu Ray DVD collectors. The same requests "please put it on Blu Ray" all over the place.
Gamera does not need Blu Ray. A good transfer , yes , blu ray - what for ? To see even more clearly the strings on Gamera's back ?
Blu Ray might be newer technology but that doesnt make it better. In fact some DVD titles do not look good on Blu Ray
I think when their is an announcement for a movie coming to DVD , there needs to be a statement saying if the title will be available for Blu Ray , maybe that will cut down the whining

DMS
4/21/2010 11:33 AM
dsman71
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RE: Gamera!
Nope it seems to me people like you are whining about BluRay in every single thread like your life depends on it and im quite tired of reading of your requests "put it on bluray, pleeeese"
And then you resort to name calling - hiding behind your computer and call me " pathetic little troll " is very typical of people like you, sit there, lurk in forums & start calling people names. That's all your good at Scorpio. You probably havent got a set of balls to call someone a name in person face to face
Your name calling really doesnt bother me - it's very typical from people like you. Your the typical forum troll

DMS
4/21/2010 11:48 AM
Scorpio
Member since: 4/13/2010
RE: Gamera!
I ask about Blu and I'm whining? Sorry you are so tired of this, but that's too bad and I guess you're going to have to find a way to deal with it from me, and the others who also have inquired. I'll be asking about Blu on all potential releases I'm interested in. And nobody ever addressed you with the question in the first place.
4/21/2010 11:54 AM
dsman71
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Member since: 1/24/2008
RE: Gamera!
No one addressed me but that doesnt mean I have to read endless requests for blu ray from people like you..
Youll have to deal with it from me when I go anti Blu on you.
New DVD release ? Same questions, same begging...
Ill be laughing every time the word "No" is the answer to your blu ray requests..just like in this very thread
No Gamera on Blu Ray  LOL , life's a b*tch aint it

DMS
4/21/2010 12:04 PM
Scorpio
Member since: 4/13/2010
RE: Gamera!
So be it, Moriarty. So be it.
4/21/2010 12:23 PM
Tummybot5000
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Member since: 6/5/2009
RE: Gamera!
whats a blue rey?

"On the 6th day the Lord created BRAIN WARD, and on the 7th he rested, cause making BRAIN WARD was exhausting"
4/21/2010 1:41 PM
dsman71
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Member since: 1/24/2008
RE: Gamera!
Since you are winking at me..I sense a non hostile tone ...
Moriarty as in Sherlock Holmes' Moriarty
Ok sure
If we are on peaceful terms...maybe a good idea would be to edit some choice trolling comments and move forward
But if you still despise me it's cool..just no cutting in line ;)

DMS
4/21/2010 2:23 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
I should point out that I've "graduated" to Blu-ray myself.  But I know the difference between titles that will and won't sell well enough on Blu-ray.  Cult titles, like Gamera, require a demanding audience big enough to warrant the supply.  Otherwise, it's just a bad business decision.

But if Blu-ray is, in fact, here to stay--and long enough to become a widespread format--, I feel like every movie deserves its chance in the warm, glowing glow of a Blu-ray's laser.  And if fans want to see it, they should be able to, regardless of dissenting opinion.  If you don't want to go Blu, don't.  But those that have deserve an equal opportunity to expand their personal collections.  For whatever movies they wish.

Brian

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4/30/2010 7:50 PM
bish
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RE: Gamera!
Let me start out by saying that I'm happy to get the Gamera movies on DVD, and I can understand it not being profitable to put them on Blu-ray at this time.

However I just wanted to address the idea that somehow any films made before a certain time period are going to look worse in High Definition/Blu-ray then they would on DVD. The truth of the matter is that anything shot on film no matter how old is going to look better if first transferred to high def because film itself is a high resolution format, higher than even Blu-ray can provide. In fact because of DVD's compression things like film grain can look worse on DVD than in Hi-Def because compression doesn't always play nice with film that has a lot of grain.

The best examples I can think of are Casablanca and The Wizard of Oz. Both films were made over fifty years ago and both of which look tremendous on Blu-ray, better than their DVD counterparts.

