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1/28/2010 7:08 PM
kaddursal
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The Official JEM Thread
If Shout releases Jem on DVD, will all of its images have new looks? Like for The Transformers, and G.I. Joe? Hasbro may have been behind it. Then I wouldn't bother buying these Jem DVD's. If they ever do that! But only if Jem fans are devoted to Jem's original images while they were being televised on TV. It might become a  rip-off! I bought the new Transformers, and G.I. Joe DVD's from Shout last year, and I didn't like the new looks at all! And I thought they were rip-offs!.
1/28/2010 8:26 PM
Notundercovercop327
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Well you probably won't have to worry about that seeing as Shout factory has clearly said they have no plans for releasing the show.



Shout Factory knows how to release televsion, now if only they could release Legends Of the HIdden Temple. One can always dream.
1/29/2010 5:15 AM
kaddursal
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Well....If Shout, or any other DVD releasing company refuses to put Jem on their DVD. Then Jem fans might as well have to buy the infringements of Jem from cartoon collectors. But I'm certainly not against that.
1/30/2010 3:00 PM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
If and when Hasbro releases the licensing to Jem DVD -- I'm sure Shout will do the best they can with what they have to work with. As far as I know the final broadcast version of the Sunbow shows still cannot be found. Anyway, no matter when they release it will be better then watching the old VHS copies recorded off of TV -- specially the episodes Rhino did not release.
1/30/2010 3:09 PM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
They are not refusing, they can't legal put out Jem DVDs with out Hasbro's permission and licensing. So creating bootlegs is not going to help Jem, Hasbro, Shout!, or any of the Jem fans.

----- Original Post -----
by kaddursal at 1/29/2010 5:15:35 AM

Well....If Shout, or any other DVD releasing company refuses to put Jem on their DVD. Then Jem fans might as well have to buy the infringements of Jem from cartoon collectors. But I'm certainly not against that.
1/30/2010 6:46 PM
kaddursal
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
It's very sad that Jem fans have been grumbling like blazes to watch Jem again. Both on TV, and DVD for way over a decade now. And I certainly do not blame them. And I am still suffering without Super Sunday since it was taken off TV in 1986. I heard this rumor on the Truly Outrageous Jem Mailing List several years ago saying that a couple of Jem fans committed suicide after hearing an April Fools joke about Jem being released on DVD again a few years ago. That was nothing to laugh at.
2/2/2010 7:07 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
We did hear a rumor of that, but I think the "suicides" was the sick Aprils Fools joke. No one would kill themselves over a show being released on DVD or not.

What would be the point to killing yourself over a DVD, unless you catapult yourself into Hasbro with a Jem doll in your hand? (similar to the South Park episode) Pointless unless it was making national news.

And that would make Jem fans look bad, and Hasbro look down on Jem -- and they would never release anything Jem ever again.

Besides 2/3 of the series as just one DVD 5-6 years ago.

Kind of sad that threats and manipulation from the Jem fandom is creeping onto a corporate run messageboard, it makes all of us Jem fans look bad.

----- Original Post -----
by kaddursal at 1/30/2010 6:46:50 PM

I heard this rumor on the Truly Outrageous Jem Mailing List several years ago saying that a couple of Jem fans committed suicide after hearing an April Fools joke about Jem being released on DVD again a few years ago. That was nothing to laugh at.
2/8/2010 11:03 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Here's the thing about Jem.  Unfortunately, it's not even on the table for discussion.  Hasbro doesn't currently want the show released.  They have their reasons, and they're pretty good reasons, but I can't discuss them.  That being said, it doesn't mean the show will never be available.  It just won't be available in the immediate future.  Shout! Factory does not hold the rights to release the series on DVD at this time.

We'll let you know if something changes.

Brian

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2/9/2010 10:42 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
My question would have to be is Hasbro's "good reasons" have to do with the Jem specifically or is it just Hasbro in general. Oh, in that search for the original broadcast versions of the Sunbow shows, was USA Network a company that was checked. I can't remember if I read anything about USA, I know they at least aired Jem for 5 years of she was pulled for the syndicated channels.
2/9/2010 9:26 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I am a huge fan of the series. I really hope Shout Factory will release the show (the complete series set) on DVD.
2/20/2010 2:20 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
My bet is that companies like Hasbro hold back to boost the demand. Its smart. A freind of mine works in a dvd store and she gets harassed by different people several times a week wondering when Beauty And The Beast is back on dvd or when the next gargoyles set is coming. Disney is deaf i swear to god.
3/30/2010 1:07 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I really hope the reasoning is that they are just holding out a little bit and not because of the more adult storylines on the show. I still own my First 2 Sets of JEM released by RHINO, but I hope they don't want to be PC or anything and edit the episodes etc. It would mean poor sales.

I have hopes that the JEM series is re-released UNCUT. I would hope HASBRO etc are very happy with sales and releases from G.I. Joe and Transformers to maybe in the future let SHOUT tackle the release. :-)

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 2/8/2010 11:03:28 AM

Here's the thing about Jem.  Unfortunately, it's not even on the table for discussion.  Hasbro doesn't currently want the show released.  They have their reasons, and they're pretty good reasons, but I can't discuss them.  That being said, it doesn't mean the show will never be available.  It just won't be available in the immediate future.  Shout! Factory does not hold the rights to release the series on DVD at this time.

We'll let you know if something changes.

Brian

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3/30/2010 2:27 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
In fairness to Disney, they've always been very open re: their vault policies.  Started by Walt, himself, for their first feature, Snow White & the Seven Dwarfs, Disney titles are revived for each "generation" after so many years of retirement, in order to A.) build demand and B.) build a new audience.  A reasonable educated guess for Beauty & the Beast's next release can be determined by looking into when it was retired and the histories of previous films, particularly as they've been released on Blu-ray.

As for Gargoyles, the sales numbers aren't particularly good.  I'm not all that surprised that Disney's put it on the shelf for now.

Brian



----- Original Post -----
by coughler at 2/20/2010 2:20:02 PM

My bet is that companies like Hasbro hold back to boost the demand. Its smart. A freind of mine works in a dvd store and she gets harassed by different people several times a week wondering when Beauty And The Beast is back on dvd or when the next gargoyles set is coming. Disney is deaf i swear to god.


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3/31/2010 3:55 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Errrrr...maybe you guys haven't heard, but last Friday I think it was, Disney announced the "Beauty and the Beast Diamond Edition" on Blu-ray/DVD combo pack for Oct. 5, 2010 release (with a DVD-only set to follow on 11/23).  Just sayin'.

Nothing to do with Jem, though. 
4/9/2010 4:57 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
"They have their reasons, and they're pretty good reasons, but I can't discuss them."

Uh-oh.  I smell a remake.
5/6/2010 3:58 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

B Ward,

I decided to check your comments again and I figure the reason that you stated "They have their reasons, and they're pretty good reasons, but I cant discuss them." This to me seems to be regarding them either making a new JEM show or showing the old show on The Hub this coming fall. Since they mentioned Jem in one of the most recent press releases.



----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 2/8/2010 11:03:28 AM

Here's the thing about Jem.  Unfortunately, it's not even on the table for discussion.  Hasbro doesn't currently want the show released.  They have their reasons, and they're pretty good reasons, but I can't discuss them.  That being said, it doesn't mean the show will never be available.  It just won't be available in the immediate future.  Shout! Factory does not hold the rights to release the series on DVD at this time.

We'll let you know if something changes.

Brian

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5/6/2010 2:23 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
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5/6/2010 10:33 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 5/6/2010 2:23:13 PM

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Ward are you teasing us with this post? Don't tease me haha, I remember being off the tuesday that the first RHINO box set was released for JEM and I think it retailed for 64.99 and I could only find it at a SUNCOAST and it was 64.99 and I paid the full price. I never regretted it. I followed with the second set of JEM and was sad that the collection could not be completed because licensing ran out. I certainly don't mind getting the chance to purchase the show over again. Hopefully when it does get released it will be a full series set. I will still cling to my RHINO releases because I grew found of the first box set release. Mine is still mint condition. A friend asked if she could look at it once when she spotted it on my self, and I said NO. She was surprised. I said I don't think you want to accidently drop it and dent an edge. I may need locked up afterwards. :-) she laughed.
5/7/2010 3:58 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hmmm.....  Tis this the answer that i have been looking for? Ill just have to wait and see.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 5/6/2010 2:23:13 PM

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5/7/2010 9:17 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm not teasing.  We're not releasing Jem.  But someone speculated, based on previous posts of mine, as to why it wasn't being released.  And I'm simply responding.  I can neither confirm nor deny those speculations.

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5/7/2010 2:14 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brain,. you coy minx! We all know that the super-special edition bvlu-ray 3D Jem and the holographs are finished and PT sHOUT!FACOTry is just sitting on them to pent up demand. I LOVE IT!

"On the 6th day the Lord created BRAIN WARD, and on the 7th he rested, cause making BRAIN WARD was exhausting"
5/26/2010 4:44 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
What press release? I haven't seen any with Jem -- your getting my hopes up.

Pajiba just posted a second article referencing the Jem movie, M.A.S.K. and Hasbro (night at the toy factory - Toy Story/Night at the Museum)

Of course the French Jem DVDs are fantastic, the artwork is beautiful. And finally the Stingers on DVD!

----- Original Post -----
by BenderBot at 5/6/2010 3:58:19 AM

This to me seems to be regarding them either making a new JEM show or showing the old show on The Hub this coming fall. Since they mentioned Jem in one of the most recent press releases.



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6/4/2010 7:20 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Hey Folks, 

Great news  for all us JEM fans!! Tformers.com has posted the HUB TV lineup, and apparently JEM will finally be back on U.S. television. Below is the reported line-up. Lets keep our fingers crossed!!

Weekdays (All Times Eastern)

6 AM: Time Warp Trio
6:30 AM: Kenny the Shark
7 AM - Jem
7:30 AM - Saddle Club
8 AM - My Little Pony and Friends

3:30 PM Beast Wars

11 PM GI JOE: Real American Hero

11:30 PM Transformers G1

THURSDAYS

6 PM Transormers Prime
 

6/7/2010 4:09 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
That schedule is not "real" -- just "realistic" based on shows Discovery and Hasbro own, along with known new programs. So no Jem, at least not officially known yet. I'm really disappointed that Tformers.com posted it as real, without really reading it a little closer -- but that fantasy schedule is very confusing.

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7/4/2010 7:42 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
With so many false hopes over the years, I'm starting to get very doubtful we'll see any real return of Jem, which is why it's such a shame we don't have the original episodes readily available.  Thankfully I have the Rhino sets, and my own homemade versions of the "Season 3 Part 2" that they never released, but I'd still rebuy the whole thing in one package if I could.

Although a few years ago (I wanna say 04ish) Hasbro re-upped all the Jem-related trademarks, and bought up a bunch of domains a couple of years ago ('08 I think) for Jem movie sites (also jerricabenton.com, showtimesynergy.com, and a couple others) I still hold out little hope for any real return.  It would be neat, if done properly, though - and I don't mean some live-action version with Miley Cyrus or something, LOL (although I have to admit seeing Hannah Montana it seems as if a good portion of that show was cribbed straight from Jem).

According to the statements I have read, the Sunbow shows will not be on the new network (just the newer versions of those shows, i.e. the new GI Joe and Transformers), but it sure would be nice to have Jem back on TV in some form, since it hasn't aired in the U.S. in well over a decade and a half. 

This is one of those instances where I wish they'd crap, or get off the pot. ;)
9/29/2010 10:20 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

So, B Ward I'm not sure if you work for Shout! or just what your connection is but if you do have some official connection, is there a place where fans should write/email/call to specifically request Hasbro release JEM on DVD?  Should we contact Hasbro? Shout!? Someone else? 

Just thinking with the 25th anniversary of Jem coming up, now is a good time to start a writing campaign. Do something like when people want to save a favorite TV shows - mail them postcards shaped like stars or something...

9/29/2010 5:51 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm a DVD producer for Shout.  And we encourage you letting folks know, but the thing with Jem is that both Shout and Hasbro are well aware that you want it.  We know there are a ton of requests and we'd love to release it.  They know there are a ton of requests, but... I can say no more.

I'm not saying it'll never happen, because I firmly believe that it will eventually happen.  Will it be us?  Dunno.  I'd love it if it was.  But Hasbro's working some stuff out and until that's done, no one will be releasing the show, despite everyone's acknowledgment that the demand seems to be there.

Patience for now, gang.

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9/30/2010 6:21 AM
athkat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Do you have any idea in what kind of time frame the "stuffed" being worked might be resolved?  Just curious if we're talking months or years here. 

I bought the new She-Ra DVD yesterday and watching my little girls see it for the first time made me wish for Jem even more!

9/30/2010 8:47 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Nope.  No time frame, to my knowledge.  Really could go any way.  Sorry.

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10/6/2010 4:05 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
This the official birthday of the opening theme, the first segment "BEGINNING, THE", from Super Sunday, and "Outta My Way" Sunday, October 6, 1985, marks the start of the 15 weeks that Truly Outrageous! was spread out leading up to her 1986 release. We also found out that the pajiba.com Jem movie rumor is not correct. Peter Barsocchini was not asked to direct or write a Jem movie.

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10/12/2010 7:19 AM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Corporate (HASBRO) is missing out on a great opportunity on the Jem property. A great show with a large fans. Hasbro needs to re-release the series on DVD as well as offer a new revamped series for this generation. The time is right......I'm just saying.
12/9/2010 5:23 PM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hasbro has trademarked individual doll names -- must mean something is in the works.
JERRICA BENTON, RIO PACHECO, AJA LEITH, SHANA ELMSFORD, KIMBER BENTON and oddly MINX. Only one Stingers, no Misfits, and no friends of any of the groups -- yet? Also, it's odd that they are trademarking the full Christy Marx (Sunbow) names -- not just the original/stage names.
Hasbro is launching a brand at toyfare, but wouldn't say what it is at the investors day -- seems like the stars are aligning for Jem.


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12/10/2010 12:36 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Interesting catch.  Thanks for the update!

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12/13/2010 5:22 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Having nothing remotely to do with what your all talking about, I bought a actual pictues disc of this JEM charater, back in the early 90's..... Just some nutty thing to do, as I had some extra spending money,. {at the time} when it came to buying records...... Not know, that as of this time, the thing is now, a soight after item!: Ranging, anywhere, from 1k, to 3k!..... How freky can that beb?!?!?... A Fluxk buy, that in the future, it's worth a cool mint... In my p.o.v., of course.... It you all see one, buy it!: You could be buying an investment!....

1/20/2011 7:03 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
No wonder why TV-on-DVD sales are crappy. They ignore the stuff that was influential or popular and put out the shows that you can currently see on TV ("Friends", "Two and a Half Men" and all that stuff). There is a market for the older shows, the studios just have no clue. This was why Sony laid off half of its home video staff, they were sitting on their classic stuff and releasing the stuff that no one really truly cares about. That can be another factor: RELEASING INFERIOR PRODUCT.
1/23/2011 7:33 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Harvsoul, I appreciate your thoughts, but I'm afraid they're a bit misguided. While certainly not all of us, a lot of people outgrow the stuff they grew up with as children. While it may hold a special place in their hearts, not everyone who ever loved a show feels the need to own it 20 years later. As for sales, well, this isn't exactly theoretical. There are hard numbers that show that contemporary network hits outsell their nostalgic collections by at least double. A lot of that has to do with their audience's current taste vs. the taste they had as children.

Believe me, yours is not the first generation to boast that the shows they grew up with were better compared to the stuff of today. And it won't be the last.

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2/10/2011 5:01 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Happy 25th Anniversary Jem! -- Jem was officially unveiled at the New York Toy Fair, February 10, 1986.

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2/11/2011 2:04 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
But Brian - ours really WERE the best. :)

I mean, I grew up with Jem, and it's the best TV cartoon ever, ever made. :)

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 1/23/2011 7:33:19 PM


Believe me, yours is not the first generation to boast that the shows they grew up with were better compared to the stuff of today. And it won't be the last.

2/11/2011 11:45 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
You could, very well, be right.

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3/9/2011 7:46 PM
adamwade
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Glamour, glitter, fashion, fame...action, adventure, romance, intrigue...the parallels with Buffy are actually kinda interesting. ;)

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 2/11/2011 11:45:51 AM

You could, very well, be right.

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3/11/2011 1:52 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Is it their final decision not to release Jem on dvd :(
3/23/2011 3:51 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I hear there is some good news!!! If Jem is brought to DVD, could you please bring TrulyOutragous out too? -- or the original Super Sunday segments of Jem. If those can't be found, could you at least have someone talk about the different those and the extended version of the episodes that became Jem's The Beginning, Disaster, Kimber's Rebellion, Frame Up, and the Battle of the Bands. Labeled as Season 1 on the Rhino DVDs. What changed: there was extend and added scenes the songs were extended and arrangements changed the background score was updated, to include instruments from the 1st 7 Jem episodes. We need Tom Griffin and Joe Bacal to talk about Jem as part of the extra stuff, please!!! If you need toy commercials, I have good quality VHS version of 10 commercials.

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3/23/2011 7:13 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
riot4jem so what are the good news that u heard???? i pray and pray but nothing happens :(
3/23/2011 8:08 AM
athkat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Christy Marx posted last night on a fan yahoo group that Shout! is currently working on a DVD release for later this year! FINALLY!
Thank you Shout! Factory!
3/23/2011 9:24 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


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3/23/2011 9:33 AM
zg123
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

OMG!!!! thank you so much!!

cant wait to hear more info. plz make it special like GIjoe and the Transformers complete boxes. finally super news!

3/23/2011 9:36 AM
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Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
3/23/2011 10:51 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I knew if anyone could do JEM and the Holograms justice on DVD it would be Shout Factory! 

 Really cool Christy Marx is invloved! I still have the TWO RHINO Volumes released all those years back I think the first set retailed at 64.99 and I bought it at a SUNCOAST for that price.

Will gladly purchase a whole new series set or the whole series as released by SHOUT.

3/23/2011 11:02 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
OH WOW!!! I am hoping beyond hope that it is a Complete Series set!!! Please oh please!!! And thank you guys at Shout!!!
3/23/2011 11:11 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian: thanksyouthankyouthankyou! So excited. I really hope this gets the GI JOE treatment: Complete series, with later individual releases. It'd be awesome to have CDs with just all the songs. And if there's any fanart contest or anything, I'm in.
3/23/2011 11:28 AM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been watching the Rhino copies plus bootleg ones off youtube. This is EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!!!!!!! Would love to see a Complete series DVD package as well as individual releases too. Will pick these up in a heartbeat!!!! I hope Shout can interview Cindy McGee the voice of Shana. That would be cool. Always wanted to see and hear her experiences. As well as Susan Blu (Stormer) and Samantha Newark (Jem). The show had some great music. I always wondered why they never released the music on vinyl back in the 80's.

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
3/23/2011 11:53 AM
Te'Monte Mincy
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I love Jem and I will be looking out for more info on the releases and i hope that we get a complete series release.
3/23/2011 12:35 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Told you it was just going to take a little time.  As well as the decision by Hasbro to let it go.  And they obviously have.  I'm thrilled to be working on this one now.  Examining the masters, even as I type this.  I understand that, like Transformers, Rhino had insufficient masters and I'm trying my absolute best to isolate these issues and, as I did with Transformers, restore them to how you remember them.  I will warn you, however, that to do this properly, it requires Hasbro's vault to still have the original broadcast 1" tapes.  The Transformers tapes weren't in the best condition and I'm not expecting Jem and the Holograms to have been handled much better.  Fingers are crossed that they even still have them.  If not, I'll be sure to throw everyone warning well in advance.

Yes, I am already looking into bonus material, but am very interested in fan-collected stuff like old toy commercials.  If you've got them, and they're HIGH-RES, I'd love to get them from you.  By "high-res," I simply mean that I can't take 2-3" .avi or .mpeg files you've collected over the years.  These need to be of high enough resolution that after I put them through a compressor and encoder, they still look decent on a television at full frame.  Old VHS copies still work, as long as the tape isn't too worn.  So scour your collections.  I'd love to see what you've got.

And if there are any other recommendations, please feel free to send them my way.

Thanks, gang!

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3/23/2011 12:58 PM
Zaranyzerak
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Fantastic news!  At least the "Big Hasbro/Sunbow Three" will be complete!  I think I have a commercial or two kicking around, I know you're familiar with the kind of quality I have so I'll fire 'em your way if I find 'em.

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3/23/2011 1:49 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
OMG! I'm so thankful to both Shout! and Hasbro for making this happen.
3/23/2011 2:06 PM
listenup
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
When you look into bonus material, please look for the commercial bumpers, there are 12 of these.
3/23/2011 2:10 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Zaranyzerak, send 'em on my way, brotha'!

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3/23/2011 4:51 PM
themeister
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Amazingly good news! Can't wait for this. 2011 is looking to be another great Shout Factory year!
3/23/2011 5:12 PM
Frightener22
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'm very excited about this!  With this announcement along with the Nickelodeon news, Captain Planet, Transformers, Dennis The Menace and more Corman titles on the way it just solidifies that Shout! Factory is hands down the best distributor out there.  Keep up the amazing work guys!
3/23/2011 5:56 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Just curious, I'm not sure how the music rights work for this show but is it possible for Shout! to release a soundtrack from the show? Or would it be possible for Hasbro to release songs from the show through something like itunes if they wanted? 

3/23/2011 6:33 PM
rogue73
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JEM!!!!!!!  YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!! Big thanks to Shout & Hasbro . Like The Transformers and G.I. JOE: A Real American Hero; I'll definitely be be buying this outrageous dvd series. Hope there will be a boxed and individual sets like they did with the previous two titles. My only wish is that Shout would and could use the original JEM doll box art for the dvd covers. Instead of the typical "toonish" art dvd covers we always see. However, I'm just thrilled that Shout & Hasbro are finally able to make this happen. This show ROCKED!!!!  

  Again, thank you Shout & Hasbro.

3/23/2011 7:36 PM
Luke2432
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I never saw JEM before.  Is it worth getting and what is the show about?
3/23/2011 7:56 PM
Cronos
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After the death of her father Jerrica Benton finds his secret technology (Synergy) that can create holograms, she creates a secret identity "Jem" and with her sister and friends form a rock band in order to help keep Starlight House (home for orphan girls) going and evetually get back control of her fathers company from Eric Raymond who has his own rock group "The Misfits".
----- Original Post -----
by Luke2432 at 3/23/2011 7:36:01 PM

I never saw JEM before.  Is it worth getting and what is the show about?
3/23/2011 8:59 PM
JATH80
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I am so excited about this DVD release!!! I can't wait. Brian can you please interview Cindy McGee the voice of Shana and Susan Blu (Stormer) as part of the bonus material Please???



Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
3/23/2011 9:36 PM
n8twing
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The French dvd releases had excellent art: http://www.shoutfactory.com/community/2654/thread.aspx#axzz1HS2ALBtH From this artist: http://www.jerome-alquie.com/site_usa/travaux_serie_tv_de_notre_enfance_officiel_jem.htm He'd be perfect for box art.
3/24/2011 1:00 AM
CD77
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Thank you so much, Shout! That's great news and we all know you'll do your best to give us another great DVD set! Any chance to have other languages (i.e. Italian) besides the original version?

www.jemeleholograms.it
3/24/2011 4:05 AM
riot4jem
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If unable to find the original Truly Outrageous movie, I think it was released in the UK a few years back -- before it was extended into 5 Jem episodes. It's really the 15 parts from Super Sunday smacked together into movie form, so the 15 parts from Super Sunday would be better, but movie version would still get us the original 1985 version. Jem is not Jem without the music, so Anna Bryant would be a perfect guest. People are throwing around ideas for what art to use -- I suggest the original Hasbro presentation art. If you can persuade Hasbro to let you, it would be the most complete art for all the characters up to though the 1988 unproduced dolls. But it's not like Hasbro would loose anything by revealing the old illustrations and prototypes -- the fashions are 25 years old, I don't think anyone is going to run out and start producing them.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/24/2011 10:13 AM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Working on bonus materials now.  I can tell you that I've already had several amazing responses from folks.  Doesn't mean the interviews are in the can, so I wouldn't celebrate just yet.  But it's clear that these people all adore the Jem fans and they want to be a part of this set.  Now, we just have to make it work with schedules and such.  Many are extremely busy.

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3/24/2011 10:41 AM
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Shout Factory is ABSOLUTELY TOP NOTCH! JEM is definately one of the best, if not the best show of the 80's and I'm so glad to hear that its getting the Shout Factory treatment. Thank you Brian and all the folks who worked behind the scenes to get this show out to all us fans. All the best!!
3/24/2011 11:11 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I know it's early in the game and all, but has there been any talk of releasing this as one large boxset first (like the G.I. Joe and Transformers sets)?  If so, just throwing this out there, how's about a box made to look like a hot pink boombox with Jem and Misfits stickers on it?  That could be pretty rad...

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3/24/2011 3:14 PM
Luke2432
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Are there any shows similar to JEM?
3/24/2011 4:05 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
If Hasbro does not have the doll box art available I can supply a lot of them, I have the licensing kit Hasbro sent out in the 80's.
12"x12"
It looks like a Jem record album, and might be a good start for the concept of a complete series dvd set.
I also have Polaroids and illustrations of unproduced items that could be included too. So I can send high quality scans of them. The Italian Topolino ads and comics might be good for the bonus material
especially if translated. I don't know if there is anything legally preventing them from being included, but I do have all of them.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/25/2011 12:37 PM
lureene
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Thank you Shout.   I can't wait til its been officially released  :)
3/25/2011 12:39 PM
n8twing
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
@Brian Ward: Creator Cristy Marx is also in possession of the Jem original bible, with tons of character art that can probably be "remastered."
3/25/2011 8:45 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
That would be great if they could include the series bible as an extra.

----- Original Post -----
by n8twing at 3/25/2011 12:39:52 PM

@Brian Ward: Creator Cristy Marx is also in possession of the Jem original bible, with tons of character art that can probably be "remastered."
3/26/2011 5:18 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
The extra bonus material would not be complete without one person's interview. I believe Barbara Hyland is still with us. If so, she would be the only surviving original creator of the doll line. Her husband Joe Hyland-2001 (Marketing for G.I. Joe in the 60's-70's) and marketing executive Bill Sanders-1990, have already past. I have tried to track her down and make contact, but was unsuccessful. Maybe contacts at Hasbro would be able to find her, so she can be brought on board.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/26/2011 11:08 AM
Cronos
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Another nice extra would be if Christy could tell us what she saw for the future of these characters and if there were any stories/ideas in particular she wishes she could have done but didn't get the chance to do before the show ended. Also it would be kind of cool if Hasbro could share any designs for characters/merchandise that were never produced.
3/27/2011 7:24 AM
riot4jem
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It might really be reaching -- but maybe a bonus could be Christy reading the outline for the "Jem Movie" with the Mongrels and their synthesizer Entropy. Stills from episodes could even be used to show the auction and characters -- Riot and Rapture could even play the part of twins Alexander and Alexandra. They seem pretty similar anyway. Long story short, Christy was asked to create an outline for a Sunbow movie, and when Transformers and My Little Pony tanked in movie theaters the Jem movie was scrapped and of course G.I. Joe never got a theatrical release.

One thing I would love to hear talked about is the ending of the Hasbro/Sunbow relationship. Hasbro seems to have stopped Transformers and G.I. Joe cold turkey, but Jem continued through production even after Hasbro canceled the doll line. Around 19 episodes aired after the doll line was canceled. There was an article suggesting that Hasbro continued the show after canceling the doll line to help move product of the shelves. And it sounded like Hasbro would have just dropped Jem mid contract if the doll line continued into 1988.

Also a break down of the 1988 doll line would be nice: American Beauty Jem, Rockin' Romance Jem, Hollywood Jem, a doll just named Jem, Rio 'O Boy, Astral, Regine, the Stingers, new Pizzazz, Graphix, new fashions, new playsets. Hasbro might have a more complete listing then what we have pieced together so far. And I understand there may be slides of dolls like the Stingers -- there is no point in Hasbro being secretive, we have seen almost everything anyway.

Fun facts would be a cool thing too. Ex: Jem was the #1 rated cartoon in Nov 1986, the Jem theme song went triple Platinum by August 87.

And why Rama Llama?

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/27/2011 7:57 AM
pranceatron
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Just signed up to get my two cents in :)  My wishes are simple at first - the whole series, looking and sounding as nice as possible.  It would be great to have them available in the Super Sunday 7 Min. clips, as well as the episodes as they were aired afterward, and the TO! movie.  Goes without saying to have Christy Marx interview & anything else she may be willing to add from her archives.
Extra icing on top?  I would absolutely love to have the songs (with and without vocal track possible?) and BGMs (back ground music score) by Barry Harman in some format!  Ooh!  And a cel model sheet gallery!
What I may be able to add? Commercials.  I have several that were recorded on VHS by some sort of semi professional company and sold on eBay about 5-10 years ago, I've had them on Youtube for quite some time:
http://www.youtube.com/user/minceatron
It's still VHS - not 3/4" or anything fancy but nicer than most I've seen and I'd be happy to donate usage of the tape to the project if no one has anything better.
3/27/2011 10:48 AM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Wow, they don't look bad at all on YT! And I'm sure your tapes will look even better!

www.jemeleholograms.it
3/27/2011 12:53 PM
riot4jem
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Brian, would a CD soundtrack be possible?
It would be nice to have CDs with the full unedited stereo songs. The songs in the episodes are often cut and have various sound affects throughout the songs. That should be about 72 song for Season 1 - included the extended version of the Super Sunday episodes, and around 80 new songs from Season 2 (Talent Search - A Father Should Be..) Each would probably have to be a two CD set -- about hour and half for Season 1, and for Season 2, less then 1:40 for most songs. The Jem theme, and even the Jem Girl theme would be a must have, and the doll commercial soundtracks would be very cool too -- instrumental/karaoke versions would be great too, especially because the 2nd side of most Hasbro cassettes had the instrumental version.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/27/2011 2:29 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

That would be amazing if they could, I really hope Hasbro finds some way of releasing the music, I would think there would be almost as much demand for the music as there is for the show.

----- Original Post -----
by riot4jem at 3/27/2011 12:53:46 PM

Brian, would a CD soundtrack be possible?
It would be nice to have CDs with the full unedited stereo songs. The songs in the episodes are often cut and have various sound affects throughout the songs. That should be about 72 song for Season 1 - included the extended version of the Super Sunday episodes, and around 80 new songs from Season 2 (Talent Search - A Father Should Be..) Each would probably have to be a two CD set -- about hour and half for Season 1, and for Season 2, less then 1:40 for most songs. The Jem theme, and even the Jem Girl theme would be a must have, and the doll commercial soundtracks would be very cool too -- instrumental/karaoke versions would be great too, especially because the 2nd side of most Hasbro cassettes had the instrumental version.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/27/2011 6:38 PM
Luke2432
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Is JEM similar to Josie and the Pussycats?
3/27/2011 10:04 PM
JATH80
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
@riot4jem Thanks for sharing that. I've read that somewhere in an interview that Christy gave a few years back that the "Jem Movie" was gonna change the fabric of the Jem series (just like the Transformers Movie). That would have been very interesting to see. In that article from what I remember concerning the animated movie, the film takes place a few years in the future. Aja, Shana and Kimber leave the group. Aja marries Craig and moves to Europe. Shana marries Anthony and becomes a world famous Top designer. Kimber marries Sean and pursues a solo career. Stormer leaves the Misfits and joins the Holograms The Holograms consist of Jem, Raya, Stormer, and new members the Starlight girls Deidre & Lela. During a Live performance from the Mongrels, Jem falls into a trance tells her secret to Rio backstage. Now I can't find the article any where now but I would love to know if there is any truth to this. I would love for Christy to outline the un-produced "Jem Movie" and verify any this info.

----- Original Post -----
by riot4jem at 3/27/2011 7:24:02 AM

It might really be reaching -- but maybe a bonus could be Christy reading the outline for the "Jem Movie" with the Mongrels and their synthesizer Entropy. Stills from episodes could even be used to show the auction and characters -- Riot and Rapture could even play the part of twins Alexander and Alexandra. They seem pretty similar anyway. Long story short, Christy was asked to create an outline for a Sunbow movie, and when Transformers and My Little Pony tanked in movie theaters the Jem movie was scrapped and of course G.I. Joe never got a theatrical release.

One thing I would love to hear talked about is the ending of the Hasbro/Sunbow relationship. Hasbro seems to have stopped Transformers and G.I. Joe cold turkey, but Jem continued through production even after Hasbro canceled the doll line. Around 19 episodes aired after the doll line was canceled. There was an article suggesting that Hasbro continued the show after canceling the doll line to help move product of the shelves. And it sounded like Hasbro would have just dropped Jem mid contract if the doll line continued into 1988.

Also a break down of the 1988 doll line would be nice: American Beauty Jem, Rockin' Romance Jem, Hollywood Jem, a doll just named Jem, Rio 'O Boy, Astral, Regine, the Stingers, new Pizzazz, Graphix, new fashions, new playsets. Hasbro might have a more complete listing then what we have pieced together so far. And I understand there may be slides of dolls like the Stingers -- there is no point in Hasbro being secretive, we have seen almost everything anyway.

Fun facts would be a cool thing too. Ex: Jem was the #1 rated cartoon in Nov 1986, the Jem theme song went triple Platinum by August 87.

And why Rama Llama?

totallyjem.jemmagic.com


Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
3/28/2011 3:55 AM
Jemboy73
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

This is great news, I can't wait for it to come together. I have the Truly Outrageous UK release DVD which is the without the extended scenes in one long movie. I personally prefer that version.

 

3/28/2011 10:00 AM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Thanks for the information and updates, gang.  It's all incredibly useful.

Pranceatron, I would love to get those commercials from you!  Please drop me an email at the info@shoutfactory.com address with my name in the subject.  I'll get back to you with information on how to get that to me.  Thanks!

Riot4Jem, getting that stuff as high-res scans would be fantastic.  Exactly the kinds of things I'm looking for.  I would need them at 300dpi.  Contact me through info@shoutfactory.com, if you don't already have my email address.

One note to address, gang.  I know a lot of you are excited and I know a lot of you have the contact information of various cast and crew members.  It's awesome that they enjoy interacting with everyone so openly and readily.  But I have a simple request.  PLEASE do not reach out to folks personally.  I know you're trying to help, but a handful of people to whom I've already spoken are contacting me with messages sent to them by fans.  Trust me, gang.  This is what I do for a living.  Please let me reach out to cast and crew.  I promise not to let you down.

That being said; I am looking for anyone who may have contact information for Barry Harman and/or Ford Kinder.  I cannot use their Facebook accounts as suitable contact information, FYI.  So while I appreciate people giving me those, I simply can't do it.  But if you have another route, I'd love to hear it.  For those with the obvious follow-up question, yes, I already have Anne Bryant's contact information.

Thanks, gang!

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3/28/2011 2:47 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
seems like Anne Bryant should have Barry Harman and Clifford (Ford) Kinder's contact information.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/28/2011 4:56 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread


I never knew they were planning to do a Jem movie, it all sounds very interesting, if there is a script it's too bad Hasbro doesn't at least try to turn it into a comic series or graphic novel.


----- Original Post -----
by JATH80 at 3/27/2011 10:04:09 PM

@riot4jem Thanks for sharing that. I've read that somewhere in an interview that Christy gave a few years back that the "Jem Movie" was gonna change the fabric of the Jem series (just like the Transformers Movie). That would have been very interesting to see. In that article from what I remember concerning the animated movie, the film takes place a few years in the future. Aja, Shana and Kimber leave the group. Aja marries Craig and moves to Europe. Shana marries Anthony and becomes a world famous Top designer. Kimber marries Sean and pursues a solo career. Stormer leaves the Misfits and joins the Holograms The Holograms consist of Jem, Raya, Stormer, and new members the Starlight girls Deidre & Lela. During a Live performance from the Mongrels, Jem falls into a trance tells her secret to Rio backstage. Now I can't find the article any where now but I would love to know if there is any truth to this. I would love for Christy to outline the un-produced "Jem Movie" and verify any this info.

----- Original Post -----
by riot4jem at 3/27/2011 7:24:02 AM

It might really be reaching -- but maybe a bonus could be Christy reading the outline for the "Jem Movie" with the Mongrels and their synthesizer Entropy. Stills from episodes could even be used to show the auction and characters -- Riot and Rapture could even play the part of twins Alexander and Alexandra. They seem pretty similar anyway. Long story short, Christy was asked to create an outline for a Sunbow movie, and when Transformers and My Little Pony tanked in movie theaters the Jem movie was scrapped and of course G.I. Joe never got a theatrical release.

One thing I would love to hear talked about is the ending of the Hasbro/Sunbow relationship. Hasbro seems to have stopped Transformers and G.I. Joe cold turkey, but Jem continued through production even after Hasbro canceled the doll line. Around 19 episodes aired after the doll line was canceled. There was an article suggesting that Hasbro continued the show after canceling the doll line to help move product of the shelves. And it sounded like Hasbro would have just dropped Jem mid contract if the doll line continued into 1988.

Also a break down of the 1988 doll line would be nice: American Beauty Jem, Rockin' Romance Jem, Hollywood Jem, a doll just named Jem, Rio 'O Boy, Astral, Regine, the Stingers, new Pizzazz, Graphix, new fashions, new playsets. Hasbro might have a more complete listing then what we have pieced together so far. And I understand there may be slides of dolls like the Stingers -- there is no point in Hasbro being secretive, we have seen almost everything anyway.

Fun facts would be a cool thing too. Ex: Jem was the #1 rated cartoon in Nov 1986, the Jem theme song went triple Platinum by August 87.

And why Rama Llama?

totallyjem.jemmagic.com


Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
3/29/2011 4:02 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
There is only an outline for the movie.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
3/30/2011 12:16 PM
rogue73
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Hey Brian,

   I'm sure this has been brought up many times before,  but can you correct the Jem intro for the first season? Rhino had the "Me and my friends are Jem Girls" intro song as the opening of the first episode. Instead of the original "Jem is Truly Outrageous!" Theme. Not to mention Rhino kept mixing up the two intro themes for the seasons they released. I hope Shout is able to put the correct intros back with the correct seasons. Thanks.

    Lastly, I really think the Jem doll box art is the coolest thing to have on the dvd covers. Like the original VHS release of the Jem Truly Outrageous Movie, and the ones that followed. The artwork is really striking. It makes them so believable. Not to mention the background artwork. The confetti, the geometric designs, and the use of colors. I mean, this was the 80s we're talking about.  Glamour, Glitter, Fashion, and Fame

 

3/30/2011 6:47 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I can only make sure they're correct, if I know which songs definitively go with which seasons/episodes.

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3/30/2011 7:10 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread


Both are identical length, and if Shout! is recreating the original broadcasts, the "Jem" theme should appear on each and every episode.

The masters Rhino had available inexplicably jumped back and forth between the two theme songs.  While it would be great to have "Jem Girls" as an extra on the discs, most fans have shown a preference for the original theme as it was originally broadcast.  The assumption was that the masters Rhino used were taken from both the original syndicated run and the later syndicated repeats, and they did not know, or were not able to, replace the "Jem Girl" versions with the original proper theme.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 3/30/2011 6:47:43 PM

I can only make sure they're correct, if I know which songs definitively go with which seasons/episodes.

Brian

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3/30/2011 7:51 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Really the Episodes 1-26 should have the "Jem theme" - (Jem is Truly Outrageous!/We are the Misfits.)

I thought I remembered "Jem Girl" - (Me and My Friends are Jem Girl" theme showing up right away in the fall of 1987, maybe not. The" Jem Girl" theme is associated with episodes 28-66. No episodes 27, not sure why.

And episodes 08-12 are the extend versions of Truly Outragous/Super Sunday segments from 1985.
5205-08 - “Beginning, The” was (Super Sunday) “Beginning, The,” “Challenge, The,” & “Fire!”
5205-09 - “Disaster” was (Super Sunday) “Nowhere To Go,” “Mansion, The,” & “Yacht, The”
5205-10 - “Kimber’s Rebellion” was (Super Sunday) “Video Clip, The,” “Defections, The,” & “Zapped"
5205-11 - “Frame Up” was (Super Sunday) “Sparks Fly, The,” “Robbery, The” & “Detective, The"
5205-11 - “Battle Of The Bands, The” was (Super Sunday) “Synergy,” “Prisoners” & “Big Contest, The”

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3/30/2011 8:26 PM
adamwade
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
You mean associated with those episodes on the Rhino discs, or associated in general?

Personally I don't recall hearing the Jem Girl theme until they started re-running old episodes, and I can't find any reference to when they stopped.  For sure it was on the episodes by the time they hit USA, but I've looked into it and no one seems to know for sure (at least that I have spoken to) when they were slipped on before then (though as you say I am pretty sure the theme was attached to the re-run episodes during the proper syndicated run).

Would you agree, though, Riot, that most fans would prefer the original Jem theme on the episodes in any case, and "Jem Girl" as an "extra"?  That song causes a lot of strife in the community (because of it's "jingle" quality and the exclusion of male Jem fans) and while it should be preserved, I honestly think a very large portion of people would be much happier with the traditional theme song and if someone who has done as much Jem research as you and I have doesn't know for sure when it appeared, I have a feeling no one may know, haha. :)


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by riot4jem at 3/30/2011 7:51:44 PM

Really the Episodes 1-26 should have the "Jem theme" - (Jem is Truly Outrageous!/We are the Misfits.)

I thought I remembered "Jem Girl" - (Me and My Friends are Jem Girl" theme showing up right away in the fall of 1987, maybe not. The" Jem Girl" theme is associated with episodes 28-66. No episodes 27, not sure why.

And episodes 08-12 are the extend versions of Truly Outragous/Super Sunday segments from 1985.
5205-08 - “Beginning, The” was (Super Sunday) “Beginning, The,” “Challenge, The,” & “Fire!”
5205-09 - “Disaster” was (Super Sunday) “Nowhere To Go,” “Mansion, The,” & “Yacht, The”
5205-10 - “Kimber’s Rebellion” was (Super Sunday) “Video Clip, The,” “Defections, The,” & “Zapped"
5205-11 - “Frame Up” was (Super Sunday) “Sparks Fly, The,” “Robbery, The” & “Detective, The"
5205-11 - “Battle Of The Bands, The” was (Super Sunday) “Synergy,” “Prisoners” & “Big Contest, The”

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3/30/2011 10:55 PM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread


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by rogue73 at 3/30/2011 12:16:06 PM

I really think the Jem doll box art is the coolest thing to have on the dvd covers. Like the original VHS release of the Jem Truly Outrageous Movie, and the ones that followed.

 

As much as I LOVE box art, I think it's too much different from the cartoon layout. I think it would make great collector's cards, though, as I suggested in this poll we're having on the JemCon forum. Shout! created some great original artwork for Transformer and G.I. Joe sets and I trust them completely!!!

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by adamwade at 3/30/2011 8:26:08 PM

Would you agree, though, Riot, that most fans would prefer the original Jem theme on the episodes in any case, and "Jem Girl" as an "extra"?

I would!

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3/31/2011 2:47 AM
adamwade
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Hehe, yeah, thanks for agreeing - I don't normally pretend to speak for the masses, but I do think the vast majority of Jem fans want the Jem theme even if (which it's so funny none of us can track down with all the details we are able to unearth) it did appear originally with some of the later episodes.  I do know for a fact it appeared on some of the Rhino discs on episodes it did not originally air one.

As to the doll box art, I agree - it was a very different art style (though very good in and of it's own).  One criticism many had with the Rhino sets was the cover art, but I too have faith that Shout! will do this correctly.  Brian is good people. :)

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by CD77 at 3/30/2011 10:55:53 PM



----- Original Post -----
by rogue73 at 3/30/2011 12:16:06 PM

I really think the Jem doll box art is the coolest thing to have on the dvd covers. Like the original VHS release of the Jem Truly Outrageous Movie, and the ones that followed.

 

As much as I LOVE box art, I think it's too much different from the cartoon layout. I think it would make great collector's cards, though, as I suggested in this poll we're having on the JemCon forum. Shout! created some great original artwork for Transformer and G.I. Joe sets and I trust them completely!!!

----- Original Post -----
by adamwade at 3/30/2011 8:26:08 PM

Would you agree, though, Riot, that most fans would prefer the original Jem theme on the episodes in any case, and "Jem Girl" as an "extra"?

I would!



3/31/2011 3:58 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I have one issue with the doll box art, that would exclude the Stingers, Regine, Astral, Rock'n Curl Jem, all the 1988 Jem dolls. Which is okay, but if the presentation art (same as first year fashions) was used then it should include all of the 1988 dolls and fashion too. I don't think Hasbro could be too protective of that art now, because it's been 25 years. And the dolls and most of the new fashions were shown through out episodes 28-66. One Jem Too Many, Rock'n Roll Express, Mardi Gras, etc.

adamwade, did the Jem movie outline say Shana and Aja left -- I went to look at what I have because I didn't remember any of that. But I have the outline for the two part episode revision -- it's not in that.

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3/31/2011 7:07 AM
JackDVD78@aol.com
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I know when JEM gets released or gets delivered or however I am taking a work day off and having a marathon.
3/31/2011 3:20 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I double checked, and the "Jem Girl" theme was not registered with the copyright office or BMI. So really there does not seem to be any way to find out when they started using it without check the episodes at the library of congress. I'm pretty sure they played Jem Girl from September - October of 1987 on -- got remember the dolls were canceled in November, so they wouldn't have changed the theme to go along with the toy commercials after that. It must of been record at, or around, the same time as the commercials -- which aired in the summer, if not spring, of 1987

I'm not offended by the Jem Girl theme, but a lot of boys/men were/are. Personally I would like to see it with the episodes it was associated with -- not before episode 28. But having it as an extra bonus and only attaching the original theme to all the episodes would make the majority of the male Jem fans happy.

Seems like the dvds could have a choice either the "Jem Girl" or "Jem Boy" option -- so the Jem Girl would include the Jem Girl theme for episodes 28-66, but the Jem Boy option would only play the original theme. That would make the girls and purist happy, and give the boys an option that would make them happy too.

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3/31/2011 7:52 PM
damobb5
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'm so excited about the release of JEM on DVD again! Please please please fix one thing..Pizazz's hair ( and the roadster and anything else in the colour) is meant to be neon green...not Mustard yellow! That really irked me about the last releases...By the looks of the other Shout releases we will be in for a treat! Damian
3/31/2011 8:52 PM
adamwade
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I don't have copies of the movie outline on me, but I can certainly check as soon as I get home in the morning.  You mean the Jem movie that wasn't actually done, right, not TO (the "pilot" episodes)?

As to the Jem Girl theme, I checked my notes just to make sure what I said was accurate in my previous post; according to Anne it was called "Fast Jem Theme" on the sheet music itself.  There is an interesting story regarding that song and it's recording that I need to gather a few more details about before I put together, but unfortunately it doesn't include the details of when it was actually used (last I spoke with her Anne hadn't seen many of the episodes to begin with so I don't believe she'd know, and even if she still has the creation date that wouldn't be an indicator of when it began to be used).

I side on the "purist" end myself, but personally I don't remember the Jem girl theme until later - quite frankly when I recall it I remember how uncomfortable I felt watching the beginning of the show with my family when it came out right at the beginning and said it was for girls, haha.  Of course, we know now it was completely intentionally done to appeal to boys as well, as Christy has confirmed. 

It's just my memory, though, that we didn't see it until later - I can't say with certainty, just what I have picked up from different conversations over the years had led me to believe that it wasn't used in the original run at all.  That said, your reasoning (regarding the cancellation of the line) does make sense - thought it is possible that the change was submitted but didn't take effect until after the line was cancelled as it happened so abruptly (from everyone I have spoken to the lag time could be quite long for something like that - and we know it was abrupt as we have the Toy Fare previews with the dolls still scheduled to be shown, albeit the downsized version of what was originally planned for '88).

All that said, I would *love* the option to play one or the other, which is really the best of both worlds.  It's not just male fans, but I know quite a few female fans have complained over the years about the song.  It's just generally disliked because, as I believe Anne was directed, it was much more "jingle" like and the classic song is soooooo good (neat note - although Barry wrote all the lyrics to the Holograms/Misfits/Stingers/etc. songs in the series proper, Anne actually wrote the lyrics to the original theme song).

I'm so happy to see these come out anyway, but if it was technically possible I'd love to have both versions of the songs available (perhaps asking you to select when you say "Play All"?) so everyone was happy.

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by riot4jem at 3/31/2011 3:58:11 AM

adamwade, did the Jem movie outline say Shana and Aja left -- I went to look at what I have because I didn't remember any of that. But I have the outline for the two part episode revision -- it's not in that.

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3/31/2011 11:14 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

I could be wrong but I seem to recall the Jem Girl theme was used around the third season and yes as a boy it did make it a little harder to be a fan. After all this time though I don't mind whether it's used or not but if they do use it I hope they put it in later on.

4/1/2011 4:12 AM
damobb5
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
This user on YouTube also has some of the other JEM commercials and they look to be in good quality... These along with Pranceatron's would be quite a cohesive set...They feature the rarer ones with Danse, Video, Raya etc, http://www.youtube.com/user/xBeatrushx I don't know the uploader personally but perhaps they can be contacted? I know Id love to see these on the DVD's!
4/1/2011 8:06 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'm pretty positive, I remember the Jem Girl theme aired on the episodes fall of 1987 on WGN -- I remember the song being on while I was setting the table for supper. And it was on before school on Fox 55. I do think I remember hearing it was not originally on the first episodes for that season (episodes 28-66), years later. It seems like it had to be very few like 5 to 10 of those 39 episodes that did not have the Jem Girl theme. I think it starts getting confusing because they went back and added it to all the episodes included 1-26, so it did replace it, but mostly on the first season (1-26) and maybe a few of the episodes 28 and up.

It's actually hard to imagine the Jem Girl theme wasn't used from the start because all the other Sunbow shows did have a specific theme/opening for each season -- I think it was at least intended to be the theme from 28 on, even if it was not ready when the first episodes of that season aired.

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4/3/2011 8:15 AM
TrulyOutrageous86
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I Just Want To Thank Brian For All His Time & Energy For Doing All He Can Do For Us "JEMfans" As He Probably Already Knows, We Truly Appreciate All That He Is Doing Trying To Get Us As Much Of What We Would Like To See Eventually Sitting On Our DVD Shelves In The Future, Again Brian. Thank You So Much, To Be Corny U Are "Truly Outrageous"!!!!
4/3/2011 9:06 AM
Arashi842
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
@B Ward
Brian,
I can't say how...exciting this news is. There aren't enough words to describe how amazing and awesome Shout! is.
As others have said, I'll be getting this as soon as you release it.

I don't have as much special stuff that others do, but I would regret not at least piping up and offering it, even if it's not used.

I, like several other collectors, do have some production cels from the show, including the painted model sheets. On the slim chance you want them, let me know. I know it's not overly special, but I will do anything I can to help support this. http://arashi842.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=208132  <-- Misfits Album from Glitter N' Gold.

Also, as an extra idea, going along with the album concept... my husband suggested that it would be neat if the design on the actual DVD was printed to look like a vinyl record from Jem and the Holograms, and/or the Misfits or Stingers.
4/3/2011 12:05 PM
zg123
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

how cool is that! i wish shout! will use that Misfits Album from Glitter N' Gold picutre. what a great piece of animation!

and the vinyl idea was awsome too. really something to think about.

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by Arashi842 at 4/3/2011 9:06:33 AM

I, like several other collectors, do have some production cels from the show, including the painted model sheets. On the slim chance you want them, let me know. I know it's not overly special, but I will do anything I can to help support this. http://arashi842.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=208132  <-- Misfits Album from Glitter N' Gold.

Also, as an extra idea, going along with the album concept... my husband suggested that it would be neat if the design on the actual DVD was printed to look like a vinyl record from Jem and the Holograms, and/or the Misfits or Stingers.
4/3/2011 12:28 PM
Cronos
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I also like the vinyl record idea, it remindes me of the Pushing Daisies season 1 discs that were made to look like pies, it just makes them a little more interesting.
4/3/2011 9:12 PM
n8twing
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
One thing we haven't discussed is the episode order for the back-end of the series. It's very important to keep them in AIRING order, not PRODUCTION order. The last nine episodes on the dvd set should be the nine episodes with the Stingers... The Stingers Hit Town (parts 1 and 2); Midsummer Night's Madness; Riot's Hope; Straight from the Heart; That Old Houdini Magic; A Change Of Heart; The Day the Music Died; A Father Should Be...; anyone have the official airing order, to make sure the continuity bits flow together? I know the production order would make for jarring viewing.
4/3/2011 10:44 PM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Are you sure of the order you posted, n8twing? I think both airing order and production order are different. Read here.

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4/4/2011 4:01 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I would assume they are releasing them by air dates instead of production numbers. So Video War, Beauty And The Rock Promoter, and Homeland, Heartland would more then likely be mixed in with the Stinger episodes. If they went with production order it would have to be Starbright(s), The World Hunger Shindig, then Truly Outrageous expended episodes. The production numbers would also give us Scandal and The Presidential Dilemma before Raya and Jetta join the bands.

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4/4/2011 5:41 AM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
yeah, production order would make no sense

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4/4/2011 8:27 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

I would love bonus cds included with this set, 1 for each band. It would be the coolest bonus feature if the cds came in the "original artwork" like the one Arashi posted of The Misfits album cover from "Glitter N' Gold". If they could come in cardboard sleeves to replicate album covers and have those paper covers slide out like big albums used to have, that would be phenomenal. Maybe they could have us vote on our favorite songs to decide on which tracks to include.

My vote goes for the following:

JEM & THE HOLOGRAMS

Nightmare

Takin' a Train

Time Is Running Out

Music Is Magic

Deception

THE MISFITS

Gotta Be Fast

Off & Running

It Takes A Lot

Congratulations

Universal Appeal

 

----- Original Post -----
by Arashi842 at 4/3/2011 9:06:33 AM

I, like several other collectors, do have some production cels from the show, including the painted model sheets. On the slim chance you want them, let me know. I know it's not overly special, but I will do anything I can to help support this. http://arashi842.rubberslug.com/gallery/inv_info.asp?ItemID=208132  <-- Misfits Album from Glitter N' Gold.
4/5/2011 9:07 PM
n8twing
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Hmmm, I thought all nine Stingers eps were last. At least, that's the way I remembered them airing on USA. It doesnt make sense to have that HUGE impact of The Stingers hitting town and taking over "Misfits Music", changing the name to "Stinger Sound"-- and then have no one mention it for 3 episodes. What do you guys think? Preserve the "original airing order " or put Stingers eps in the back nine? (I think we all agree, production order makes no sense)
4/5/2011 10:27 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Surely there must be some kind of definitive "fan preferred story continuity order" listing for the episodes?  I'll take continuity over airdate or production order any day of the week, as often BOTH airdate and production order have issues (take Season 3 of Transformers, for example).  I'm not overly familiar with Jem's later seasons, so I can't say much on the subject.  But yeah, continuity wins over all else every time in my books.

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4/5/2011 11:44 PM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
That makes sense. That's how they were originally aired in Italy:

27. The Talent Search 1
28. The Talent Search 2
29. Scandal
30. The Presidential Dilemma
31. The Bands Break Up
32. Danse Time
33. Journey To Shangri-la
34. One Jem Too Many
35. Father's Day
36. Music Is Magic
37. The Jazz Player
38. Treasure Hunt
39. Trick Or Techrat
40. The Fan
41. Rock N' Roll Express
42. Middle Of Nowhere
43. Roxy Rumbles
44. Aztec Enchantment
45. KJEM
46. Video Wars
47. Renaissance Woman
48. Alone Again
49. Mardi Gras
50. Homeland, Heartland
51. Journey Through Time
52. Beauty And The Rock Promoter
53. Britrock
54. Out Of The Past
55. Hollywood Jem 1
56. Hollywood Jem 2
57. The Stingers Hit Town 1
58. The Stingers Hit Town 2
59. Midsummer Night's Madness
60. The Day Music Died
61. That Old Houdini Magic
62. Straight From The Heart
63. Change Of Heart
64. Riot's Hope
65. A Father Should Be...

This order partially matches French DVDs order, so I assume that's how Jem was distributed in Europe. Does this order match any other listing?

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4/6/2011 4:01 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Something is missing from this list, that's only 38 episodes, and I thought Father's day was not released/dubbed in Europe.

If Shout! doesn't go with the air dates or production order, it will take years to come up with an order that would make everyone happy. I'm expecting the air date order since the Transformers/G.I. Joe episodes seem to follow the same order as Rhino -- don't own Rhino's Transformers/G.I. Joe so I don't know that for sure.

I'm a die-hard production date kind of guy, but I'm fine with the air date order -- I just hope a third episode order does not come into play. it's already too confusing. :)

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4/6/2011 7:09 AM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I only started from episode 27 because, until Glitter n Gold, it's the same order as US airing. Father's Day was dubbed in Italy but not in France.

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4/6/2011 8:57 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Sorry, they are all there -- I missed it, because there is no US "5205-27" episode and with slight order difference I didn't catch it. So I wasn't taking that into account.

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4/6/2011 11:06 AM
n8twing
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
That Italy order makes sense, continuity-wise. I seem to recall this is how USA Network aired them (which is where I first saw season three). I'm a fan of using this episode order. The Stingers made such a huge, game-changing impact that it seems all their episodes need to flow together (with, or course, "A Father Should Be...." the last farewell to the series). Sometimes, when a show realizes they made continuity errors in original airings, they do correct the episode order in later airings. Perhaps that's what happened with JEM?
4/6/2011 2:26 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Basically USA Network showed them in production order -- so the Stinger episodes were by themselves, but Scandal and the Presidential Dilemma were before Talent Search. Putting Raya and Jetta in episodes before the joined the bands. They also aired Starbright(s), World Hunger Shindig, Last Resort and In Stitches before the Truly Outrageous (extended) episodes. Which does not really bother me because TO! is really a flashback, so as long as it's before Talent Search any spot would work.

Odd thing about the US Network airing of the episodes was the Jem Jam(s) (5205-23, 24) were after Glitter & Gold (5205-26) and Alone Again (5205-49) was aired after Hollywood Jem (5205-56, 57) -- so even their system was flawed.

I still have the episodes, I record from USA Network.

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4/8/2011 9:14 AM
JackDVD78@aol.com
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

I am curious what kind of packaging will be used if a COMPLETE Series Box Set is released. Would be cool if several designs were created and fans were able to VOTE on the chosen product. I love the G.I. Case, and while TRANSFORMERS is great, that G.I. Case is SOLID!

4/8/2011 9:32 AM
JackDVD78@aol.com
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Also, Please PLEASE let the transfers be PROGRESSIVE Scans and not Interlaced. Interlacing on animation is really distracting. I believe my old RHINO DVDs are interlaced.
4/9/2011 6:43 AM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I love the idea of adding Sunbow Model Sheets for the girls in all their fashions. If it's possible that would be a must have for the bonus material. But there should be two sets one starting with "MP #5205-01 J-1", etc., starting with Starbright and also a set of Super Sunday (Truly Outrageous!) mold sheets too.

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4/9/2011 4:33 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
The only benefit to having the DVDs be progressive scan is if a film source still exists for them.  Otherwise, they would be converted from interlaced broadcast master tapes, and as such forcing them into progressive would cause "jaggies" on the edges and compromise the quality.  Whatever the source material is, the DVDs will match as closely as possible.  Besides, your DVD player/TV should be able to force an interlaced source into progressive if it isn't capable of handling interlacing properly.

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4/9/2011 4:50 PM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

We first saw Jem in mini segments, then edited together for the TO movie, and were used to that "version". But when the extended version was shown (during Season Two), it provided many missing details to the story, like Aja's harrowing return back to the group in Las Vegas after being locked in a bus luggage panel, The Holograms being awarded at the Battle of the Bands by Mr. Sands and Jerrica and Rio's confrontation with Eric Raymond afterwards. These details are important to the story and should remain intact. This is why I feel the "extended version" should be used in the Shout Factory set. Maybe the edited version could be used if Shout does a stand alone title like their G.I. Joes ones, but ONLY then. But as much we all love Jem, we honestly don't need multiple releases of the Truly Outrageous story.

4/9/2011 5:06 PM
Hondo
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

In Los Angeles, the Jem Girl theme song debuted with Season Three (Talent Search). And when the previous seasons episodes were repeated during then-current Season Three, the newer Jem Girl theme played. Every once in awhile, the original theme would pop up.

4/9/2011 5:35 PM
Hondo
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Brian, thanks for being available to us Jem fans with our inquiries, even before the wonderful news of a Shout/Jem release. I'm  stoked that you're even listening to our suggestions for the best possible JEM dvds ever. I'm sorry if we get a little finatical, but we've wanted this since forever. While I'd love to have the most extensive JEM dvd collection , the entire series (or third season/part 2) remastered would be great. Unused voice actor interviews, toy commercials and artwork superior to the Rhino sets would be a bonus. That doll box art rocks. Thanks for listening to input from the people who  actually buy the dvds, the fans.

 

4/9/2011 6:35 PM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I don't think we have to worry about the extended versions of the Truly Outrageous episodes being used. Those were on the Rhino release. But if there was a choice of one or the other, then the extended episodes should be used. But it would be great to have the segmants/TO movie version as a bonus or stand alone DVD. It would be nice to see the original again, along with hearing the original 1985 score before they slipped instruments from other 1986 episodes into the extended version.

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4/10/2011 12:17 AM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I agree. As much as I love the extended episodes, background music is totally WRONG!
Think of the funky music during Rio and Jem's romantic dialogue on the yacht or the not-so-dramatic tune before the bomb explodes at the Mansion.

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4/10/2011 9:52 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
We have got two questions that need an answer ... and the DVD would be the perfect place to find out.

1.) Was Synergy (the computer itself/jukebox, keyboard monster computer) a Hasbro design or developed by Sunbow? a.i. was there ever a computer playset developed?
2.) Why Rama Llama as Jem's Mascot? (more of a question for Hasbro)

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4/16/2011 3:39 PM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Riot, I see your point concerning the "movie" version of TO. I personnally loved the extended instrumental medley that played at the end (available on YouTube) when it was originally broadcast as a movie on KCOP-Channel 13.

The Rama Llama thing never made sense to me, just that it was just another premium offer when you purchased a Jem toy. I had the Dream Tour cassette along with the accompanying concert program. Also, the audio cassette featuring Who Is He Kissing, Jealousy & Universal Appeal which was not available with any of the dolls. I remember receiving a special Jem post card and mention of a Jem MTV satin jacket offer for the dolls.

Hasbro releasing a Synergy doll instead of a computer playset (ala the Rock Backstager etc) just seemed to reinforce their focus striclty on the fashion doll (little girl) market. The "laptop/tablet" the Synergy doll had was supposed to be how she created her holograms, but then, who exactly is the doll Synergy, if she is not a computer. Maybe this version is a robot in human form, capable of traveling with Jerrica more freely than she could as the big wall unit in the cartoon. I know, I think too much. Sorry.   

4/17/2011 4:56 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
They definitely focused, on the dolls over the playsets. There are a lot of reasons for that, cost to make, selling price, even the size. A lot of kids wouldn't have room for all the playsets. A lot of parents would only buy one or two playsets, and Jem already had three -- then four with KJEM. Hasbro creating the Synergy doll over a Synergy playset is the same reason they were fitting the idea of a drummer (finally caving in with Raya) -- Hand held play, by setting Raya up at her drums that automatically limited her play. All of sudden she's on display instead of being picked up and posed, moved and interacting with the other dolls. So then the girls would lose interest in that character/toy quickly.

Synergy the computer was so stylized, that I'm external interesting in finding out if it was a Hasbro design or a Sunbow design.

Yes, Rama Llama was a mail-in, when you got your cash with the Save up to $9.00 dollars on Glitter'n Gold Jem, Rio, & Roadster. Rama Llama and the Dream Tour cassette were both offers that came with that check. And then she was going to be in the 1988 inpackage mail-in too, like the club offer and the MTV jacket.

But I would love to know what Hasbro was thinking -- why a Llama of all things?. Was she just an acquisition from a small toy company Hasbro purchased, they were just sticking her in Jem to try to get rid of her?

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4/17/2011 7:21 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Synergy as computer was a Sunbow design.  The only materials Hasbro sent to anyone associated with the show were photographs (mostly Polariods) of the doll prototypes and brief descriptions.  As far as I know, they weren't even sent the doll art from the packaging.

Although Hasbro could have done a Synergy playset (much like they did with the Starlight girls, even things created for the show were fair game, unlike other such properties - like He-man - where the studio retained some ownership of the characters they created), but it seems they really were not much interested besides those Starlight girls in recreating anything about the show.  From everything I understand they saw it as a one-way street most of the time.

As to Rama Llama, I don't think anyone has uncovered exactly what it's origin was.  I do know that Christy had no knowledge of it, and hadn't even really seen one until I sent her a picture of one I recently acquired.  I won't repeat her comments, but I don't think she found it the most attractive toy she ever saw. ;)  The "storyline" around him regarding Jem's world tour was one of the directions the line was taking - the "World Tour" theme - but Christy (and no one at Sunbow I have spoken with) knew anything about him being added to the show (although there were quite a few things Hasbro had suggested for a possible additional season, Rama Llama was not one of them).
4/18/2011 3:54 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I know Sunbow knew nothing about Rama Llama, I was hoping that information or someone from Hasbro would have some knowledge of her and the concept behind her.

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4/18/2011 7:09 AM
David76
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
The previous DVD's of Jem, much like the other Sunbow shows, have more differences from broadcast than you might notice at first. The first story arc is a little more complicated than the rest (Super Sunday segments, half hour episodes, remastered versions).
If you are interested in isolating as many issues as possible, check Garrett's list here:
http://www.cartoonreviewsite.com/changes/jem/jem.shtml
Thanks for all your efforts.
4/18/2011 12:20 PM
totally5664
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

@Brian Ward: Please, look into getting episode commentary from Christy Marx and the other writers. The episode commentaries on the Rhino DVD were outstanding. It would be great to have the Rhino DVD commentaries and some new ones for the Shout DVD.

4/19/2011 4:02 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by adamwade at 4/17/2011 7:21:44 PM

Synergy as computer was a Sunbow design.  The only materials Hasbro sent to anyone associated with the show were photographs (mostly Polariods) of the doll prototypes and brief descriptions.  As far as I know, they weren't even sent the doll art from the packaging.

I had to think about that, but it seems like Hasbro sent some type of illustrations to Sunbow after the first round of prototype Polariods. If I'm remembering right, then that was more then likely the renderings or presentation art, but not the box art. Only the Raya and Jetta box art could have been finished early enough that Hasbro could send that to Sunbow before their two part episode was started. And somehow Sunbow got a hold of Bill Sanders original illustrations for the plane, Clash (black hair), Video (silver hair), and Danse (long hair).

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4/20/2011 6:32 PM
adamwade
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
My understanding is that there were things before (like the design of the "M" plane before she was even "Jem" when they were just doing the initial planning), and after (the later products introduced) but out of that batch which led to the actual initial production work once everything was finalized, Polaroids are really all they had. Most people I have talked to only saw things like box art if they saw it in the store.  I'll have to ask about Synergy specifically, but I am 99% sure they just got the briefest of descriptions and nothing visual.  

----- Original Post -----
by riot4jem at 4/19/2011 4:02:07 AM



----- Original Post -----
by adamwade at 4/17/2011 7:21:44 PM

Synergy as computer was a Sunbow design.  The only materials Hasbro sent to anyone associated with the show were photographs (mostly Polariods) of the doll prototypes and brief descriptions.  As far as I know, they weren't even sent the doll art from the packaging.

I had to think about that, but it seems like Hasbro sent some type of illustrations to Sunbow after the first round of prototype Polariods. If I'm remembering right, then that was more then likely the renderings or presentation art, but not the box art. Only the Raya and Jetta box art could have been finished early enough that Hasbro could send that to Sunbow before their two part episode was started. And somehow Sunbow got a hold of Bill Sanders original illustrations for the plane, Clash (black hair), Video (silver hair), and Danse (long hair).

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4/23/2011 7:34 PM
Hondo
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

To: CD77

You may have a point about the doll box art. I've imagined it countless times on covers for the doll cassettes, and on cd covers, but as awesome as it is, it may distract from the point that it's promoting a cartoon, not live action. And the right visual is important. I remember seeing the old Family Home Entertainment vhs tapes at video stores in the eighties, thinking about if people unfamiliar with Jem would actually think it was live action, despite the fully animated banner on the box. But the artwork is just so striking, it's difficult not to want it included on the new Jem project. The Jem pic in Shout's New Release section is pretty good too, I guess either will do for me.

4/24/2011 12:47 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Brian certainly is good people. He's a great guy, and he also cares about the fans of the shows. I truly appreciate that.