Now wether or not Gamera deserves to be on Blu-ray is up for debate, I'd buy em, but I can guarantee it's not going to look any worse on Blu-ray than it would on DVD. They started making Hi-Def masters of movies for DVD long before Blu-ray appeared on the scene because it's always better to start with the highest quality master and then transfer down.

On a side note all of the Godzilla movies are being slowly released on Blu-ray in Japan, the previous Toho DVD's used Hi-Def masters and looked fantastic, and the films released so far on Blu-ray look even better, even the ones from the sixties.
5/3/2010 2:48 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
It should, however, be noted that both Casablanca and The Wizard of Oz have been well treated and preserved over the years since their initial releases.  It's unfair to say that any print of any movie would yield similar results.  It's just not the case.  It depends on what kind of film on which the movies were originally shot, the abilities of the original cinematographers and camera operators, whether or not the HD master is being created from a negative, print, etc...  There are plenty of reasons--as well examples--why a film wouldn't look its best in high definition.

Brian

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5/3/2010 9:32 PM
dsman71
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Member since: 1/24/2008
RE: Gamera!
yes I agree Brian..I dont think Warner would put something on Blu Ray that they felt wouldnt work due to a bad print
That being said..
North by Northwest as was reviewed was darker on Blu Ray ..in fact it was too dark
I think it was reported on DVD Beaver..

DMS
5/5/2010 4:54 PM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: Gamera!
Within the final stages of QCing Gamera vs. Barugon now.  Should go off to the plant this week.  Fingers crossed!

Brian

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5/6/2010 10:45 AM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!
Would it jinx it to ask if the Americanized version got included?  I've crossed my fingers so hard that they look like John Carradine's used to.
5/6/2010 5:02 PM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: Gamera!
Sadly, the English language version is not included here.  The running times don't match.  And we received the final elements too late to try tricky editing and branching.  Sorry, gang.

I can say, however, that this movie has never looked better, including when it was first projected.  This transfer is GORGEOUS.  The audio commentary is easily as informative as the one on the first release.  And August Ragone is joined by Jason Varney this time around, so it might just be doubly informative!

The publicity galleries are lovely, as always.

I'm happy to say, I've given my final QC and thumbs up.  The DVD's headed to the plant tomorrow.

Enjoy!  And be sure to keep an eye out re: news on the next batch!

Brian

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5/7/2010 11:13 AM
mystiefreak
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RE: Gamera!
Why not just include the Americanized versions of the Gameras on the disk as an extra (a separate movie) instead of using the English Language track (I'm assuming that's what you mean about the running times not matching). 
5/7/2010 12:28 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
There are a couple of reasons it wasn't included.  First, bit rates.  We've gone to the trouble of remastering the film and it's considerably more vibrant and colorful than ever before.  So to lower the bit rate to accommodate a lesser-quality version would simply be unacceptable.

Which leads to the second reason.  We did not have a visual master for the Americanized version.  So we would've needed to have paid someone else's master of the film to have included it as a separate piece.  And it wouldn't have looked nearly as good, because the transfer was bad.  So in order to the English dub, you have to watch a low quality version of the film.  Doesn't seem fair, does it?

Brian

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5/15/2010 2:28 PM
ThomasE
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Member since: 5/15/2010
RE: Gamera!
I would like to express my desire for the future releases of the Showa Gamera series to include the english dubs.  I personally prefer to watch foreign  movies with the original language and I am very happy and excited that Shout is releasing the Gamera series with the original Japanese language intact, but it would be nice to have the dubs to watch as well.  The dubbed versions of these movies were my first exposure to the Gamera movies and they hold a special place in my memory.  Another thing is that it would be very nice to be able to put in one of the Gamera movies select the english dub version and have it on in the background while doing other stuff around the house and know whats going on without looking at it because the movie is playing in english.
5/15/2010 11:39 PM
gvamp
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RE: Gamera!
I just wanted to sign up and say that I'm really excited for these Gamera releases. Not sure if this is the right place to put this comment but I'm a little dissapointed that Gamera the Giant Monster and Gamera vs Barugon won't have an English dub but that's not that big a deal. I do hope the future titles will have dubbs on them and I know I may get a lot of flack for this but I'd prefer the Sandy Frank dubbs since that's what I grew up on.