As for the dvd box art, the more I thought about it I decided a cartoon version would most likely be the best way to go. However, I do hope they would use the original jem doll box are in some way. Like collector card set or something. Stickers maybe. Or perhaps a mini poster.  I really love the idea of having the DVDs look like vinyl records. That's what I was thinking with the Rhino set. Why didn't Rhino do that. I liked their earring look on the dvds, but the record was more obvious being that it's a round disc, like a record baby. Right round, like a record baby.

Also the complete set in something like a pink boombox would be killer. Of course it would have to be neon pink. Maybe Some glitter around the Jem logo. Or glitter letters that say "Truly Outrageous!" In any case, it has to be flashy. That's Jem.

 

Aside from all that, I certainly enjoy reading all the postings on here for Jem, as well as for G.I. Joe & Transformers G1.

4/24/2011 10:54 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Art cards would be a great extra much like BCI did with their He-Man/She-Ra releases but it probably wouldn't be in their budget.  

----- Original Post -----
by rogue73 at 4/24/2011 12:47:11 PM

Brian certainly is good people. He's a great guy, and he also cares about the fans of the shows. I truly appreciate that.

As for the dvd box art, the more I thought about it I decided a cartoon version would most likely be the best way to go. However, I do hope they would use the original jem doll box are in some way. Like collector card set or something. Stickers maybe. Or perhaps a mini poster.  I really love the idea of having the DVDs look like vinyl records. That's what I was thinking with the Rhino set. Why didn't Rhino do that. I liked their earring look on the dvds, but the record was more obvious being that it's a round disc, like a record baby. Right round, like a record baby.

Also the complete set in something like a pink boombox would be killer. Of course it would have to be neon pink. Maybe Some glitter around the Jem logo. Or glitter letters that say "Truly Outrageous!" In any case, it has to be flashy. That's Jem.

 

Aside from all that, I certainly enjoy reading all the postings on here for Jem, as well as for G.I. Joe & Transformers G1.

4/29/2011 9:45 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

I would guess this is a pre-mature question, but how far are we from seeing DVD release artwork etc? Three months away? I guess I am also assuming this will be released before Christmas season? (Fingers Crossed for a Complete Series Box Set)

4/30/2011 12:23 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'm really looking forward to finally owning Jem on DVD! Been losing the "chase out-of-print releases in multiple regions" game for years now.

My question for @B Ward: I know Transformers and GI Joe ended up being closed captioned for broadcast on The Hub, obviously long after the DVD sets came out. Assuming that The Hub continues with this standard practice for Jem's broadcast, would they be likely to make the captions available to Shout! for the DVDs? If so, would Shout! be willing to incorporate them?

I understand that captions or subtitles are generally too cost-prohibitive for you guys to spearhead, and that the situation is always waaaay more complicated than it looks to those of us on the outside!
4/30/2011 3:08 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Brian -  Just fired off an e-mail to you with the toy commercial I mentioned attached.  Also sent a second one with a MASK commercial I dug up.  If I can be of any further assistance, don't hesitate to ask!

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5/1/2011 1:13 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Thanks for this piece of info. The Hub isn't available in my area and I did wonder if the old Sunbow shows would be captioned when The Hub aired them. Nice to know that Hasbro/The Hub is trying to make these shows as accessible as possible.

----- Original Post -----
by wednesday at 4/30/2011 12:23:43 AM

My question for @B Ward: I know Transformers and GI Joe ended up being closed captioned for broadcast on The Hub, obviously long after the DVD sets came out. Assuming that The Hub continues with this standard practice for Jem's broadcast, would they be likely to make the captions available to Shout! for the DVDs? If so, would Shout! be willing to incorporate them?

5/1/2011 9:56 PM
wednesday
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Discovery-owned channels are very good about staying regs-compliant, and the Hub's been no exception. Besides, no one at Hasbro wants their flagship brands at the center of an accessibility scandal, no matter how old the heritage shows are or how late at night they usually run. ^^;

(With Jem running at the top of their evening block, I suppose I shouldn't be all "assuming they continue with this practice," but one doesn't like to hex it.)
5/2/2011 6:26 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Wednesday, unfortunately, closed captioning for broadcast is a different kind of file that isn't compatible with DVDs. And their existence really only makes their conversion for a DVD-compatible file a VERY small fraction cheaper. So I'm afraid they don't help us that much.

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5/2/2011 10:16 PM
wednesday
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Rats. Well, like I said, I figure it's always more complicated than it looks to the outsider, but it was worth asking. :) (Spot the layperson. I know there's line 21 data hanging out in the CEA-708 captions The Hub is using, and I know NTSC DVD video can carry line 21 captions, but I had no idea how portable the data was. Now I'm curious, so this will take up my reading time for a few days.)

Thanks, though! I really appreciate the upfront answer.
5/4/2011 9:01 AM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
On the JemCon messageboard, poll goes on about the extras we fans most want on this set. You're welcome to have a look, Brian!
Click here to poll!

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5/4/2011 1:29 PM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Wednesday, since you're eager to learn, which we're always fans of, you're looking for the difference between .cap files used for broadcast and .scc files used for DVD. Hope tha helps!

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5/10/2011 4:29 PM
Quentin
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Any information on when Jem is going to be released this year and is there going to be a option to buy the entire complete series at once like they are doing with M.A.S.K.? That would be sweet. Maybe a bonus CD or DVD with some of the more popular songs from the show could be included in it?
5/13/2011 8:16 AM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Could be a bonus cd. There is currently a poll on Shout's Facebook Page asking fans for their favorite Jem/Misfits songs. Hope they can include a whole bunch since there are sooo many to choose from.

For what it's worth, here are my faves:

JEM

 "Jealousy"

"The Real Me"

"Deception"

"Time Is Runnin' Out"

"Too Close"

"Love Unites Us"

"Show Me The Way"

"Nightmare"

"Takin' a Train"

THE MISFITS

"You Gotta Be Fast"

"Congratulations"

"It Takes A Lot"

"We're Off and Running"

I think a bonus cd for each Jem & The Misfits in cardboard sleeves simulating a record album would be PHENOMENAL!!!

5/13/2011 12:34 PM
CD77
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RE: The Official JEM Thread


----- Original Post -----
by SparkleRC at 5/13/2011 8:16:07 AM

I think a bonus cd for each Jem & The Misfits in cardboard sleeves simulating a record album would be PHENOMENAL!!!

Great idea! But let's not forget the Stingers and Duets and Guest Artists!!!

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5/14/2011 5:09 PM
Hondo
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

To: all (especially) BRIAN.

The best Jem songs are all from season one and season two. They were well written and extremely catchy. The vocals and production rivaled any 80's pop that was on the radio back then. The non-kiddie approach to the songs is no doubt what helped make a cartoon about a rock star so authentic. This is true of ALL season one and two songs (especially Like A Dream, Deception, Twilight In Paris, Click/Clash, Music is Magic, Winning Is Everything, Who Is He Kissing, Universal Appeal, I Am A Giant, You Outta See The View From Here, Gimme Gimme Gimme, Queen Of Rock and Roll, Rock and Roll Is Forever, Love Is Here, Set Your Sails, When It's Only Me And The Music, She Makes An Impression, There's A Melody Playing, There's Nobody Better, Friend Or Stranger, We Can Change It, Share A Little Bit, Glitter and Gold, It Takes A Lot, We're Off And Running, Can't Get My Love Together). These songs and others  from season one and two have real pop appeal and make you sing them even when you are not watching JEM.. They are Jem classics and alot of them were re-used in season three. The last (3rd) season songs are good but don't compare to first and second songs. And it would be a smashing idea for a cd to include the doll box artwork on the cover and cartoon art for the dvd's.   

5/26/2011 7:05 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
If there are any plans for art cards or fan art, I'd love to submit: http://n8twing.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3e2bwu Also have plans for Holograms, Misfits & Stingers. :)
5/27/2011 6:50 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
Maybe they could include "unreleased" bonus tracks of duets with Lena Lerner and Luna Dark.

----- Original Post -----
by CD77 at 5/13/2011 12:34:02 PM



----- Original Post -----
by SparkleRC at 5/13/2011 8:16:07 AM

I think a bonus cd for each Jem & The Misfits in cardboard sleeves simulating a record album would be PHENOMENAL!!!

Great idea! But let's not forget the Stingers and Duets and Guest Artists!!!

www.jemeleholograms.it
5/27/2011 6:46 PM
brooklynn
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Hi,

I was wondering if you knew when the MTV jacket became available for the Jem & the Hologram dolls?

I bought one & have had it carefully tucked away since then, it's new-like condition. Possibly 1986? thanks!

5/28/2011 5:47 AM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
brooklynn, I think your question is more suitable for the JemCon forum. Here we're discussing the upcoming DVDs. By the way, any news?

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5/28/2011 1:11 PM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I'm watching the Jem mini marathon on The Hub right now. Instead of showing the expected "Extended" version of the beginning story (created to fluff out the 90 minute movie into five 30 minute episodes), they somehow crammed in a few of the "Extended" scenes together with the 90 minute Truly Outrageous which ran in only four episodes (a first ever) with the fifth episode being Starbright Part 1(the best episode ever of the series - animation wise).  

Brian: please consider using the plastic box (with multiple inner plastic trys) for the Shout Factory Jem dvd sets. I LOATHE slim cases with the outer cardboard/paper sleeve.  Thank you.

5/31/2011 11:47 AM
Sheri330
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Last weekend, May 28, 2011, The Hub TV Network aired the Super Saturday/Sunday version of the pilot episode The Beginning. I really hope that the rest of these episodes will appear on the DVD's along with The Truly Outrageous VHS movie. The Hub also The ORIGINAL JEM: THEME SONG, Bumpers, Closed Captioning [CC] and they aired different credits to Starbright Part One which I have read on some message boards aired on TV in Europe. I hope all of these turn up on the DVD's. I also hope that Shout Factory releases a JEM soundtrack of some kind. Can you imagine if all of us JEM fans past and present bought these CD's and made them a top 10 hit on The Billboard charts?
5/31/2011 4:10 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Regarding the masters, I have--what I think--is pretty good news.  I've taken a look at the original broadcast masters and have decided that they're certainly good enough to release.  So I've jettisoned the Rhino masters.  There should be no Rhino-like errors in this set.

Good news; no?

Brian

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6/1/2011 7:18 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
EXCELLENT news!!! How's the set coming along? Do you have to watch every episode?
6/1/2011 12:35 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I GET to watch every episode.  :)

The set's coming along splendidly.  Finished up with some aspects of bonus material.  Hard at work on others.  But everything is running pretty smoothly, so I certainly can't complain.  I think fans are gonna love it!

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6/1/2011 1:54 PM
Sheri330
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thank You so much for the wonderful news Brian, and for all of your hard work and dedication into making all of this come to life. "Enjoy the show." :)
6/1/2011 2:56 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hey Brian, did you get those links I sent along a few weeks back?  Haven't heard a confirmation from ya.

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6/2/2011 12:08 AM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/1/2011 12:35:00 PM

I GET to watch every episode.  :)

Now we all want to know what's your favourite episode, Brian! ;-)

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6/2/2011 5:59 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Can't wait to see the finished product. I imagine the packaging will be very colorful.

So do you have to watch every episode of every set you produce for quality control/package write-up, etc?

6/2/2011 8:51 AM
Sheri330
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Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
The Futon Critic Website had a press release that will make JEM fans VERY happy. The Hub's Memorial Day Weekend JEM Marathon broke ratings records not since The Hub's debut last year did they get such HIGH ratings! :) Here is the press release: http://thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2011/06/01/the-hub-tv-network-generates-truly-outrageous-record-ratings-with-holiday-weekend-sneak-peek-preview-of-summer-programming-154210/20110601hub02/
6/2/2011 9:48 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
So far, I've gotta say that I have a pretty strong affection for "Father's Day."

SparkleRC, while I don't have to personally watch every episode, someone certainly does for QC purposes.  Still, on my projects, I prefer to be as informed as humanly possible.  After all, I'm the one writing the copy you see on packaging and inside any booklet that may appear.  So I'd rather watch every episode of everything.  In some cases, this isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I look at it through the eyes of a collector, so I know SOMEONE out there wants it handled with the best possible care.  In other cases, as was the case with shows like Greek and The Middleman and now with Jem, watching each episode is making me a legit fan, so treating them kindly isn't a difficult task.

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6/2/2011 1:22 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, did you get the commercials I sent?  There was one for Jem and one for MASK.

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6/2/2011 2:34 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Looking now, but can't seem to find anything.  Can you resend?

Thanks!

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6/2/2011 3:07 PM
totally5664
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

"Father's Day" was a good episode and Roger Slifer, the writer of that episode, provided commentary for it on the Rhino DVD. It was cool listening to him talk about his analysis of the characters that Christy Marx created for Jem and how he used that to write that episode.

Brian,  can we expect episode commentary from the writers of Jem for the upcoming release?

6/3/2011 6:19 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/2/2011 9:48:39 AM

In some cases, this isn't necessarily my cup of tea, but I look at it through the eyes of a collector, so I know SOMEONE out there wants it handled with the best possible care.  In other cases, as was the case with shows like Greek and The Middleman and now with Jem, watching each episode is making me a legit fan, so treating them kindly isn't a difficult task.

Brian

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6/4/2011 10:55 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Even though I'd prefer the "Extended Version" (5 episode version) of the Truly Outrageous origin pilot be used for any Shout Factory  JEM Complete Series Box Set or individual Season sets, putting the original 90 minute movie version out as a solo release would be nice to have too. After seeing the movie version again on The Hub, I realized that the story moved alot quicker and the amimation was more consistant and realistic. Those original 5 to 10 minute mini episodes with their own little cliff-hanger along with awesome music videos all edited together is what drew me in way back in the 80's. So I won't hate if the 90 minute movie version get's a separate dvd release. A cd soundtrack with songs from Seasons One and Two would be great as well. See my song preferences on my previous posts.

6/5/2011 1:38 PM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Why not songs from Season 3, Hondo? Just because you don't like those as much? ;-)

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6/7/2011 1:00 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian - just re-sent.  Check your mail!  :)

- Sean

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6/7/2011 6:11 PM
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!

I guess their marketing strategy worked out. There's a JEM Billboard in LA!! Check it out

http://postimage.org/image/1cljcl1hg/

6/9/2011 7:55 AM
B Ward
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
I have one usable commercial. Anyone have any other high-resolution commercials from back in the day?

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6/9/2011 8:17 AM
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
OMG! That billboard is sooo cool. It's 1986 all over again!
6/9/2011 11:24 PM
CD77
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
Brian, any hope we can have these DVDs Region Free?

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6/10/2011 1:53 PM
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
VHS quality good enough? SP speed/Stereo? Any speaks your looking for? I transferred the SP/Stereo VHS to sometype of Sony HD a few years ago, and should be able to transfer it to my computer.

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6/10/2011 2:02 PM
B Ward
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
That'll work just fine!

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6/10/2011 7:01 PM
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!

Hello everyone! I am a nanny for three girls and I was showing the youngest who is eight some of the 80's cartoons on you tube the other day. She was interested in knowing what I watched as a kid. I came apon JEM and about flipped! I was obsessed with it as a kid and it took me back to my youth seeing it again. We ended up watching an episode or two as well. Since then I wanted to see if it had been released on dvd. Through my internet search I discovered that it was released before by..is it Rhino? but it wasn't very good. I then heard about Shout but didn't see anything on the site. Now that I scrolled through this message board here I found out alot! I see that alot of you here are dedicated JEM fans which is AMAZING and you have done alot to make yourselves heard that you want JEM released on dvd. I also saw that Brain from Shout as been hard at work to make this happen for all fans of this show, and that it's still a work in progress, so I want to give a HUGE THANK YOU to the fans who have made their voices heard, and to Brian, Shout Factory and Hasbro for making this happen. I understand this is gonna be awsome, so I have every intention on holding out for this dvd set here at Shout! Thanks everyone!!

 

Bridget

6/10/2011 8:21 PM
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RE: Outrageous News JEM Fans: The Hub's JEM MARATHON broke ratings records!
Hey Brian,

I have one that I  loaded up to Retrojunk.com a few years ago.Unfortunately they watermark anything they are sent. I'll see if I still have the original file on disc. You can check it out here: http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/6215/
6/11/2011 11:53 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

To: CD77

I like the songs from Seasons 1 & 2 more because they sound more like real 80's MTV pop/rock that I love (Scandal, Eurythmics, Kajagoogoo, Duran Duran, Pat Benatar). Songs from Season 3, much like the stories and amimation changed. Jem/Holograms' songs relied heavily on ballad-y themes (Flowers In Her Hair, Dear Diary, KJEM etc) which I didn't care for. Aztec Enchantment is okay. Even the Misfits (who had catchier songs) had bad Season 3 songs: I Like Your Style, Let's Blow This Town. It's only because the extra umph/attitude the Misfit put in their songs that they fare better than Jem's. As a fan, I would still purchase a Jem Soundtrack with Season 3 songs included as long as songs from Seasons 1 and 2 were well represented.  

6/11/2011 4:54 PM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Again, it's your opinion. To me, "I Like Your Style" and "Let's Blow This Town" are better than many previous Misfits songs. Not to mention the fabulous Stingers Sound. We can argue about that for years but it's pointless: nobody's right or wrong. So we should simply hope that Shout makes us all happy with a complete release. Partial requests according to personal tastes are quite useless, at this point. Just my 2 cents.

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6/11/2011 6:52 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
the Misfits "Listen Up" has to be one of the best Misfits songs ever, from KJEM (3rd season). I really like "Don't Look Now" from Trick or Techrat -- "Abracadabra" from Music is Magic. Holograms/Misfits "Bad Influence" is pretty cool, and Kimber/Stormer "I'm Okay." Jem's "Beat This" is pretty rocking and I love everything Stingers. But over all I do think I like more songs from the 1st/2nd season -- up to Glitter and Gold.

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6/13/2011 1:10 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hey Brian,

Just a total shot in the dark--is there any possibility Shout! Factory is considering a blu-ray release for the series?

While I doubt the 1" broadcast master tapes you referred to earlier have too much inherent resolution, the material would certainly benefit from the greater capacity and therefore reduced compression offered by blu-ray. I've seen other video sourced from relatively limited source materials that has turned out much better than you'd conventionally expect, offering a much nicer viewing experience. There's truly nothing like high def...

To other Jem fans on this board--am I the only one who finds the songs in the first five episodes (through "Battle of the Bands") of a higher caliber than the songs thereafter? They seem more fully-realized somehow, and they aren't quite as same-y as some of the songs got later on. In a perfect world, and of course this is just an opinion, I'd love to see these particular songs released as their own soundtrack album, as I feel that they're a brilliant microcosm of the show's top-notch pop sensibilities.

[Edit--clearly there has been some discussion back and forth about songs from each season right above my post. Oh well, just consider my opinion tossed into the ring as well!]
6/18/2011 6:37 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Brian please, put this on the DVD if it's not too late.

http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-jem-and-the-holograms-5290701

In all seriousness though, any chance of that review being added to the Jem DVD box set. I guarentee you, you'll get high sales for including an internet celebrity's review. It worked for James Rolfe for the His Name Was Jason DVD with his review of the Friday the 13th video game and all. So, all you need is Lindsay Ellis's permission. Though, would Hasbro be okay? There's no profanity or anything.



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6/18/2011 11:59 PM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
First of all... Who the hell is this Lindsay Ellis?
Second of all... Are you serious?

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6/19/2011 10:46 AM
Movie-Brat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Lindsay plays the Nostalgia Chick. And okay, I get overly excited when I posted and maybe it'd get on or not but still, it'd make a fun bonus feature for the DVD. Like I said, she's an internet celebrity. She works for Channel Awesome, it's a real company mind you. Ask Mike Michaud.

Hell, they got a whole article dedicated to them on The New York Times.



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6/19/2011 2:25 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

This show brings back so many memories, when i was little i'd watch Jem after He-man on USA,  of course i wouldnt tell any of my friends, it was to girly for a boy to watch lol. Im sure they probably were watching it also!!   I'm 33 now, been watching it on the Hub, really enjoying it! So i popped online to see if it happened to be on dvd since i recently purchased the Gi Joe and Transformer sets you released.  My heart dropped to the floor when i saw the rhino sets and the price they sell for, wow...    So i was a bit sad, but luckily i found this forum and Shout is rocking it once again!!!    So is a Jem release 100% certain in the future? So we should definitely not drop $100-$200 for the old Jem sets?

6/21/2011 2:34 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
this would be a cool look -- they say they are Hasbro licensed http://www.welovefine.com/product.php?id_product=296

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6/21/2011 5:28 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

I would not drop the $100-$200 for the old Rhino issued Jem sets, especially since they failed to release the final episodes on DVD before they lost the rights.

----- Original Post -----
by GhostlyGuy at 6/19/2011 2:25:09 PM

 So is a Jem release 100% certain in the future? So we should definitely not drop $100-$200 for the old Jem sets?

6/23/2011 2:09 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm...not...sure I...get it.  If we're going for tongue 'n' cheek, it's lost on me.

Brian


----- Original Post -----
by Movie-Brat at 6/18/2011 6:37:01 PM

Brian please, put this on the DVD if it's not too late.

http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-jem-and-the-holograms-5290701

In all seriousness though, any chance of that review being added to the Jem DVD box set. I guarentee you, you'll get high sales for including an internet celebrity's review. It worked for James Rolfe for the His Name Was Jason DVD with his review of the Friday the 13th video game and all. So, all you need is Lindsay Ellis's permission. Though, would Hasbro be okay? There's no profanity or anything.



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6/24/2011 6:04 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I agree with Brian totally. It makes a lame joke of Jem being Hannah Montana when it was soooooo much more than that. I for one, when I get the dvd set (or sets) would never watch it. Why waste time with that when we could focus on the postive side of Jem & not so much of the negative which wasn't much at all (Besides the Misfits never really getting into trouble for all they did). I would rather see so much more than this on the bonus features, I would rather see the "Robot Chicken" parodies than that video... Just my two cents though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
6/24/2011 12:07 PM
Movie-Brat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Sorry. Yes, it's tongue-in-cheek at the same time though, it's an honest opinion on the show but it's really just satire. I'm pretty sure she respects the fanbase but people love internet celebrities pointing out flaws in nostalgia. In fact, why do you think people love The Nostalgia Critic?

Besides, is it really different from what the MST3k guys do with the movies they riff on? Especially Gamera?

I suggested it to be on the Jem DVD sets from Shout! Factory because I thought it'd help the sales a bit more. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time. James Rolfe's review of the Friday the 13th video game was included among the bonus features of the His Name Is Jason DVD. It was the documentary on the Friday the 13th movie franchise. You probably know him as The Angry Video Game Nerd.

Plus, with the Nostalgia Chick's review on the DVD sets, you would get her fanbase lined up to buy them.

So upon seeing Lindsay's Nostalgia Chick review on Jem, I got excited and thought it'd be perfect for the new Jem DVDs. Here's the website Brian, what do you think? If not, then that's alright.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/23/2011 2:09:25 PM

I'm...not...sure I...get it.  If we're going for tongue 'n' cheek, it's lost on me.

Brian


----- Original Post -----
by Movie-Brat at 6/18/2011 6:37:01 PM

Brian please, put this on the DVD if it's not too late.

http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-jem-and-the-holograms-5290701

In all seriousness though, any chance of that review being added to the Jem DVD box set. I guarentee you, you'll get high sales for including an internet celebrity's review. It worked for James Rolfe for the His Name Was Jason DVD with his review of the Friday the 13th video game and all. So, all you need is Lindsay Ellis's permission. Though, would Hasbro be okay? There's no profanity or anything.



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6/24/2011 8:35 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
For the love of god, do not include nostalgia chick, im sure Zerenyzerak video would be far better

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/23/2011 2:09:25 PM

I'm...not...sure I...get it.  If we're going for tongue 'n' cheek, it's lost on me.

Brian


----- Original Post -----
by Movie-Brat at 6/18/2011 6:37:01 PM

Brian please, put this on the DVD if it's not too late.

http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-jem-and-the-holograms-5290701

In all seriousness though, any chance of that review being added to the Jem DVD box set. I guarentee you, you'll get high sales for including an internet celebrity's review. It worked for James Rolfe for the His Name Was Jason DVD with his review of the Friday the 13th video game and all. So, all you need is Lindsay Ellis's permission. Though, would Hasbro be okay? There's no profanity or anything.



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6/24/2011 11:19 PM
Movie-Brat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
 Look if you don't like the video because it's not funny or anything, fine. But if you hate it and don't want to see it on the DVD solely based on the fact that she has a dislike of Jem, then no offense but that's not a credible reason. But really, just repeat yourself the MST3k mantra concerning both the NChick and Jem,

"It's just a show, I should really just relax."

And for the record, Jem was one of the more huge demand from the fans to be reviewed but the problem was, she never grew up with it and was really relunctant to watch it but she caved in. That and her reviewing style is different from The Nostalgia Critic and The Angry Video Game Nerd. She's more blunt and puts in more satirical elements.

And just in case, forgive if I sound harsh overall, it's just that I have a major distrust of people with nostalgia goggles due to bad experience. Myself and meeting others who apparently hate anyone with the opposite opinion and the sad truth that not everything from your childhood holds up.



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6/29/2011 8:40 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I can't think of a more valid reason to not put it on the DVD than that.  Why on earth put something from someone who dislikes the series on the DVD release of the series?


----- Original Post -----
by Movie-Brat at 6/24/2011 11:19:59 PM

 But if you hate it and don't want to see it on the DVD solely based on the fact that she has a dislike of Jem, then no offense but that's not a credible reason.
6/30/2011 9:35 AM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I can't believe we're still talking about it.

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6/30/2011 10:17 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
This conversation is moot.  All bonus materials must be approved by Hasbro and after having worked with them for the last couple years, I can tell you--without a shadow of doubt--that they will not approve a video of someone "satirizing" and, ultimately, bashing their television series, whether it holds up to the nostalgia goggles or not.  This video does not appear to be in fun, but more as a way to perpetuate her own reputation as a sardonic "critic."  Furthermore, new media isn't there, yet, in terms of using someone's name as a selling point.  There are billions of websites and anyone with a camera, an internet connection and an inflated sense of self can become a "web celeb" to a small community.  I don't think she's nearly popular enough to use as a brand to sell a DVD set; especially one that she ultimately doesn't like.  So, I think I'll pass.

Thanks.

Brian

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7/2/2011 2:34 PM
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RE: News from The Shout Factory FACEBOOK Page!
The Shout JEM Facebook Page has some BIG news about the NEW JEM DVD sets. Here is the link to the Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/JemHolograms From poster: Kevin Andersson "Can we BEG Shout! Factory to included as many CDs as needed to included ALL songs from the show? I really want ALL the songs in lossless CD format! Does anyone know if they are planning to do such a thing?" SHOUT FACTORY'S RESPONSE: Jem and the Holograms Our production team is working on getting the best extras that are possible within the deal we have for the set. I can't release details yet, but there will be plenty of extras included in the full set. A "full" set? Does this mean what I think it means?
7/7/2011 2:52 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Hello Brian!

I am so excited about seeing Jem re-released on dvd, just curious, will the set be out this year? And will it be the complete series or a Season at a time?

 

THANK you sooo Much! You are so kind!

7/8/2011 3:48 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

My guess is that Jem will be released in November with a complete series set and hopefully will include the songs from the show in a bonus cd to entice buyers.  I also see Shout releasing   4 individual sets with a certain amount of episodes included in each set with the first being released about the same time as the complete set with the other 3 volumes of the set coming out next year about 2 months apart similar to what they did with GI Joe and Transformers and what appears they are doing with MASK.

7/11/2011 2:22 PM
Movie-Brat
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Oh well, thanks anyway. It was fun trying to suggest it though but still, I'd like to recommend The Nostalgia Critic to you Mr. Ward. You'll find everything here.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com

I recommend starting with the Batman & Robin review, then onto Captain Planet and the Top 11 Nostalgic Drug PSAs. Don't worry, despite the material; it's really all in good and trust me when I say that the character does have a huge fanbase. As evidenced in this forum (who very much love what you've done Brian).

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/forums/index.php

And that's all I have to say. Thank you again.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 6/30/2011 10:17:32 AM

This conversation is moot.  All bonus materials must be approved by Hasbro and after having worked with them for the last couple years, I can tell you--without a shadow of doubt--that they will not approve a video of someone "satirizing" and, ultimately, bashing their television series, whether it holds up to the nostalgia goggles or not.  This video does not appear to be in fun, but more as a way to perpetuate her own reputation as a sardonic "critic."  Furthermore, new media isn't there, yet, in terms of using someone's name as a selling point.  There are billions of websites and anyone with a camera, an internet connection and an inflated sense of self can become a "web celeb" to a small community.  I don't think she's nearly popular enough to use as a brand to sell a DVD set; especially one that she ultimately doesn't like.  So, I think I'll pass.

Thanks.

Brian

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7/12/2011 12:15 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, If you were able to get the 35mm film source you could do a HD scan of it for a really high quality dvd and even later a blu-ray (1080p). I am curious about the broadcast tapes, are they 23.97fps or 29.97fps? What is the quality of the video and audio and how does age affect these tapes? Thanks
7/12/2011 3:54 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I can't wait to get the complete series, I really like the art you did for the packaging. October 11 can't come soon enough
7/12/2011 6:25 PM
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'll be getting the first season set! The packaging is nice - it's great that there's some good differentiation from the old Rhino sets. Yep count me in on an October 11th purchase!
7/12/2011 6:55 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 7/12/2011 12:15:56 PM

Brian, If you were able to get the 35mm film source you could do a HD scan of it for a really high quality dvd and even later a blu-ray (1080p). I am curious about the broadcast tapes, are they 23.97fps or 29.97fps? What is the quality of the video and audio and how does age affect these tapes? Thanks
Don't blu ray tease me haha shout could release it on prob 6 blu ray discs and I would double dip again for sure. I would bet the chances of ever getting a blu set are slim but if 35mm prints were scanned it would be something else and a uncompressed audio track :-)
7/12/2011 7:03 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jem is finally releasing October 11th,2011 I CAN"T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Jem-The-Complete-Series/15643

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
7/12/2011 9:02 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Complete series, instant purchase, Oct 11th. Now, here's hoping for 1. all the songs on CD/mp3 and 2. Fan art gallery/contest
7/13/2011 4:34 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I keep wondering about "the Beginning", from what I have been told that wasn't exactly the Super Sunday version that Hub aired -- but it was not the extended episode with Leatherettes and Space Cadets in contest.

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7/13/2011 8:15 AM
Sheri330
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hi, Riot4Jem. "The Beginning" WASN'T The Super Saturday/Sunday version? I know it wasn't the Truly Outrageous version and it wasn't the extended version was there another version? I'm confused.
7/13/2011 8:16 AM
Sheri330
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
OMG! I saw the cover art for BOTH DVD's yesterday. WOW! They are GORGEOUS! I can't wait until October 11!
7/13/2011 8:54 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by Sheri330 at 7/13/2011 8:15:07 AM

Hi, Riot4Jem. "The Beginning" WASN'T The Super Saturday/Sunday version? I know it wasn't the Truly Outrageous version and it wasn't the extended version was there another version? I'm confused.
I'm confused too -- was not the extended version. But there was some fixes/changes (in this Hub version) from the Super Sunday/Truly Outrageous version. One fix was the Starlight Drive in, It was "Star Drive-in" the first time it appeared. But from what I understand it was originally Star Drive-in later in the episode, but the hub version has it switched to Starlight Drive-in.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
7/13/2011 11:31 AM
SparkleRC
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Can I ask a stupid question? What was the point in signing up for news about JEM on dvd when we got the news elsewhere and not from Shout. I thought we would get some special e-mail updates or something. Or even maybe an exclusive bonus for ordering from Shout direct.

I may end up passing on this. I have the first 2 sets and the remaining episodes from air. I was expecting better bonuses. Not worth it for me to re-collect Seasons 1, 2 and half of 3.

7/13/2011 2:20 PM
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SparkleRC, to be fair, we weren't aware the news was being put up, yet.  The information was obtained from internet e-tailers who require information early and then dutifully reported by TVShowsOnDVD.com.  But we didn't give them the scoop.  Furthermore, that article doesn't list all of the bonus material.

I think fans will be very pleased. 

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7/13/2011 4:31 PM
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The fact the show is being released in it's entirety makes me happy. For me extras/bonus material has always been just that an extra, their fun and great to have but the thing I want most is the show and thanks to Shout I will now have that and by the sounds of it some great extras to. 
7/13/2011 7:57 PM
JATH80
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I am glad that Jem is being released. FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait.

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
7/13/2011 10:05 PM
Edwardsinclair85
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Truly Outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sooooo excited they are finally releasing Jem completely! I am tempted to hold off on watching the last few episodes so they will be fresh to me when I see them! I have seen them in almost a decade since I still had them all on vhs recoreded of USA cartoon express! Everyone should be happy and not act ungreatful! And the price is awesome! I paid $60 or plus for the 1st And 2nd in 2004 and that was only for 26 episodes, then when all my dvds were stolen a few years ago, I paid $100 U.S. a piece for both sets. To have 65 episodes for $89 is amazing!!!!

Everyone be happy, I remember people selling the bootlegged episodes on message boards in the late 90s for $65!

 

THIS IS TRULY OUTRAGEOUS AND BEAUTIFULLY BOLD!

7/14/2011 6:09 AM
SparkleRC
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I'll wait and see what the bonus features are before making my decision to buy. Otherwise, maybe I'll wait until Season 3 comes out separately. Thanks Brian.
7/14/2011 1:20 PM
fudgeland
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Nice to see the complete series in one-shot...I will definitely be buying that.  Bonus features are nice too, but my main concern is the packaging... I hope that SF doesn't treat this as *just* as a kid's show with frilly packaging that damages the discs (like the Rhino one did!).

Consider this my vote for standard slim-line double-Amrays, like the Garry Shandling box.  I imagine the complete series will have to be compressed for size with 11 discs in it, please no cardboard slipcases!
7/15/2011 4:49 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
pretty sure there's zero chance of blu-ray dvds for Jem, GI Joe, or Transformers (aside from the movies) because of the issues with the re-takes and color. These shows were done in the 80s. We're talking tape-to-tape editing, 1" analog video can't be up-converted to HD. Rhino failed at remastering, I can't imagine any other company would sink money into remastering especially Jem for the limited blu-ray market. Not when it's so much easier just to use the existing masters. Not sure how much better audio and video we'd get, when the sources are this old. Standard def DVD is probably the best the fans can expect.
7/15/2011 4:41 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
That list of Bonus Features look amazing. Brian, I really appreciate that you worked so hard on a series that wasn't necessarily your cup of tea.
7/16/2011 10:58 AM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I got the Shout email yesterday with the Jem Complete Series pic and info. Though I love the artwork on the French Jem dvd sets as well as the doll box art, I think the Shout box set cover art is AWESOME! Going with the very first ever image of JEM coming up with the microphone is very iconic. It's maybe one of the few images that could represent the series as a whole as opposed to pics that fans associate with a individual video/song or individual episode. And as previously posted, it looks different from both Rhino sets (which recycled that same Jem pic - an idea I hated). I can't wait to purchase the Complete Series.

The Jem pilot story which aired on The Hub seemed to be a "mash-up" of both the edited version (Super Sunday version) AND the extended 5-episode version. It incorporated elements of both into a compressed four episode version. Time may have been a factor in this new "Hub" version. Jem debuted on the channel in a marathon which consisted of  five episodes and maybe The Hub wanted to end with a cliffhanger (like the series sometimes does) to keep the viewers watching. That could be why the last episode shown was not "Battle of the Bands" but "Starbright Part One". Just my two cents.

7/16/2011 4:28 PM
Quentin
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Looking forward to Oct 11 for the JEM complete set. Good price on it too.
7/18/2011 8:23 AM
Brandy80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm so excited and glad it will be a step up from the Rhino release I've had since it came out. Not to mention all the episodes will be complete. There had been so much talk about it being updated and turned into a live movie or tv show etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah... Jem is something I'd like to leave alone and enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed as a cartoon from the 80's, in the time we'd had it, just like the Dukes of Hazard, The A-team and everything else that shouldn't be redone by watered down content, bad character development and of originality to keep up with the modern pop culture joneses. It's just my opinion but I'd stop at the cartoon and remember it like it was in the time that I had it--awesome! I still have anxiety over the butchered Disney sequels such as Little Mermaid, Cinderella, even Toy Story 3--you get my point. Thank You Shout for preserving my Childhood.
7/18/2011 3:23 PM
Loveland
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
WOW!  Thank you so much Brian for all the hard work.

When will the full list of extras be announced?  I was the FB user who asked the question in regards to Jem's music on Jem's FB Wall (somebody pasted it from FB in this thread).

Brian, is there any chance that all music from the show will be released?  I understand that fitting everything into CDs might be too much, but the alternative would be to include the files on a DVD.  One thing though, I'm an audiophile enthusiast and I only buy LOSSLESS files (i.e. WAV, FLAC, ALAC music files formats).  I detest LOSSY files (MP3, AAC, WMA, etc.).    Please please please make sure that whatever format the music is released is LOSSLESS.

Now for something fun, take a look at this!  This is HILARIOUS and for the most part, spot ON!  That being said, whoever plays Raya and Jetta must be Latina and British, respectively.  Also Christian is way too old to play Rio.

http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/jem-and-the-holograms-live

7/18/2011 5:09 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Unfortunately, we'd done some digging and the original audio masters for the individual songs has long since gone missing.  Doesn't mean we can't one day find something, but I don't think you want the songs pulled from the episode masters and then converted to .wav.

Killer, I know.

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7/18/2011 6:36 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, I can rip the audio from my VHS recordings of the show I took from an over the air broadcast then convert it to real audio. Maybe this can be included in the set?
7/19/2011 8:46 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
That kind of sucks. I was most looking forward to obtaining the music from the series. I might have to think twice before purchasing now.
7/19/2011 11:06 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm still hoping for the backing tracks (i.e. karaoke versions of the songs) That could have been easily done using the Music&Effects track - The one Rhino put on the R and L channels of the 5.1 audio.

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7/19/2011 1:24 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, The recordings for the songs were done in a NYC studio, is it possible that studio has the masters?
7/19/2011 2:35 PM
riot4jem
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Last I heard the master may be at Sony in Tennessee.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
7/19/2011 4:25 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I was thinking that the studio might keep their own set of masters, whenever I do A/V stuff I always archive a set.
7/20/2011 9:05 PM
adamwade
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
The studio they were recorded at has long since closed.

I've spoken to numerous people involved with the music, and it doesn't appear anyone has copies, much less complete ones.  In fact, many of the people who worked on the music on the show don't have copies at all, unless homemade ones given to them by fans.

I spoke with Anne last fall about this, and she thinks she may have a couple of tracks somewhere in storage with paperwork, etc., but definately does not have a full set of masters or anything close to it.

The only hope was that Hasbro somehow ended up with a set, but I'm sure Brian has gone down that road as he is working with them on the release.  So if Hasbro doesn't have them, unless someone really has a set stashed in a basement somewhere, they simply may not exist any more.  And, in fact, they may have never existed together in totality anyway - it's doubtful there ever was a "master" set to begin with. As they were done they were shipped off once post was completed on them, it doesn't seem like anyone on either side was doing any sort of archiving.

I haven't talked to a single person who can say they saw them past the time they were originally recorded and sent off to be included with the show.  They very well may have been reused later for the blank tape (much stranger, sadder things have happened).


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 7/19/2011 1:24:04 PM

Brian, The recordings for the songs were done in a NYC studio, is it possible that studio has the masters?
7/20/2011 9:29 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
If we get some weapons, ski masks , and black pants we can go to Hasbro's main office and i'm sure we'll leave with all the masters.
7/23/2011 11:34 AM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Is there any way to improve or remaster the music from the doll cassettes? They have a bit of hiss because of the lack of Dolby, but they could be a good source for the music pending an upgrade. And in most cases, the songs on the doll cassettes are extended a bit, which adds to the authencity. Each cassette that came with one of three Jem board games each had a third of season's one's songs, but the quality was slightly less than the ones that came with the dolls. The Jem songs which appear on the Dream Tour cassette are probably the best quality available because of the Dolby used.

Can't wait until October.

Brian: Will the Season One set only consist of the five-episode "Extended Version" of  Truly Outrageous or will it appear in smaller fragments (ala Super Sunday)? Or does it have both versions? Because the first season is so short.  

7/23/2011 12:48 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
The masters which I believe are Type-c one inch would have better audio quality on them than cassette. Brian has a copy of these but said he didn't want to take the audio from it for a CD. When CDs first came out there were a bunch of low budget tape to CD transfers and they sounded really bad.
7/24/2011 10:23 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I couldn't be happier about Jem (the entire series) finally coming to DVD!!! I have been a huge fan since age 4 and have been promoting the new DVDs on my weekly Jem radio show as well as sharing breaking news with other fans. Oct 11th can't come fast enough :-) I was really hoping for Jem CDs since the music is such a central part of the show and karaoke songs would be bonus fun for fans. Of course I understand if quality tracks can't be found....still I'd take a so-so recording over nothing. I must say I am impressed at the extras so far and it means so much to those of us who adore this show that such care is being put into it! So THANK YOU Brian and others at Shout! :-) I talked to many fans and took an online poll as far as extras we most want, then emailed Shout weeks ago with that wish list of bonus features but never heard back from anyone. I was delighted that a couple of things we Jem fans voted on having will be included!

~Amy~  (co-host of KJEM Radio) 

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=93860&cmd=tc

 

7/25/2011 12:43 PM
Sheri330
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I have a question. Will TRULY OUTRAGEOUS [The VHS  90 Minute MOVIE version of The JEM  pilot episodes] be on the DVD's at all? If not is there a chance it will get a separate release like it did in Europe?

"Is it October 11th yet?"
7/26/2011 5:52 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
This would make a great dvd cover, it really represents Jem. http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5210/41271884.jpg
7/26/2011 11:14 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I dunno... I kinda like our cover.  :)  http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257482

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7/26/2011 12:10 PM
totally5664
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Behold! The true Jem DVD cover. http://amegoddess.deviantart.com/art/Brutally-Outrageous-99604210?offset=10
7/26/2011 4:27 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
B ward your cover is awesome too, when are we going to see a complete list of all extras?
7/27/2011 7:23 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArB_O8S2AXQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=27s Fantastic fan made music video
8/3/2011 3:23 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I think I have to throw my opinion in for a few of the topics in this discussion. 1. The title sequences, the first title sequence which I believe was used during the first season is fantastic. The quality of the rotoscope'd animation is wonderful and the song really captures the show perfectly. The second opening sets up the show to be a giant girls doll commercial and I wish didn't exist. For a DVD release my dream would be to just have the first opening used on all the episodes, unfortunately this would not be correct so the best thing would be using the 1st opening where appropriate, the fact that rhino changed the order is disturbing. 2. I'm sure the extras will be everything that Brian can get his hands on and will be wonderful, the sad truth is i'm sure when making these shows the designers didn't consider long term preservation of material for future fans. 3. The cover art of the full set is amazing and perfect 4. The super Sunday editions are a must, any extension to episodes is always welcomed. I also love the commercial bumpers in the show and have no problem keeping them in In a final note I notice that Brian often gets flamed for shows in which later seasons aren't released due to sales or missing material due to complex licensing. Even if that is the case he is preserving a fantastic show on a digital media for a long time to come and even without the sales making fans happy. I'm sure that the DVDs will sell well anyhow and everyone can be happy.
8/6/2011 9:29 AM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I too was put off by the sequence of the Jem opening themes on the Rhino set, but now, like the set as a whole have come to appreciate it. Sure the artwork/packaging didn't thrill me, but the content of the discs made up for it. Yeah, they stopped before releasing Season Three, Part 2, but it's kinda how Shout is releasing MASK Complete Series without Season Two. 

Braxton, interesting enough, the Hub Network has only shown the original Jem opening theme with each episode, including later seasons. They probably understood (or read our posts) about the second theme's less inclusiveness to all of the show's viewers. So kudos to the Hub.

I'm STILL waiting to get the answer from Brian about which episodes (or version/s) of the Season One episodes appear on the first volume of JEM. Initially I wasn't crazy about having the 90min. "movie" version on dvd, but now think it would be great to have on the Season One set, as a option view. It would also fluff out the dvd because Season One is only just five episodes. So it'd actually be worth buying (in addition to the Complete Series) to have both versions on one dvd - and for the first time ever.

8/6/2011 12:08 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
According to wikipedia and several episode listing sites the first season is 26 episodes. The hub website has a few episodes and some of them feature the 2nd opening I've never seen the show on TV however. I wonder what Brian thought of "out of the past".
8/7/2011 9:31 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
As someone who actually watched it when it was originally on - the first REGULAR season of Jem was 26 episodes.  Prior to that, all that existed was the original Super Sunday mini-series, which make up the first 5 episodes of the first regular season.  On Super Sunday, it was shown in 15 chapters with each episode split into 3 parts.  It was the same with Inhumanoids.  So technically Season 1 only gave us 21 new episodes, with the other 5 being a re-edited version of the original mini-series.  I've always considered the mini-series to be Season 1, and the first regular season to be Season 2 and on.

As for the alternate opening theme, I'm happy to say I only ever saw the show aired with the original version.  I hadn't even heard of the "Jem Girls" version (outside of the song being used in the toy commercials) until that god-awful "Girl with the Glasses" video.  I thought the song was horribly out of place with the visuals, as if a fan had just haphazardly slapped in the music from one of the toy commercials...  I thought it was just awful, and really took away form the impact of the opening.  I would be delighted to see this opening solely as an EXTRA, and the regular theme used for the episodes.  That's my three cents.