Is it possible for Shout to maybe go back and do a double release of Gammera The Invincible and War of the Monsters (the original englsih titles for Gamera and Gamera vs Barugon)? I'd pay for a barebones release of something like that.

Again I'm really excited for these releases and can't wait for the first release next week sadly it's my souvneir from my parents trip to Florida so I'll have to wait till the following week to get it.
5/17/2010 2:45 AM
VinceA
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Member since: 9/18/2007
RE: Gamera!
Just figured I'd add my vote to the list of people who would like the English dub to be included in future Gamera releases. I'm buying all of them anyway but would enjoy them more with the dub.
5/17/2010 5:29 AM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!

Yeah - the elements you've got to work with couldn't be as bad as what Alpha put out are they?  (Who knows, maybe they are).  But it's true, the English dubs are what made the movies fun and made them a part of our childhood memories.  I'd been hoping someone would put out DVD's compatable to what that other company did with Godzilla, and I think we're all very grateful, but I personally don't mind waiting a little extra time for a release that includes both.

UCLA couldn't be talked down from the high price the were asking for the Americanized Gamera like the rights owner of "The Final Sacrifice," could they?  What good's it doing them sitting in a vault when California's running out of money for education?

5/17/2010 9:02 AM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
Sorry, guys.  It would be bad form to discuss dealings with folks with whom we didn't end up doing deals.

Brian

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5/22/2010 9:37 AM
deadtech
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Member since: 4/30/2009
RE: Gamera!
Just got my Gamera DVD. I'm at work so havn't had a chance to go over it in detail, but it looks great! The commentary from Mr. Ragone is awesome! The 'look back at Gamera' too. And the booklet! Thanks to Shout! and Brian for another great release. I'm very much looking forward to the rest of the Gamera discs.
5/26/2010 1:56 PM
Dynamation
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Member since: 5/26/2010
RE: Gamera!
 

Brian, I really like your attitude in regards to sharing your disappointment about the dubs.    Yes, they are only movies, but most us grew up watching the dubs and they are the reason why many of us became Gamera fans.  I for one am glad you didn't tell us to "suck it up" and enjoy these versions instead!

Thanks for all of your efforts in helping to put this together and I do agree that this new print looks better than ever!

And we will see what the versions after Barugon will include!

5/26/2010 2:23 PM
B Ward
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RE: Gamera!
Enjoy, Deadtech! 

And thanks, Dynamation.  I've always tried to be conscious of what the fans want.  I'm a fanboy, myself.  And I'm assigned certain projects because I am one.  So if there's something I'd like see on a DVD that can't be, I try to tell you why, in hopes that you're as understanding of the process as possible.  Usually, you all are.  And I'm equally appreciative of that.

Thanks, again!

Brian

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5/26/2010 3:05 PM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!

Funny side note - I got a gift card for Best Buy so the first think I thought was "I want Gamera."  So I searched for it on the Best Buy website and it didn't come up (?)  ...then, on a hunch, I typed Gammera (with 2 "m's") and there it was.  So remember folks, to misspell it if you want it from Best Buy!

7/22/2010 11:06 AM
Mechagamera
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Member since: 7/22/2010
RE: Gamera!

Hello Mr. Brian Ward,

I just bought Shout! Factory's "Gamera vs. Barugon," and I was very impressed! I have only seen the American International Pictures' verson of this film on late night TV, and the quality of the transfer was stunning. The extras were also wonderful, and I learned a great deal about a movie that I thought I had knew everything about.

A few questions for you regarding your Gamera series:

I recently read in an online review of the Barugon DVD that future Gamera releases will not feature any audio commentaries and multiple titles will be combined to single discs. Is this true? Will there be ANY extras (aside from menu selections and perhaps an animated title menu) on future Gamera releases?