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8/7/2011 10:47 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
There were really no seasons for the show, when shows are labeled by season it's usually based on the normal season gaps (sept~ - may~) and studios order by season (for example family guy renewed for 2 more seasons).Those two pieces of information provide a delimiter for each season. Jem was a single order of 65 episodes, the breaks into season 2 and 3 are done solely based on the introduction of the new band members (season 2) and the stingers (season 3) after the fact by fans on various sites. A proper DVD would label them with episode numbers in either the original airing order or the production code (either is acceptable since there are no continuity issues with Jem).
8/8/2011 3:24 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I guess I forgot about the episode "the day the music died" they do a 4th wall break during the 2nd opening, this would be impossible if the original opening is used for all episodes.
8/8/2011 9:28 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Well, that would be an obvious exception.  How many episodes used the 2nd opening, anyway?  I only ever saw the show with the original opening, even in repeats years later.

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8/10/2011 4:31 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
According to rockjem(Very authoritative) episode 1 - 26 should feature the original theme song and 27-65 should feature the new theme song. If you go by the semi-arbitrary season breaks season 1 uses the old theme song and season 2,3 use the new one. I hope this is what Brian has on the Hasbro masters.
8/10/2011 5:59 PM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Watching them on the Hub the Jem Theme was on the episodes before the Fan 5205-36 -- so that was the sixth episode aired in the 1987-1988 season. Except for Danse Time the following 10 episodes have the Jem Girl theme. So I would say the Raya/Jetta episode did not start with the Jem Girl theme, but it was added very shortly after Jem went to 5 days a week in Sept of 1987 -- looks like it was added the 3rd week of Jem airing M-F. So around 32 episodes for the original theme, and 33 for the Jem Girl theme.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
8/10/2011 6:06 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
If we can trust their sources.
8/11/2011 5:53 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I feel bad for Brian , he's getting railed on by fans of other series in the forum recently. I guess we are really lucky to get a Jem complete series with extras I hope it sells well enough that Shout Factory continues to make more series available.
8/13/2011 2:17 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Riot4Jem ,is airing order of episodes on Wikipedia accurate?
8/14/2011 1:46 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Ugh....fully HALF the series used that theme?  Brian, please give us the option to have the other intro on those episodes....PLEASE....

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8/14/2011 4:41 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/13/2011 2:17:09 PM

Riot4Jem ,is airing order of episodes on Wikipedia accurate?
There are few odd things going on with the order on Wikipedia, so I would say no. check out the air dates here JEM Sunbow Air Dates or the production order JEM Sunbow Episodes

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8/14/2011 11:55 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Looks like Wikipedia is showing the right episode order now ;) , Do you think that Brian will use production order or airing order?
8/16/2011 6:54 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, Any updates or news you can give us regarding the release?
8/20/2011 12:09 PM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I think maybe Shout could be dividing up the 65 episodes in the series (evenly as possible) and calling them different seasons for the individual releases. That's totally fine by me, since season one is only five episodes. It just sucks that I have to look elsewhere for answers to my questions about the set.  
8/20/2011 12:14 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Shout is using the more up to date breaks for the seasons which can be found at wikipedia, tv.com, epguides.com, tvrage.com. Season 1 is 26 episodes and the shout dvd appears to have that (600 mins / 23~ = 26 episodes).
8/21/2011 8:14 PM
rogue73
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Thanks Brian

Hey Brian,

      Thank you so much for all the hard work you've done. You really put 100% of yourself into the project. Not to mention putting up with all of our quibbles. LOVE the cover artwork with Jem from the opening intro. Very impressed with what Shout has done so far. So again, thank you for all the work you do.

8/23/2011 4:16 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Braxton, I believe you are correct. That would be the order we're going with, in regard to breaks in the seasons.

Rogue73, thanks for the compliments. Working with you guys has been a dream.

Speaking of dreams, I've seen that the first 10 sample copies of the complete series have come in.  Those are the ones handed out to the various VPs.  Compliments all around.  I think you guys are gonna dig it.  Can't wait to have my copy sometime next week.

Brian

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8/23/2011 5:55 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I thought you abandoned us for Twitter, I think everyone should get a Jem wrist watch with every DVD set purchase (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnCDeKcj2xU)
8/23/2011 9:05 PM
TrulyOutrageous86
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thanks for all you have done again, Brian. Any idea when we (the fans) will find out what the complete bonus features are? Or will it only be posted the day of "Complete Series" & "Season One" release??? Yes, I am very antsy to find out....

"That's what makes you, a superstar!"
8/24/2011 9:51 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Nah, haven't left, though, I will admit that Twitter is far more appealing.  I seem to get a lot less personal attacks there.  ;)

As for bonus features, let's see...

Three featurettes:

1.) Showtime, Synergy! The Truly Outrageous Creation of an '80s Icon
This is a featurette, well over a half hour, focusing on the creation of the show. For this particular featurette, we talked with Christy Marx, naturally, Roger Slifer, Joe Bacal, Tom Griffin, Will Meugniot, Barry Harman and Britta Phillips.
2.) Glamour & Glitter: The Voice Cast Looks Back
This featurette focuses solely on voicing the show.  Christy talks about the casting and we also spoke with Samantha Newark, Patricia Albrecht and Michael Sheehan.
3.) Jem Girls (and Boys!) Remember
This featurette focuses on the fans of Jem and the Holograms.  Several of you are in it, along with a few web-celeb fans like Clare Grant and Milynn Sarley from "Team Unicorn," entertainment reporter Jenna Busch and DVD Geeks co-host Mary Czerwinski.  Some may also know Clare as Seth Green's wife.

Animated Storyboards
Five sets of animated storyboards, including two versions of the opening titles and three music videos.  These storyboards were generously donated by artists Will Meugniot and Keith Tucker.

Original Commercials
There are several original commercials included here.

Video Jukebox Feature
This is a standard select your favorite music video function.  They are additional encodes and not mere authoring tricks, simply taking you to those chapters, so you shouldn't experience any delays as the player is trying to find the appropriate chapters.  Each disc has this function.  Note: This is the ONLY bonus feature available outside of the complete series set.  The other bonus features are exclusive to that 11th bonus disc.

DVD-Rom
There are a few DVD-Rom goodies available, all printable, including the complete Writers Bible donated by Christy Marx.  The others will have to remain a secret for those wanting to have a little something to be excited about.

I don't THINK I've left anything out.  Not positive, as I'm working from memory.  Those featurette titles may even be a little off.  But I think that's pretty much everything.

Hope that helps!

Brian

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8/24/2011 1:13 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, I'm sorry you had to hide from the forums on Twitter, I'm sure the Jem topic was not the cause of your problems. I wanted to add to what others have said already by thanking you for releasing Jem, your box art is perfect and the fact that is a complete set with a bonus disc really just covers everything. I left a great review for the series at Amazon (under Mitigating) and I see that set has been slowly gaining popularity based on the "Like" votes. I'm sure you'll sell many copies and be able to fund the releases of other wonderful series that otherwise wouldn't have seen the light of day.
8/24/2011 1:31 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
No, no.  The Jem fans were the least of my troubles.  Thanks for the support, gang!

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8/25/2011 11:20 AM
totally5664
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
That list is really impressive Brian.

For anyone having trouble placing those names here is a Who's Who list pulled from totallyjem.jemmagic.com

1.) Showtime, Synergy! The Truly Outrageous Creation of an '80s Icon
Christy Marx - Development/Story Editor/Head Writer - http://www.christymarx.com/
Roger Slifer - Co-Producer/Story Editor
Joe Bacal - Creative Director/Executive Producer
Tom Griffin - Executive Producer
Will Meugniot - Storyboard Director - http://www.storyboardpro.com/Jem/jem_landing.html
Barry Harman - Lyrics
Britta Phillips - singing voice of "Jem"

2.) Glamour & Glitter: The Voice Cast Looks Back
Samantha Newark - "Jem"/"Jerrica"
Patricia Albrecht - "Pizzazz"
Michael Sheehan - "Rio"

3.) Jem Girls (and Boys!) Remember
Team Unicorn - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Unicorn
Jenna Busch - http://girlmeetslightsaber.blogspot.com/
DVD Geeks co-host Mary Czerwinski - http://dvdgeeks.tv - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9CrGXHpaQ

(thanks for the corrections Brian)
8/25/2011 1:04 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Couple corrections to your list.  Joe Bacal is also an executive producer with Tom Griffin.  Britta Phillips is the singing voice of "Jem."

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8/25/2011 1:12 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, Do you know if the first five episodes contain the fixed sequences and extended songs, also known as the "retake" versions?
8/25/2011 1:29 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
The masters we used were the original broadcast masters.  So you should be seeing whatever originally aired, as opposed to what Rhino released.

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8/25/2011 1:33 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian , can you take some pictures of the packaging and DVDs?
8/26/2011 1:20 AM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by Hondo at 7/23/2011 11:34:12 AM

Is there any way to improve or remaster the music from the doll cassettes? They have a bit of hiss because of the lack of Dolby, but they could be a good source for the music pending an upgrade. And in most cases, the songs on the doll cassettes are extended a bit, which adds to the authencity. Each cassette that came with one of three Jem board games each had a third of season's one's songs, but the quality was slightly less than the ones that came with the dolls. The Jem songs which appear on the Dream Tour cassette are probably the best quality available because of the Dolby used.

Back around 1998-1999 I was making too much money for a 20-something working in the tech industry (before the bubble popped) and I decided I needed to own every Jem cassette ever released. So I hit eBay and sniped every auction in sight that had a tape with high bids. So I have a box full of Jem cassettes, including duplicates (or triplicates, etc) of many. I think I managed to find every cassette that I knew the existence of. I even bought MIB dolls just to open the box and get the cassette. (I didn't keep the dolls, I was just after the cassettes. I gave the dolls away.) If there *was* any interest in using the cassettes as a source for music in the set - if not a CD then perhaps MP3/AAC files on the DVD-ROM content - I'd be more than happy to ship what I have to Shout! Factory.
8/26/2011 9:32 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I uploaded a pic of the slipcase on my Twitter account.  So far, only 10 copies of the set have come into the office and no one will let me open theirs.  Arrgh!  But you can see the slipcase here...

https://twitter.com/#!/BWard028/media/slideshow?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitpic.com%2F68krfd

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8/26/2011 10:10 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I'm the told the clips we pulled may have come from old screeners we were originally given of the Rhino masters.  The masters we used for the DVD are the original broadcast masters.  I'll look into this.

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8/26/2011 10:47 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I like that it's sparkly.  :)

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8/26/2011 10:50 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
The extended sequences are easy to check, the music videos are about 20-30 seconds longer for example here is the video for To close for comfort extended .
This is from the episode 4 "Frame Up"
If you can see if this is the same length then it's most likely that all the first five episodes are the retake versions, which is good :D.
8/26/2011 11:28 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Braxton, please clarify... Are the extended sequences how the show originally aired?

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8/26/2011 11:33 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Originally aired is a complicated subject, there we the "Super Sunday" segments, then a later airing which was different. Rock Jem has more information on the 4 different versions but I just noticed this on amazon they added a video which appears to be from version 3. Here is a screenshot from Rockjem and the amazon video at a certain frame that shows it is version 3. I don't know where Amazon got their clip from unless you sent them an advance copy.

Retake comparsion
8/26/2011 11:39 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Wow.  They sure didn't make it easy for me, did they?  I don't know what to say.  If I screwed up, I apologize.  Still looking into it.

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8/26/2011 11:59 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
In my opinion the best version is the fourth one but I only care about the extended songs, the additional scenes are minor, and as for the fixes they didn't really get everything and Jem is full of animation errors all the way to the last episode. Rhino released version 4 but if you happen to have something earlier what can you do.


The clip from amazon is not from the Rhino DVD , they used version 4.
8/26/2011 12:55 PM
totally5664
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
remember, linking your source is always appreciated
http://www.rockjem.com/retakes.html

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/26/2011 11:33:02 AM

Originally aired is a complicated subject, there we the "Super Sunday" segments, then a later airing which was different. Rock Jem has more information on the 4 different versions but I just noticed this on amazon they added a video which appears to be from version 3. Here is a screenshot from Rockjem and the amazon video at a certain frame that shows it is version 3. I don't know where Amazon got their clip from unless you sent them an advance copy.

Retake comparsion

Also, I did some research and found some movie/series song comparisons. (Looks like we didn't lose out on anything.)
http://youtu.be/PG8eZKLSnss
http://youtu.be/aWjyvkH1Ek0
http://youtu.be/wocUC723Bc4
http://youtu.be/1g3Fm7T0Tn4
http://youtu.be/YNmakdGfsU4
http://youtu.be/A0bZTk3Uy0o
8/26/2011 1:52 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I don't think we are losing that much either, I am just curious about the specifics of the release as it helps me pass the time waiting for oct 11th. I'm sorry about not using the exact page as a reference , however I did mention "Rock Jem" twice in my posting in regards to where I got the picture and information from.
8/26/2011 4:08 PM
Kingsaiyan
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
You saw my video comparisons :) - I never finished them, so check between lupini3rd's videos (for the movie versions) and chibiranzie (for the rhino versions) P.S- can't wait for the set to come out :)
8/26/2011 4:23 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I think chibiranzi runs his audio through sand before uploading it.
8/26/2011 4:56 PM
totally5664
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thanks for making those video comparisons. I never got saw the whole Jem movie so I find video clips like yours fascinating.

I have an odd fondness for the ending credits of the movie. http://youtu.be/yjD0XugYsj4

----- Original Post -----
by Kingsaiyan at 8/26/2011 4:08:18 PM

You saw my video comparisons :) - I never finished them, so check between lupini3rd's videos (for the movie versions) and chibiranzie (for the rhino versions) P.S- can't wait for the set to come out :)
8/26/2011 5:22 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hi Brain, Why wasn't Cindy McGee the voice of Shana and Susan Blu voice of Stormer apart of the DVD featurettes????

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
8/26/2011 5:27 PM
Kingsaiyan
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
LOL, I should have prob used better sources, but as long as we get to see the major differences between the two I think it's fine haha
8/26/2011 5:29 PM
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----- Original Post -----
by totally5664 at 8/26/2011 4:56:02 PM

Thanks for making those video comparisons. I never got saw the whole Jem movie so I find video clips like yours fascinating.

I have an odd fondness for the ending credits of the movie. http://youtu.be/yjD0XugYsj4

----- Original Post -----
by Kingsaiyan at 8/26/2011 4:08:18 PM

You saw my video comparisons :) - I never finished them, so check between lupini3rd's videos (for the movie versions) and chibiranzie (for the rhino versions) P.S- can't wait for the set to come out :)
Lol, I have the same type of emotion but for the instrumental ending that used to be at the end of the broadway magic/ glitter n gold tape :)
8/26/2011 6:33 PM
mraw
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I really want the music. I'm more concerned about that than the episodes. I can watch all the episodes on tv right now, I can't listen to the music on my ipod, in my car or elsewhere.
8/26/2011 6:55 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Jath80, we reached out to most cast members through their agents and representatives, as we always do. Unfortunately, most didn't respond, while a couple others declined. Mind you, this doesn't mean the cast members declined. It means their agents did, which may very well mean that the offer never even made it out to their clients. Sadly, this kind of thing happens all the time. There were a couple other folks who were reached out to, via personal email accounts we were given. At least two couldn't make it on the day we shot folks in L.A.

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8/27/2011 3:50 AM
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8/27/2011 7:19 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/27/2011 3:50:01 AM

Once you have the DVDs you can extract the audio and with some post-processing it comes out nicely.

Here are two examples-

Jem - Nightmare (RM)
The Misfits - Top of the Charts (RM)
I really want to go through the process of extending the songs once I have more time.
Wow, those sound real good :)
8/27/2011 10:04 PM
mraw
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

That sounds good! But anything that's pulled directly from the show will have external sound effects depending on the context of the song. My favorites from the show are All's Right with the World, Can't Get My Love Together, It All Depends on the Mood I'm In, Friend or Stranger, and Time is Runnin' Out is my absolute favorite.

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/27/2011 3:50:01 AM

Once you have the DVDs you can extract the audio and with some post-processing it comes out nicely.

Here are two examples-

Jem - Nightmare (RM)
The Misfits - Top of the Charts (RM)
I really want to go through the process of extending the songs once I have more time.

8/28/2011 11:40 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Not a big fan of "All's right with the world" or " Friend or Stranger". Time is running out has an extended version done by a fan on the bootleg "Jem tribute album" he extended it somewhat and it's not bad quality. Both "it all depends on the mood i'm in" and "can't get my love together" have minimal sound effects added to them, I don't think I want to post anymore of my mp3s because Brian might send me my Jem dvdset with a DMCA notice inside it instead of dvds (I hope he never finds my youtube channel).
8/28/2011 1:53 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Braxton,

Do you have plans on doing every song and remastering all of Jem once the DVD set is released in that great quality you have already done?

I would be interested in a full run of music if you do..

Cry for Dawn
8/28/2011 3:31 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I like 34 Jem songs total, I've fixed 32 of them while I kept the extended version of "Time is Runnin Out" and am unable to get a quality source for "Designing Woman" (which happens to be my second favorite misfits song. I think I should wait to see what the audio quality on the Shout! DVD releases will be like, if it's like M.A.S.K then it will be ac-3 192kbit 2-channel which might be better then my original sources.
Jem Song List

I really wish I could just put a zip of all the files in FLAC or mp3(320kbit) but who knows how serious Hasbro is about getting people. Perhaps if you could find another way to contact me?
8/28/2011 6:11 PM
cry4dawn
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Braxton,

Email sent..

Would love to talk more about this..

Cry for Dawn
8/28/2011 7:21 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 8/26/2011 6:55:01 PM

Jath80, we reached out to most cast members through their agents and representatives, as we always do. Unfortunately, most didn't respond, while a couple others declined. Mind you, this doesn't mean the cast members declined. It means their agents did, which may very well mean that the offer never even made it out to their clients. Sadly, this kind of thing happens all the time. There were a couple other folks who were reached out to, via personal email accounts we were given. At least two couldn't make it on the day we shot folks in L.A.

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Thank for the reply Brian, I know Susan Blu is very busy. I was really hoping to see Cindy McGee because I believe she is the only original surviving (voice actress) Hologram. Wanted to hear her point of view.

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
8/29/2011 8:09 AM
braxton
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RE: Shout! Factory's DVD cover art
I must say the more I look at upcoming DVD set artwork the more impressed I am and glad how a single image can represent an entire show so well.
8/29/2011 8:59 AM
B Ward
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I do appreciate that, Braxton.  I steered it in that direction, but I also think it was a natural choice.  Our ace art director, Karrie Stouffer, grew up a Jem fan, as well, and when she saw the image I handed her, she knew that was a cover shot.  We had it redrawn and it originally had the hand going straight back.  Unfortunately, there were some folks at Hasbro that thought it looked too much like her hand was coming out of her head.  I get what they were seeing, but I think that arm/hand thrust straight back is much more dynamic.  That being said, I like that our cover isn't a straight redraw.  There's something about having it a little different that I like.  I guess it just shows to me that we didn't simply cut & paste.

Can't wait to get my copies.  But even more so, I can't wait for you guys to get yours!  Wanna hear your thoughts!

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8/29/2011 9:28 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thanks for posting pictures of the boxes, now I can stop thinking about the damn release.
8/30/2011 4:38 AM
mraw
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hey Braxton, is there another way to contact you?

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/28/2011 3:31:45 PM

I like 34 Jem songs total, I've fixed 32 of them while I kept the extended version of "Time is Runnin Out" and am unable to get a quality source for "Designing Woman" (which happens to be my second favorite misfits song. I think I should wait to see what the audio quality on the Shout! DVD releases will be like, if it's like M.A.S.K then it will be ac-3 192kbit 2-channel which might be better then my original sources.
Jem Song List

I really wish I could just put a zip of all the files in FLAC or mp3(320kbit) but who knows how serious Hasbro is about getting people. Perhaps if you could find another way to contact me?
8/30/2011 9:09 AM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Make an account on Wikipedia, I'm the current active editor for the Jem page and you can contact me through their account system. I can't post my real e-mail on this forum because TechRat will hack me.
8/30/2011 10:16 AM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
My Twitter followers will know that we received our copies of the complete series yesterday.  They start going out to the participants in the bonus features--including fan participants--today.  So, hopefully, a few of you will start receiving your sets within the next few days.  Can't wait to hear your thoughts!

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8/30/2011 11:45 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Any chance those advance set recipients include those of us who contributed goodies to the extras?  ;)

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8/30/2011 12:13 PM
B Ward
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Very possible.  Send me your address again, sir.

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8/30/2011 12:16 PM
Zaranyzerak
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Done and done!  Sent to your e-mail.

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8/30/2011 12:57 PM
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I am so jealous. ;)
8/30/2011 2:16 PM
mraw
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

I have no idea how to contact you after logging in to Wikipedia, but I understand your need to remain private.


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/30/2011 9:09:19 AM

Make an account on Wikipedia, I'm the current active editor for the Jem page and you can contact me through their account system. I can't post my real e-mail on this forum because TechRat will hack me.
8/30/2011 2:24 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Aww, I'm jealous too! How did you find fans to interview? Wish I could have been part of it. I have so much to say about Jem. She has been such a big part of my life! Now I even have a radio show devoted to all things Jem! (We have been talking about these awesome DVDs a lot on the air) But I think I mentioned that before, lol. We at KJEM would love to interview you, Brian, if possible. :-) Thanks again Shout and Brian Ward for all the work, we have waited so long for Jem to get a proper release! Oh and I love the DVD cover! Very fitting that it be pink and sparkly.

 

~Amy~

KJEM Radio:  http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=93860&cmd=tc

8/30/2011 2:31 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Jerrica17, drop our shoutpress@shoutfactory.com account a line.  Ask them about what we can do.  Happy to speak with you.

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8/30/2011 9:05 PM
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Hey Brian, Any chance those advance set recipients could include Huge fans of the show? :-)

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
8/31/2011 12:35 PM
braxton
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Send an email with your contact info to jemtastic@mailinator.com and I'll contact you with my real e-mail.
8/31/2011 8:26 PM
Jerrica17
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thank you, Brian! Working it out now. We look forward to talking with you :-)
9/1/2011 6:14 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
For those who receive the DVD sets early, assuming you are not forbidden to review or discuss, I would love to know what version the first five episodes are.
9/1/2011 9:07 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 8/31/2011 12:35:23 PM

Send an email with your contact info to jemtastic@mailinator.com and I'll contact you with my real e-mail.
@Braxton were you asking me to send you my email address?

Katy Perry as Jem...You got my vote!
9/2/2011 4:00 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
No, another guy wanted something. I can't get you an advance copy :D
9/3/2011 10:29 AM
mraw
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Thanks a lot for the music, Braxton!

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 9/2/2011 4:00:11 AM

No, another guy wanted something. I can't get you an advance copy :D
9/3/2011 11:12 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I think I finally understand the Rhino DVD audio a little better, their 2.0 and 5.1 ac-3 tracks were not really "remastered" properly. Maybe they didn't want to mess with the rest of the show, who knows what action scenes would sound like with heavy bass. Here is "Love is Doing it To Me" I fixed after my new revelation about frequency compression for broadcast TV.

Love is doin it to me MP3 Remastered

I think if Shout! Factory did most songs near this I would buy that on CD or Brian, you could send me the masters :D
9/4/2011 5:43 AM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
And please, Brian, remember that the Music/Effects track you surely own, could be used to obtain decent karaoke instrumentals of the songs.

www.jemeleholograms.it
9/4/2011 6:44 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
The instrumental version of each song seems to be channels 1.1, 1.2, and 1.4 on the 5.1 track, however there are sound effects mixed in.

Instrumental of Love is doin' it to me
9/5/2011 2:28 PM
CD77
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 9/1/2011 6:14:29 AM

For those who receive the DVD sets early, assuming you are not forbidden to review or discuss, I would love to know what version the first five episodes are.
According to the clip posted on FB "Jerrica meets Synergy", it's the Super Sunday version.

www.jemeleholograms.it
9/6/2011 8:31 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Another treat for everyone, probably one of my top 10 Jem songs.

Jem - Too Close

Britta Phillips voice is just amazing , imagine if she released an album in the 80's.
9/8/2011 3:02 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Brian, is there anyway to get in touch with you via e-mail if I promise it's not to complain, harass, or other malicious actions?
9/8/2011 3:43 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Best way would be to send to info@shoutfactory.com with my name in the subject line.  The folks who monitor that email will forward it along.

Brian

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9/9/2011 2:02 AM
StarTrooper
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Hasbro recently announced that they are attending NYCC (New York Comic Con) and in their press released they specificaly mentioned JEM and the Holograms. Real good chance they could be revealing a new JEM toyline.

PAWTUCKET, R.I. - SEPTEMBER 8, 2011 - For the first time at New York Comic
Con, Hasbro, Inc. (NASDAQ: HAS) will attend the convention at the Javits
Convention Center in New York City from October 13-16 to present many of its
iconic brands and meet with fans. Hasbro will have a significant booth presence
featuring current and upcoming products from its TRANSFORMERS, G.I. JOE,
JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS and KRE-O
brands and
BEYBLADE, MARVEL and STAR WARS lines. Additionally, Hasbro will host
panels for several of its properties and action figure lines as well as offer
for sale several HasbroToyShop.com special edition products made for New York
Comic Con convention goers
.

9/9/2011 8:56 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Scary in a way, Jem is a pop culture show that is knee deep in the 80's. If they ever decided to have new show it would probably have different music, different voices, different animation, and based on newer cartoons (Kim Possible) have less realistic story lines. If they bring back the dolls or play sets and rerun the original Jem series during a serious time slot that's fine with me.
9/9/2011 10:13 PM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
A new animated show would work if they (Hasbro) would use the same production company that the new Thundercats show is using (Studio 4C). Base the series in todays time and have both groups (the Holograms & the Misfits) try and bring the 80's style back with your fashions, music etc....

Katy Perry as Jem Emma Stone as Kimber Fergie as Pizzazz for the Jem and the Holograms movie...You got my vote!
9/10/2011 5:57 AM
riot4jem
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I LOVE the new Thundercats. Once I got past my confusion about it being a prequel and the new look, the stores are really well written. I think one episode "Song of the Petalars" should be nominated for some type of award. For me the animation, backgrounds, etc., rivals Disney Theatrical animation.

----- Original Post -----
by JATH80 at 9/9/2011 10:13:29 PM

A new animated show would work if they (Hasbro) would use the same production company that the new Thundercats show is using (Studio 4C). Base the series in todays time and have both groups (the Holograms & the Misfits) try and bring the 80's style back with your fashions, music etc....


totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/10/2011 10:09 AM
Hondo
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

To JATH80:

As a fan, I'm really critical of remakes of my favorite 80's cartoons. I hate what has been done with Transformers and G.I.Joe. So I would not be happy with anyone messing with JEM. I'll admit the new Thundercats has been surprisingly entertaining. The changes to the original characters (Lion-O and Tygra being brothers, the cats not starting off a full team at the beginning etc.) aren't so upsetting to make me hate the show. Turning Jem into a silly amime styled (or worse) with an imcompetent soundtrack would ruin the Jem legacy for me.

My dream cast for a live action Jem : Truly Outrageous origin movie (had one been made in the 80's) would be ...Molly Ringwald(circa the '80's) as Jerrica. Perfect look and personality, wearing that pink and blue, riding in that glass elavator, confronting Eric and the Misfits for the first time. Lauralee Bell (circa the '80's) as JEM. Eric Stoltz would be Rio. Sequels would star Sarah Dalin of Bananarama (circa the 80's) as JEM. Check her out in "Venus" and their other music video. She's the blonde with the longer hair and would be a perfect Jem. Peter Barton would play Rio.

9/10/2011 12:23 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I think the new Thundercats is the exception, what we all probably want is just more Jem the way it was and that will never happen. It's sad but at least we got 65 episodes and a full DVD release.

JATH80, here is your new logo please fix :D
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3305/jempsudohd3.jpg
9/12/2011 8:16 AM
JATH80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
@ Hondo Nice dream cast. I too am very critical of my favorite cartoon shows being rebooted. Since there is a Jem Movie in the works my dream cast would be: Katy Perry as Jem/Jerrica Benton, Emma Stone as Kimber, Fergie (Stacy Ferguson of Black Eyed Peas) as Pizzaz, Jamie Chung as Aja, and Annie Ilonzeh as Shana.

Katy Perry as Jem Emma Stone as Kimber Fergie as Pizzazz for the Jem and the Holograms movie...You got my vote!
9/12/2011 9:32 AM
Brandy80
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Sorry, I want my Jem to stay in cartoon land with my 80's angle. Katy Perry as Jem doesn't work for me. Nothing against Katy but she's not Jem, IMO. : ) I have nightmares about a Jem reboot and bubble gum animation, please leave Jem alone. Somehow high ratings are a catalyst for these companies butchering great shows. Rarely do I see it work out.
9/12/2011 1:18 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
I just want the bloody DVD, I wish I didn't know about it's release until a month prior.
9/13/2011 4:01 AM
CD77
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Member since: 3/20/2009
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"


----- Original Post -----
by Brandy80 at 9/12/2011 9:32:55 AM

Sorry, I want my Jem to stay in cartoon land with my 80's angle. Katy Perry as Jem doesn't work for me. Nothing against Katy but she's not Jem, IMO. : ) I have nightmares about a Jem reboot and bubble gum animation, please leave Jem alone. Somehow high ratings are a catalyst for these companies butchering great shows. Rarely do I see it work out.


2002 Masters Of The Universe were great! I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

www.jemeleholograms.it
9/15/2011 2:33 PM
B Ward
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Okay, I know a FEW of you already have yours.  I find it hard to believe you've not come in here to write about it and give your thoughts.  For a gang so vocal prior to its being picked up, going so far as to infiltrate other threads, you guys sure are quiet now!

Thoughts?

Brian

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9/15/2011 3:34 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
Everyone's in stunned silence at the sheer awesome.  ;)

Well, I just got mine yesterday, haven't had a chance to watch much yet.  BUT!  I did post an epic package opening video about it, along with providing a close-up look at the packaging for everyone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn_mOJiCiiU

This seemed like a properly special event to have as the subject for my first proper 1080p Multimedia Chronicles episode!  ;)

I did dive into the extras disc last night, and watched, well, EVERYTHING on it!  Terrific selection of featurettes on there, it was a joy hearing from so many people involved in the making of the show.  I always get a chuckle out of tales of working with Wally Burr in the voice recording sessions.

Glad I didn't wind up being the only one to provide commercials!  Quite a well-rounded collection of the original toy ads on there, and I was delighted to see....NO BLURRED FACES!  Hooray!  I know that was a big pet peeve with the Transformers and G.I. Joe sets.

In short, the bonus disc was a treasure trove of goodies for any Jem fan!  My little one is with me for the weekend, so methinks I'll be introducing her to the Glittery One whilst I check out the episodes.

There shall be more vids giving my thoughts on the rest of the set once I've had a chance to work my way through it.  in the mean time, enjoy the package opening/close-up look at the set!

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
9/15/2011 6:07 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"
After watching Zaranyzerak's unboxing I have to say that Brian just destroyed Rhino. The fact that the DVDs look like records with the color matching each season and the quality of the artwork is just fantastic. I'm going to put my Rhino set in the Walmart dollar bin now.
9/15/2011 8:42 PM
shevonabmx
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RE: "WILL JEM BE REMASTERED IF SHOUT PUTS IT ON DVD???"

Hi Brian,

There has been a bunch of discussion about the DVD's over on the JemCon board. The overall outcome was that a majority of the members have asked those of us who were fortunate enough to have received an advanced copy of the DVD's not to share too much information and spoil it for those who won't get there sets until October on the JemCon board. Therefore out of respect for our members, I have been making sure that not too many spoilers get released on the board. So that might be a reason why some people from the JemCon realm haven't said too much.

I love the set; obviously the packaging is a huge hit! You can never go wrong with glitter and pink when it comes to Jem. The use of the records as the disc covers is super clever and overall the artwork is true to the series. I did think the layout of the seasons was a little different, not necessarily bad just different then what most of us are accustomed to.

The bonus disc is amazing; I have never seen such a fabulous display of cast/crew interviews, bonus content and fan input. It isn't just a few hours a lame commentary about an episode or two, it is actually interesting and so worth watching!

Thanks again for all of your hard work on the set; I know all of us over at JemCon can't thank you enough for including us. We owe ya!

9/15/2011 9:02 PM
Jerrica17
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re: Jem DVDs

Brian,

It is true those of us that have the set early are trying to be respectful of those that won't get it until Oct. It's hard to really review it without giving too much away, but we will do a full review on KJEM Radio (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=93860&cmd=tc) once the set officially comes out. I do have to say I LOVE IT (Fans, you won't be disappointed) The box is sturdy and gorgeous. Good choice with the sparkle! The artwork is very nice and I can tell care went into making it. I question the order of episodes in season 3, but I could be mistaken. From what I have watched so far the menu's are perfect and the extras - outrageous! I could sit and watch detailed interviews, documentaries, etc about Jem all day! I'm also SO happy that the colors are correct in the show (no mustard yellow hair for Pizzazz). Thanks Brian, for all your work. I'll treasure this set!

 

~Amy~

9/16/2011 12:36 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Britrock fell down to season 3, it doesn't matter that much except when I have to fend off Wikipedia users who can't read that it says "original airing dates" instead of "order based on whatever the latest dvd/airing is"
9/16/2011 7:02 AM
trioxin
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Help please what is the sound on this edition will be Dolby DIGITAL 5.1, or what?
9/16/2011 9:33 AM
B Ward
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Regarding the episode order, we went with a document/list that was provided by Hasbro/Sunbow from back in the day, rather than Wikipedia, TV.com, etc.  One thing that should be kept in mind is that this series was syndicated.  Not every market aired the same episode on the same date.  With that in mind, we went with the document we had in front of us, rather than the resources online.

If this is inconvenient or hinders your experience, I sincerely apologize for the judgment call.

Brian

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9/16/2011 11:07 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Dolby Digital 2.0, 48khz, 224kbps.  As with the Transformers and G.I. Joe sets there is a subtle stereo ambience to the audio, but otherwise it is the original mono audio with no additional sounds added.

----- Original Post -----
by trioxin at 9/16/2011 7:02:30 AM

Help please what is the sound on this edition will be Dolby DIGITAL 5.1, or what?


The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
9/16/2011 11:25 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Can you post that document somewhere Brian?
9/16/2011 3:42 PM
riot4jem
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Member since: 3/18/2009
RE: re: Jem DVDs
I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch the episodes yet -- I did check out The Beginning to see it's not the extended version of that episode. Which I was hoping for. It's what aired on the hub -- so it's nice to have. But I miss the Leatherettes and Space Cadets and all pieces that were added.

All the featurettes are awesome -- and we finally found out how the name Jem came about, who came up with Jem and why. I wish there was more special features -- or at least more special feature that where not something I submitted. But that's just me. If I would have know about the fan videos I would have added something, not sure how or were I missed that.

The episode order is a little odd, because Roxy Rumble is pushed back two episodes and Stinger episodes are a little crazy including Britrock being mixed in with the Stingers, and Video Wars as the second to last episode. So the order does not line up with the air dates or the production order -- we had two orders, and now we have three. It's funny that the DVDs have this 3rd order, but Hub used the airdates. I can't really complain, because it is all the episodes :)

I feel sorry for Raya and Jetta because they are graphically left out -- as in not illustrated. I feel like the covers are backward for Season One and Season Two, because Rock'n Curl only showed up in the last episodes for Season One and the Season Two cover dates back to the Super Sunday segments. I'm guessing that's so the Season One DVD is not pink, since more boys remember that season. I like that the Misfits are shown in their Super Sunday fashions and of course love the Stingers. I like that between the two cover the three groups are represented and around the same size. I love, love, love that the DVDs look like records and that they match the color of the covers. And the glitter box is amazing.

I don't think it's correct to consider the Stingers a third season, but that doesn't really bother me. So it you where hoping to just get "Season 3 part 2" to finish where Rhino left off, it looks like your out of luck. You'll have to get Season Two and Season Three -- so might as well get the Complete collection and have Season One and the extra too.

All I can really say, like I did just say a lot, but anyway. To Shout! Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/16/2011 5:52 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Brian - For the all effort you put into your website and how it changed your life you deserve a copy of the masters. Jerrica17 - I had to remove your comment from the episode guide on Wikipedia because it's not appropriate to add discussion remarks in articles, the order is based on the original airing order and it can't be changed every time a new channel runs it or a DVD is released.
9/16/2011 9:38 PM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
So Brian, can you tell us any more about this Hasbro/Sunbow document that has the order. Does it list when the episodes first aired? It seems weird to me that it doesn't follow the production order 5205-01, etc., or the air dates Sunbow registered with the US copyright office. And you don't have to worry about it hindering my experience, a new and exotic episode order adds to my experience -- more questions to have to figure out. The only odd thing is it puts brunette Cindy Tucker "A Change of Heart" before she's introduced as a blonde in "Britrock". But it does fix Kimber talking about Regine's new designs in "The Day The Music Died" before Regine was introduced in "Straight From the Heart."

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/16/2011 11:35 PM
trioxin
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Thank you very much.
9/17/2011 6:44 AM
riot4jem
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Member since: 3/18/2009
RE: re: Jem DVDs
I just want to clarify that "Date of Publication" seems to be conflicts with the list that Sunbow had. So it's not when the episodes were registered with the copyright office, but the specific date that Sunbow gave for legal purposes.

I'm a production order kind of guy, so both the air dates and this list are completely wrong to me -- lol But even the production order would not be correct because it would put Raya and Jetta into two episodes before they are introduced/join the groups.

So I would love to know what this order list is, and why it does not seem to match up with what seems to be the dates Sunbow registered as the original air dates with the copyright office. Brian, what are your thoughts, would you say this list/order is more valid then what Sunbow gave to the copyright office, would the copyrights be a more valid this list?

This list/order seems cool, because if nothing else it seems to be the order Sunbow thought the episodes should be shown in, even if it does not match the production order, the date of publication, and/or the order we are used to see the episodes.

Does this list have the theme weeks? With air date vs. production order we always think of it as how long the episodes took to produce, but following the Hubs airing and comparing it to the original dates of publication, it seems like the episode order may have been changed to accommodate those themes.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/17/2011 9:25 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
I happen to be a original airing order guy, with the exception of a few screw ups which ruin continuity (babylon 5) the original airing order is a consistent source for the future. Production numbers are sometimes way off for seasons, if you look at south park they might have seasons composed of half of production numbers from a previous season since when it was produced might have nothing to do when it should air. If you have multiple studios or you are waiting for approval for a song etc you are going to run into this situation.

Brian is one tough cookie to interact with hardcore fans, people who have been likely rummaging through the library of congress for scraps of Jem information like Indiana Jones. Brian I salute you for having two jobs, producer and fan-control.

Riot4Jem - I was wondering if episodes 2-5 are the extended versions (retake 2, rhino, whatever) or the original like episode 1.
9/17/2011 10:13 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
It appears that the first 5 episodes are the Super Sunday versions, or at the very least they're a different version than what was used on the Truly Outrageous VHS release from fhe many moons ago (the version I'm most familiar with as I owned it).  Might be a mix of the various versions...there's at least a few Super Sunday chapters in there for sure.  Sounds like Rhino used a different version as well, so I'm inclined to say hang on to both if you want at least two of the versions.  Even though Rhino apparently used the wrong opening theme music...

Speaking of which, HEY BRIAN!  What are the chances of seeing a single disc release of the extended versions of the 5 parter?  I'm positive I've never even seen that one, and it would make a great bonus!  I'd think it would be a pretty easy sell.  "Jem - the original pilot mini-series, DELUXE EXTENDED VERSION!"  I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

Anyhoo, here's the episode order from the set for those still wondering:

Disc 1:
01. The Beginning
02. Disaster (aka Setbacks)
03. Kimber's Rebellion
04. Frame Up
05. Battle of the Bands
06. Starbright - Part 1: Falling Star
07. Starbright - Part 2: Colliding Stars

Disc 2:
08. Starbright - Part 3: Rising Star
09. The World Hunger Shindig
10. Adventure in China
11. Last Resorts
12. In Stitches
13. The Music Awards - Part 1

Disc 3:
14. The Music Awards - Part 2
15. The Rock Fashion Book
16. Broadway Magic
17. In Search of the Stolen Album
18. Hot Time in Hawaii
19. The Princess and the Singer
20. Island of Deception

Disc 4:
21. Old Meets New
22. Intrigue at the Indy 500
23. The Jem Jam - Part 1
24. The Jem Jam - Part 2
25. Culture Clash
26. Glitter and Gold

Disc 5:
27. The Talent Search - Part 1
28. The Talent Search - Part 2
29. Scandal
30. One Jem Too Many
31. The Bands Break Up
32. The Fan
33. Father's Day

Disc 6:
34. The Treasure Hunt
35. Aztec Enchantment
36. Music is Magic
37. The Jazz Player
38. Danse Time
39. Alone Again

Disc 7:
40. Roxy Rumbles
41. KJEM
42. Trick or Techrat
43. The Presidential Dilemma
44. Rock 'N' Roll Express
45. Mardi Gras
46. The Middle of Nowhere

Disc 8:
47. Renaissance Woman
48. Journey to Shangri-La
49. Journey Through Time
50. Out of the Past
51. Hollywood Jem - Part 1: For Your Consideration
52. Hollywood Jem - Part 2: And The Winner Is...

Disc 9:
53. The Stingers Hit Town - Part 1
54. The Stingers Hit Town - Part 2
55. Beauty and the Rock Promoter
56. Homeland, Heartland
57. Midsummer Night's Madness
58. Riot's Hope
59. Straight From the Heart

Disc 10:
60. The Old Houdini Magic
61. A Change of Heart
62. Britrock
63. The Day the Music Died
64. Video Wars
65. A Father Should Be...

And there you have it!  No idea what order this is, I'm sorry to say I'm not intimately familiar with much of the latter part of the series.  But I know YOU guys are, so debate away!  :)

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
9/17/2011 12:03 PM
riot4jem
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Member since: 3/18/2009
RE: re: Jem DVDs
"The Beginning" is the Super Sunday/Super Saturday version with a very extended sneak peek of "Disaster", not the extended version (added scenes episode we are used to seeing as part of Jem -- used to seeing until Hub aired this version)

"Disaster" is the extended version with the instrument of "We Can Make A Difference" playing in the yacht scene -- from 5205-04 - World Hunger Shindig.

I'll have to check on the other three, but I'm pretty sure they are three extended versions.

People are commenting on the fact that Starbright is broken up onto two discs, so the jukebox feature is broken up too. But I don't see that as a big deal, and that's what Rhino did. What's funny is the Jem theme is replaced with the theme instrumental on Starbright 1 and Starbright 3 -- not sure if that is an error or Easter egg.

Oh and it looks like the DVDs give us the 5th bumper at the conclusion of the episodes, but wasn't there a 6th. I thought I remember the "now back to Jem" going straight into the credits.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/17/2011 12:27 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
So episode two and most likely three to five are the extended versions that are on the Rhino DVD with the extended songs?

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9/17/2011 5:00 PM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Yes, Disaster, Kimber's Rebellion, Frame Up and Battle of the Bands are the extended version. I don't want to say they are the exact same version as the Rhino DVDs, just because I'm comparing them side by side.

From what I can tell the episodes seem to be the exact same versions The Hub has aired. I'm guessing that The Beginning did not get extended in time to air, so they aired this Super Sunday version.

Unless Hasbro is willing to put Super Sunday on DVD, it seems like we are really in need of Truly Outrageous the Movie to get the unexpended version of the 4 episodes, with a bonus of the extended version of at least the Beginning. Somehow we really need both versions of all five episodes, since it was the way Christy originally wrote them for Super Sunday, and what Christy was asked to add to make them fit the new time constants for Jem.

Read more @: Shout! Factory Community - The Official JEM Thread

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 9/17/2011 12:27:03 PM

So episode two and most likely three to five are the extended versions that are on the Rhino DVD with the extended songs?

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totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/17/2011 6:08 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Hm, Rhino DVD with "Jem Girl" (yuck) opening but with the extended episode one or Shout! factory with the original theme but without extended episode one. I'll take the latter in that situation only because of my extreme revulsion to "Jem Girl" and episodes two-five are extended. Brian gets a pass on this one but wait until I run his set through DGindex to check that it's progressive with proper pulldown flags......

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9/17/2011 7:47 PM
Sheri330
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Hi! I just went to The Rock JEM website and found something very interesting. The episode guide has the order of the JEM episodes the way THE HUB aired them however...

If you look at the air dates they MATCH the order in which Brian was talking about in his posts.

For Example:

Disc 9:
53. The Stingers Hit Town - Part 1 Original airdate: 2 February 1988.
54. The Stingers Hit Town - Part 2
Original airdate: 3 February 1988.
55. Beauty and the Rock Promoter
Original airdate: 4 February 1988.
56. Homeland, Heartland
Original airdate: 5 February 1988.
57. Midsummer Night's Madness
Original airdate: 8 February 1988.
58. Riot's Hope
Original airdate: 11 February 1988.
59. Straight From the Heart
Original airdate: 15 February 1988.

Disc 10:
60. The Old Houdini Magic
Original airdate: 17 February 1988.
61. A Change of Heart
Original airdate: 18 February 1988.
62. Britrock
Original airdate: 22 February 1988.
63. The Day the Music Died
Original airdate: 24 February 1988.
64. Video Wars
Original airdate: 26 February 1988.
65. A Father Should Be...
Original airdate: 2 May 1988.


Here is the Rock JEM episode guide link for the information:

http://rockjem.com/episodeguide.html
9/17/2011 8:15 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
I emailed RockJem a few weeks ago while I was fixing up a few database sites and this was his reply regarding this episode listing

"About my order of the episodes in my episode guide, it's based on the order the episodes once aired on some US channel, back in the 80's. Someone who recorded the episodes back then, told me the order. It's the order I've always gone by and that makes most sense to me."



The original airing order that is found on a few sites is based on Totallyjem's list which matches the U.S copyright office publication dates for each episode. TV.com also had this order as well, the source they used is unknown. I contacted the person responsible for the Jem page and they told me that when they took over about 3 years ago and it was already like that.