Also, mentioned in the audio commentary by August Ragone, there is a documentary honoring the life and career of the man who created the Gamera and monster suits for the series, along with the miniatures and special effects. Is there any chance that this documentary, or parts of it, could be translated and featured as an extra on a future release?

Lastly, the Daimajin series was frequently mentioned in the audio commentrary, since the first Daimajin film was released on a double bill with Barugon by Daie. Do the copyright holders of the original Gamera series that Shout! has been dealing with recently also own the rights to the original Daimajin series? If so, is there a chance for a future release of the series, either as a boxed set of all three films or released individually?

Thank you for your time and keep up the great work!

Marc

7/27/2010 5:39 PM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: Gamera!
I believe the doc you're referring to is on the original Gamera release we did.  And it really is quite good.

As for the remaining titles, we will not have audio commentaries on the next four movies, but mostly because we're doing rather high-end double features and have no room.  I spoke with August over the weekend in San Diego about this and wanted to make sure it was clarified that the movies' transfers are still absolutely gorgeous, looking better than ever, and they each include at least one English audio dub.  So, we're doing two movies on each disc with a grand total of five audio tracks per disc and including publicity galleries as bonus material.  With all of that, it's hard to include audio commentaries on each movie.

Sadly, as I'm not in the acquisitions department, there isn't much--if anything--I can say about the Daimajin series.  As far as I know, it's not even currently on the table.

Hope that helps!

Brian

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8/8/2010 11:42 AM
Mr. Jason
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Member since: 8/8/2010
RE: Gamera!
That's a real shame about the commentaries. The commentaries are the big reason I bought the first 2 Shout! Gamera dvds. I'll wait for proper Blu-Rays of the Gamera movies. I don't really buy DVDs anymore, unless it's something really obscure or contains something special, like a good commentary.

I also don't understand how cramming 2 movies and 4(5?) audio tracks onto a single dvd is going to look "absolutely gorgeous". I'll pass and buy the Blu-ray of Starcrash or Forbidden World instead.
8/8/2010 7:51 PM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: Gamera!
We don't have any plans for BD on these, as the BD market's just not big enough to insure enough sales for movies like Gamera. As for the appearance of the films, you can always rent 'em to see for yourself. The movies truly look incredible.

Brian

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8/23/2010 7:30 PM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!
Hey there Brian - is Zigra in the works?
8/24/2010 2:07 PM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: Gamera!
Yes and no.  I've not actually begun work on Zigra, but I will be.  Look for it sometime next year, likely packaged as a double feature with Super Monster.

Brian

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8/24/2010 5:55 PM
dsman71
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Member since: 1/24/2008
RE: Gamera!
thats what August Ragone told me ..the last 2 Gamera films are the worst :D

DMS
8/25/2010 5:37 AM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!
Cool!
8/25/2010 7:32 PM
Marshall Crist
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Member since: 4/20/2010
RE: Gamera!
Those last two are terrible and very enjoyable.
8/26/2010 1:43 AM
dsman71
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Member since: 1/24/2008
RE: Gamera!
http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2010/08/24/sneak-peek-shout-factorys-gamera-double-feature-collector%E2%80%99s-edition-dvds/

DMS
10/31/2010 3:17 PM
Bryan^H
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Member since: 10/31/2010
RE: Gamera!
I really want to see Super Monster with the Japanese audio.  Any news as to when in 2011 this is going to be released?
11/1/2010 8:49 AM
mystiefreak
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Member since: 8/10/2008
RE: Gamera!
I'm curious if the Gamera films now released on DVD are making enough profit that it might make it worth re-approaching UCLA for the Americanized Gamera film again, as a separate release?
11/9/2010 9:05 PM
Nick Zbu
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Member since: 2/6/2009
RE: Gamera!
Neat!  I was going to ask but it's good to see it's still about.
1/5/2011 10:14 AM
Bryan^H
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Member since: 10/31/2010
RE: Gamera!
  
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