Based on this I modified IMDB, Wikipedia, and TVrage to match the airing dates (sneaking in my own subjective season divison) found on Brian's website. The truth is I trust Brian from Totallyjem over anyone, he puts serious effort into getting Jem information and if he is wrong it would be shocking. Before you go and waste your time (I can't believe i'm admitting this) I already checked the microfilm copies of the NY times from two dates in 1987 and the tv listing just says "JEM" with no episode title.

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9/18/2011 12:38 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
As the original broadcast masters from which these were sourced would be interlaced, what would be the point in forcing them to progressive for this release?  It's only beneficial to use progressive if the source is natively progressive (ie: film).  Otherwise you get undesirable "jaggies" from the forced conversion.

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9/18/2011 10:35 AM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
The original source is film, although it was transferred to tape for special effects and editing recovering the progressive stream is possible.

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9/18/2011 10:40 AM
CD77
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RE: re: Jem DVDs


----- Original Post -----
by riot4jem at 9/17/2011 5:00:09 PM

Unless Hasbro is willing to put Super Sunday on DVD, it seems like we are really in need of Truly Outrageous the Movie to get the unexpended version of the 4 episodes. Somehow we really need both versions of all five episodes, since it was the way Christy originally wrote them for Super Sunday, and what Christy was asked to add to make them fit the new time constants for Jem.



The Super Sunday version was released on DVD by MRA in Australia in 2005 and it's MUCH better than "Truly outrageous! - The movie" In Italy and France we had the same release too, but not in English language.

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9/18/2011 11:12 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
You can only "recover the progressive stream" if you have access to the original film.  Once it's interlaced, it's interlaced for good.  Any attempt to "recover" the progressive image form an interlaced source give you jaggies.  As I said, you can force it, but the results will be far less attractive than if you started with the original film to begin with.  As this was made from an interlaced source, it will be interlaced on the DVDs.  I've been watching on my CRT TV and it looks great.

Besides, any decent TV/DVD player should be able to bump it to progressive automatically, depending on your display settings.  Again, won't look as good as a natively progressive source, but at least it won't have combing.  Unless I missed something in the various JEM threads, the original film for these is long gone, as is the case for most shows from this era.  So all that exists in the broadcast masters, and those are interlaced.


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9/18/2011 1:30 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
I'm not a professional audio or video engineer and I did not want my use of the word recover to imply some sort of flawless conversion but if you examine the 23.97fps clip below (18 seconds) I think it is possible to pull out a progressive video and we get very smooth video as you can see when it pans from Aja to Jem.

http://38.125.95.15/pulldown/ivtc_24fps.mkv

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9/18/2011 1:39 PM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
It's interesting that with except for Jan 7 (Britrock - Copyright Office) and Feb 26 (Video Wars - on the rockjem.com list) all the dates match up with "A" copyright office publication date. Alone Again and Roxy Rumble are just switched.

I would like to say it sounds like Sunbow just put the episodes in production order with the coordinating air dates when they sent the information to the copyright office -- but that would only work for the Stinger episodes because the production order would be Video Wars, Homeland, Heartland, Beauty and the Rock Promoter, finally Britrock. So it seems odd that they would just make-up some order to submit.

It seems odd that a kid would think to date the episodes as they recorded them for rockjem's list -- it seems like there was no way the station would had the dates unless Jem was just before the news, and VCRs did not typically insert any information on the recording. So unless this person wrote down the dates the episodes aired, it does not seem possible to know which day of the week the episode aired, which week it aired, or a specific date.

Seems like there has to be something to it, if this rockjem.com list is the same as the internal Sunbow list used to for the order. Maybe rockjem's source got this Sunbow list and just said it was the order they recorded the episodes in. It seems like rockjem's list and this Sunbow list validate either other, but so when why would the copyright office have a different date. And why did the Hub air them in the copyright airdate order, when they had access to this same list?

All the episodes are on DVD and that is all that counts :) we can watch them in any order we want. :)

Now to the DVDs - Alone Again is kind of interesting, the color seems blown out on the theme, the episode doesn't look like it has the same problem -- so you fell like your on an acid trip before the drug episode even starts. (Don't personally know what an acid trip would look like.) The bumpers on That Old Houdini Magic, and I think Roxy Rumbles, and one or two other episodes are a little messed up, the sound has an echo. But again the episodes seem to be fine. It seems like the background music and songs on The Presidential Dilemma has the same thing going on, but not as bad as the bumper echoing, and the voice track seems to be fine.

I was comparing the bumpers, theme songs, etc., and the DVD's don't seem to be the exact same version that the Hub is showing. If you noticed on the Hub the bumpers color and brightness is off and/or not consistent between episodes -- they DVD are not consistent either, but don't necessarily match up with inconsistencies of the Hub versions.

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/19/2011 10:54 AM
B Ward
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Kind of overwhelmed with the number and sizes of posts here, since I was last online.  I'll try to do what I can to read through them all and post.  I can say that, in regard to the Hasbro document, I'm afraid I can't make it available, as there is a great deal of confidential legal information included.  I will also say that there are publication dates, but no specific air dates.  This is likely due to the fact that this document wasn't intended to be a record of that information.

I will also say that, as a writer myself, I can vouch that the date of publication has little-to-nothing to do with the original air date.  Publication is the copyright once the final draft of the script goes through the library of Congress.  The studio and/or broadcasters can change the air date anytime they want after this.  It simply means their teleplay is copyrighted.  For instance, while I was working on Melissa & Joey's second volume, they were still setting the broadcast order and it was in the middle of being broadcast.  So, no, the publication date really doesn't have anything to do with setting the order, though it would make sense that many series just go with the production order.  Due to this being animation and some things being more time-consuming than others, it may not be the case.

Not sure what to tell you beyond that.  I will say that these are the only masters Hasbro has been able to provide to us, so there really wouldn't be an alternate single-disc DVD of the mini-series.  At least, not at this time.  The masters for that alternate version don't appear to live at the vault where these were pulled.

Brian

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9/19/2011 7:22 PM
Brandy80
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Brian, I don't give a flying fig what the original air dates or production order has to do with it, I think you ROCK! I want to thank the Shout! Factory for all its hard work and the amazing DVD presentation you put so much work into. You gave me a piece of my childhood in a complete, totally awesome form that was well thought out and organized which I believed I'd never get back. You listened to what we 80's lovers of JEM to say and took it to heart. You are to me what Steve jobs is to apple tech-heads and from the bottom of my heart THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! I hope everyone enjoys their DVDs. ~Brandy
9/19/2011 9:37 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Brian, like the last poster I think you are fantastic. Your job must be so rewarding, giving fans what they want and interviewing creators and celebrities. You need to sometimes take us hardcore fans with a grain of salt because it's just interesting to nitpick. I have had serious thoughts of running out and getting involved in a project that has a more direct reward for others because of you. Right now i'm stuck as a programming/sys admin and reading your Twitter blog has caused me to become depressed

Thank you so much for Jem.

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9/19/2011 10:06 PM
Shipwreck
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
It sounds like a lot of effort was put into Jem unlike Conan which got a tenth of the effort.  There are a lot of real mistakes and no bonus material on Conan.  You can tell when a producer cares about a series and when they mail it in.
9/19/2011 10:26 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Ok I need one more post. First, Shipwreck is featured in a Jem music video (Show me the way) :D . Second, I think Brian does what he can based on potential sales, cost of the series, and what people can contribute. I don't think Brian ever "phones it in", granted I'm sure there is extra motivation if you really enjoy something but if you read Brian's Twitter page he seems to enjoy his job as a whole. We have to be careful to remember there are many other people involved and sometimes things are out of his control. I believe Brian does his best for every single Shout release.

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9/20/2011 10:44 AM
B Ward
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Eh, his frustration is certainly understandable.  But what people don't obviously think about is that not every project is budgeted the same.  I don't just not spend the money I'm given.  Conan didn't have as big a budget as Jem.  When I worked on DiC series, like Super Mario Bros. Super Show and Where On Earth is Carmen Sandiego?, I had virtually no budget, but could make up for it it with art galleries and animatics that I animated myself.  I spent days foraging through boxes in the DiC vaults for shows to which I had zero personal connection.  Sunbow no longer exists and Hasbro doesn't have that artwork.  A lot of the artists and private collectors do.  I can go looking and I did.  But no one had anything beyond a few hand-painted cels, which frankly don't make interesting bonus features alone.  So, it's not that I didn't care about Conan.  It's that I had a tighter budget for a less collectible series and no alternate assets with which I could work.

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9/21/2011 12:03 AM
damobb5
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Hey Brian and all Let me say first off thankyou so much for finally giving us a complete set of JEM I as well as many others do appreciate it! Now there has been a lot of discussion about the episode order / production order etc but I am almost tempted to say that your order list that you went by to compile the episodes is the correct one in terms of continuity. A big error that has always been around with all the existing episode lists has to do with "The Day The Music Died" and "Straight From The Heart". Current lists show that "TDTMD" comes before "SFTH", However the character of Regine who is introduced in "Straight From The Heart" was mentioned in "The Day The Music Died" and that has always bothered me and messed with continuity so I think that your new list is indeed correct.....Just my little input hahahah
9/21/2011 8:01 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Scene #36 Hasbro Headquaters
[Hasbro]: Ah Brian , how handsome you look tonight my friend.
[Brian Ward]: I didn't come to chat Hasbro, I came because I want the Jem master music tapes.
[Hasbro]: So where's the money?.
[Brian Ward]: I didn't bring any.
[Hasbro]:Well that must mean you agree to sign over controlling interest in Shout Factory to us.
[Brian Ward]: No, it doesn't. I came here hoping to find some shred of human decency and compassion left inside of you.Hasbro, please give me those tapes, they mean so much to the fans.
[Hasbro]: You didn't bring money and you aren't going to give me Shout Factory, is that correct?
[Brian Ward]: Yes.
[Hasbro]: And you want me to simply give you the tapes out of the goodness of my heart?
[Brian Ward]: yes?
[Hasbro]: I thought you had learned by now Brian, I Never Bluff. (throws tapes into fireplace)
[Brian Ward]: The tapes!
[Hasbro]: Try and release a soundtrack out of that.


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9/21/2011 9:09 PM
Brandy80
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Hahaha...I can just hear Hasbro with the Eric Raymond voice. But you forgot the smack to the face.
9/22/2011 3:51 AM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
"There might be a copy of the original tapes deep in Synergy's memory bank."

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9/22/2011 9:55 AM
B Ward
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Ha! Okay, that was good.

Here's the thing, gang.  Hasbro's not evil.  They're certainly no Eric Raymond.  In fact, it was their idea to do something with the music.  Here's the kicker: We were all thrilled to do something.  And we all went looking for those elusive master tapes.  And... we can't find them.  Anywhere. 

Doesn't mean you'll never see something along those lines.  It just means we ran out of time.  We did, after all, have a DVD set to release, first and foremost.  But the quality has to be right.  What might be "good enough" to some fans isn't necessarily good enough for us.  We're professionals; not bootleggers.  So if we do something with that music, it'll be professionally done.  And the money's gotta be right.  We've got a great relationship with Hasbro, but we're also realistic about sales expectations on a Jem soundtrack CD.  If they're asking Taylor Swift money, I'm afraid we've gotta bow out. 

C'mon, that won't happen.  I'm exaggerating for the point.  But yeah.  A deal would have to be done and the quality has to be there.  Which means those tapes have to be found.  We've got an amazing relationship with Hasbro.  They're not the bad guys, I assure you.  Don't lose hope, gang.

Until then, Hope you enjoy the set.

Brian

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9/23/2011 3:46 AM
JATH80
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
I really don't care about the order of the episodes on the set. I am so excited that the series is being released on DVD in its entirety. FINALLY!!!!!!

Katy Perry as Jem Emma Stone as Kimber Fergie as Pizzazz for the Jem and the Holograms movie...You got my vote!
9/23/2011 10:15 AM
mraw
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RE: re: Jem DVDs

"It just means we ran out of time"... woo woo woo woo!! :-)

I've read that Hasbro will make an announcement concerning Jem at NY Comic Con in October. Something makes me think that they are planning on releasing the music themselves instead of licensing it out, possibly with a new doll line.

I've already pre-ordered the set and I'm excited to get it. Thanks for all your hard work, Brian!

9/23/2011 3:16 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Brian Ward, are you "Briguy1978" on Wikipedia? I almost choked when I saw this edit, " The one other person who finds out about Synergy is the U.S. President when Jem ..." .
What about the chief of that village in that "bad episode" that shall not be named. I thought it was Brian of TotallyJem, who if he made such a mistake should turn over his site to me :D .

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9/23/2011 3:17 PM
Tara
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Sorry for the radio silence, but I got my promo set and almost immediately I finished work that day, started watching the featurettes and extras. I love all the brand new material SHOUT produced! Especially the interviews with people involved with the production from whom I hadn't heard before like Barry Harmon. And the fan testimonials were great--I love that we saw a wide range of people, and how clearly their love for the material and the property comes through.

In the fortnight since my box set arrived, I've been... let's say "indoctrinating" my flatmate, who was born in the late 1980s and had never seen JEM before. So far we've watched "Talent Show" 1&2, "The Bands Break Up", "Britrock", "The Stingers Hit Town" 1&2, and "Riot's Hope", and as someone who grew up a generation after I did, it's been amazing to see her fall in love with the series just as much as I did.

I'm continually amazed at how well the show stands up--not just the writing (with folks like Christy Marx, Marv Wolfman, Buzz Dicon, Greg Weisman, Mary Skrenes, etc. that really wasn't a surprise), but also the animation and effects. Every once in a while I'd break out my favourite episodes to show friends, and I always worry that I was perhaps blinded by my childhood love and nostalgia. But nope--it's just good solid action/adventure series with strong relationships among the characters, and huge fun to watch no matter in which decade you were born :)

I have to give a HUGE shout out to the art directors and illustrators as well. I love the packaging design by Karrie Stouffer, and Eamon O'Donoghue's illustrations just blew me away. From the sparkly set sleeve to the rendering of Synergy on the insert cards, I am so impressed with the attention to detail. I especially love the DVD labels as records, and the palm tree vector art!

The extra that meant the most to me as a fangirl, however, was the inclusion of the Hasbro toy licensing kit on the DVD_ROM. I was lucky enough to get a copy of the JEM series bible years ago, but I'd never been able to see the gorgeous character artwork by Sharon Knettell in such detail before. It's so amazing for fans to have access to that material so the entire JEM community can appreciate it for the first time, rather than just a tiny handful of collectors!

HUGE props to Brian and SHOUT, and thanks to all the fans who opened up their JEM collections to share such great extras with other fans!
9/23/2011 3:33 PM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
I knew you would like that :)

----- Original Post -----
by Tara at 9/23/2011 3:17:59 PM

> The extra that meant the most to me as a fangirl, however, was the inclusion of the Hasbro toy licensing kit on the DVD_ROM.


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9/23/2011 6:52 PM
Zeroninety
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RE: re: Jem DVDs

Wow, I never saw Jem as a kid (too macho at that age to watch a girls' show), but after catching the reruns on the Hub, I've fallen in love with this series. Breathlessly soapy, with witty humor, some wildy creative animation, insanely catchy songs, and complex, endearing characters (watching the earliest episodes again, I'm reminded of how much more layered and sympathetic the Misfits would become, when it would have been easy to just keep them sociopathic hellions).   

I've got my order placed, and I'm looking forward to getting my box set in the mail. Since it's Shout, I've got no doubt it'll be great!

9/23/2011 7:03 PM
Zeroninety
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RE: re: Jem DVDs

She showed the old woman she was really Jerrica, but I don't recall her explaining that Synergy was responsible, so I think that's technically accurate. :)

(A pretty silly ep, but with some entertaining Misfit antics. Plus, one of my favorite one-off characters: the sarcastic old man in Shangri-La! "You're going to teach me?" "No, we're having *tea*! Now pay attention!" :D  )

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 9/23/2011 3:16:34 PM

Brian Ward, are you "Briguy1978" on Wikipedia? I almost choked when I saw this edit, " The one other person who finds out about Synergy is the U.S. President when Jem ..." .
What about the chief of that village in that "bad episode" that shall not be named. I thought it was Brian of TotallyJem, who if he made such a mistake should turn over his site to me :D .

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9/23/2011 7:15 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
You got me, I was reading it as "who else knows Jem's true identity. My apologies to whichever Brian added it.

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9/24/2011 4:02 PM
riot4jem
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
It's Lowen that thinks there is something faults about Jem -- not sure how Jerrica would be any better. Not sure how someone that prances around with a fake identity would any better then the fake identity. (I would never go by briguy and it would be 1976)

But I got questions for Brian -- so how was the season break down decided? Was the Stingers episodes listed as the third season on the list? And did you realize that breaking up the seasons like this causes everyone to need to get Seasons Two and Three in order to get all the episodes missing from Rhino's Season 3, Part 2?

totallyjem.jemmagic.com
9/24/2011 5:53 PM
braxton
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9/30/2011 3:14 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Looks like Wal-mart is going to carry the complete set in stores. So everyone head over on the 6th or 7th  and look for boxes with a green stripe labeled "Time Sensitive Release SST 10/11/2011", it should be inside one of them. Hopefully the register won't restrict the sale!

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10/1/2011 12:21 PM
Hondo
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
I'd still rather have the Extended Version of the first five Jem episodes on dvd than the short Super Sunday ones, especially in a complete series set. At least the Super Sunday is available is available in region 2, until Shout can put in out later if they get the masters. Oh, and I will NOT be getting rid of my Rhino JEM sets, regardless of the "Jem Girl" theme playing too early in the shows and horrid box art. Those sets costs a pretty penny, but besides that I think they're great. They are the standard to which we compare any Jem sets too. The menus are nice, bumpers are included and we even got Samantha Newark and Britta Philips interviews. So toss out your old sets if you want, I'll just have to have two collections or just pick up shouts season three set (and apparently season two).
10/1/2011 1:57 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
According to people who have received the DVD set episodes 2-5 are the extended editions. I always feel that if you want someone to enjoy Jem you start them from "The Beginning" and you don't want their first experience to be the Jem girl theme song.

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10/1/2011 9:31 PM
Sheri330
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RE: re: Jem DVDs
Which countries do Region 2 DVD's come from? Thank You.
10/1/2011 10:10 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs
Europe, Middle East, Greenland, and South Africa. You have to be very careful the method they used to convert the material to the PAL (video format in those countries) usually causes a change in the audio pitch that could be very noticeable for a cartoon with music and high voices like Jem.

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10/3/2011 3:17 AM
Vasiliy
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RE: The Official JEM Thread

Hey guys! Russian Jemboy here :-) I'm confused because of the differents versions of the first 5 episodes.

Could you please make it clear for me - do I have to buy Australian DVD "JEM, volume 1" by MRA to get all the versions if I already have The Truly Outrageous movie DVD, Rhino DVDs and have pre-ordered SF The complete series DVD set?

10/3/2011 9:06 AM
B Ward
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
If any of you guys are planning a trip to New York Comic-Con (Oct 13-16), be sure to stop by the Hasbro booth for your chance to take a picture with Jem and receive goodies!

Brian

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10/3/2011 4:14 PM
riot4jem
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I'm thinking about going, but I wish we knew more. Like what goodies and is Hasbro going to be showing anything for an upcoming Jem release? I would hate to spend the money on the flight and hotel just for a bag of popcorn and some Mike&ikes

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10/4/2011 4:48 PM
JATH80
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RE: The Official JEM Thread
I can't wait till next week!!!!!! http://www.manbehindthedoll.com/images/jemart.jpg http://assets.gearlive.com/celebrities/blogimages/katy-perry-pink-instyle.jpg

Katy Perry as Jerrica Benton Emma Stone as Kimber Annie Ilonnzeh as Shana Fergie as Pizzazz for the Jem and the Holograms movie...You got my vote!
10/4/2011 10:52 PM
Jerrica17
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Member since: 3/19/2009
RE: re: Jem DVDs

Hey Braxton,

I know I'm very late in seeing this, but I just wanted to let you know I've never posted to Wikipedia about anything. Not sure what you're talking about there. It could have possibly been my co-host but I don't know. (he better not be using my name). Anyway the episode order doesn't bother me much. I am just thrilled to finally have all of Jem (plus wonderful extras) on DVD!! :-) And an extra big thanks to Brian for agreeing to do an interview for KJEM Radio.

----- Original Post -----
by braxton at 9/16/2011 5:52:13 PM

Brian - For the all effort you put into your website and how it changed your life you deserve a copy of the masters. Jerrica17 - I had to remove your comment from the episode guide on Wikipedia because it's not appropriate to add discussion remarks in articles, the order is based on the original airing order and it can't be changed every time a new channel runs it or a DVD is released.
10/4/2011 11:21 PM
braxton
Member since: 7/12/2011
RE: re: Jem DVDs

I sync'd both Rhino and Shout on the same music video so you can see what both look like running at the same time. You should view this in 720p.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKnLciHir-s

Here is a comparison screenshot between Rhino and Shout! showing the biggest difference in quality.
http://jerrica.dyndns.tv/.jem/compare1.png

This screenshot is more representative of the quality difference in general
http://jerrica.dyndns.tv/.jem/compare2.jpg

A screenshot from the "Stingers Hit Town Part 1"
http://jerrica.dyndns.tv/.jem/stingers.png

A composite screenshot of Riot, up-scaled to HD but you'll notice the color and detail are pretty good on the Shout!
set in the later episodes
http://jerrica.dyndns.tv/.jem/riot.jpg
 
I went into detail about the issues I noticed on the Jemcon forums, I also posted an addition to my review on Amazon if anyone wants more information. The video looks to have not been modified at all, the audio is good most of the time but occasionally there is an echo that I can't explain. The echo shows up in songs like "Only the Beginning", the opening of "Deception" , and "Beat This". The echo also appears in the title sequence sometimes, like what Shout posted on their Youtube page.

Episode 1 is somewhere between the Super Sunday version and Rhino, it has an extremely long preview of the next episode. Original commercial bumper (static image) , original opening, original 1985 credits from Super Sunday which have scenes from the first five episodes and instrumental Jem theme.

Episodes 2-5  Same as Rhino during the episodes,  correct opening sequence, incorrect commercial bumpers (same as Rhino) standard credits with Jem theme.

Episodes 6- Instrumental opening sequence , original commercial bumpers (static image) , instrumental credits with scenes from episodes 1-5 as well as the opening sequence,not the same as the 1985 credits.

Episode 7 correct original opening sequence, original commercial bumpers (static image), standard credits with Jem theme.

Episode 8 - Instrumental opening sequence, Incorrect commercial bumpers (like Rhino), instrumental credits standard style , not the same as episode 6 or 1.


The Mitigating Factor
10/7/2011 9:28 AM
JackDVD78@aol.com
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Member since: 4/22/2009
RE: re: Jem DVDs

And the Previous POST... I looked at the screen YOUTUBE comparison video, **** The RHINO has very strong lines etc... the Shout Looks washed out and fuzzy looking? Are you shure you didn't Note the screens correctly? Cause the LEFT hand you have as the SHOUT and that one is not as defined looking and the RIGHT hand side looks really clean looking IMO?

Love that Tuesday is almost here and for what most retailers a