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12/10/2009 3:52 PM
N8 Storm
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C.O.P.S.

To Brian or another shout rep,

Now that Sonic and some other shows are getting finished off as exclusives, what are the chances that C.O.P.S. gets a complete release in one or two more volumes (or even as a complete series set)?

12/10/2009 4:05 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I'll say this much: the chances are exponentially better than they were prior to this release strategy.

Brian

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12/10/2009 5:26 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: C.O.P.S.
What did I miss about a new release strategy and could this mean Jayce will be coming soon?

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 12/10/2009 4:05:20 PM

I'll say this much: the chances are exponentially better than they were prior to this release strategy.

Brian

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12/10/2009 6:14 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

The direct to consumer DVD releases by Shout of Sonic and some other shows, see the middle paragraphs of this news post:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Adventures-Sonic-Hedgehog-Volume-3/13095

 


----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 12/10/2009 5:26:59 PM

What did I miss about a new release strategy and could this mean Jayce will be coming soon?

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 12/10/2009 4:05:20 PM

I'll say this much: the chances are exponentially better than they were prior to this release strategy.

Brian

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12/11/2009 12:30 PM
Officer Nightshade
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Awesome! I  hope that this happens soon be dying to see more episodes. Any release of the rest of the episodes would be great! I mean look at what amazon did for the nicktoons and they are selling like hot cakes. As well as what timelife did with the Real Ghostbusters.
12/14/2009 2:59 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
That makes me feel good about its chances.  Hopefully, it happens soon.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 12/10/2009 4:05:20 PM

I'll say this much: the chances are exponentially better than they were prior to this release strategy.

Brian

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12/16/2009 5:17 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
It says on wikipedia that C.O.P.S. Volume 2 is coming out on March 16, 2010.  Is that true or is somebody just making that up?
12/17/2009 7:58 PM
coughler
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RE: C.O.P.S.
World Events is doing Exclusives 2. I got 2 volumes of Denver The Lost Dinosaur and Vyor. So now shouts on board with this. This could snow ball and other companies do the same. Im dying to get a copies of COPS and Jayce and Sonic

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 12/10/2009 4:05:20 PM

I'll say this much: the chances are exponentially better than they were prior to this release strategy.

Brian

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12/18/2009 5:59 AM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
COOL! FINALLY! At long last you guys are releasing all of C.O.P.S. on DVD. That's Awesome news! :D Don't forget to include the The Case of C.O.P.S. File #1 Part 1 version where Sundown and Highway are researched, ok? Not to mention the episode, The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted. Include that in the upcoming release, ok?
12/19/2009 1:31 PM
coughler
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Please dont disclude any xmas specials LMAO

12/25/2009 6:19 PM
JimmyPSHayes
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I REALLY hope that volume 2 of COPS gets released! I'd buy copies for my friends too.
12/26/2009 2:18 AM
zg123
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Yes plz!! that will be superb!

cant wait to buy it...

12/31/2009 5:17 PM
king kahn
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I joined this site JUST to voice that I also want C.O.P.S. vol 2 on dvd.  I even did it on New Year's Eve! Do you know the time it takes to search out and sign up at a site???

I have been waiting for YEARS now.

I bought C.O.P.S. Vol. 1 the DAY it came out and have been WAITING patiently(well not THAT patient) ever since.

If they can release other shows on dvd that didnt have toys, comics, etc tied to it why not this?

PLEASE don't be like those other companies and drop the ball and give collectors incomplete collections. You did so well on the last volume.

to sweeten the deal:
If released, I will send the maker of vol. 2 a fruit roll up. They can choose the flavor.
1/1/2010 5:50 PM
DaJerry
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I'm really looking forward to more C.O.P.S. sets.   I'll definitely be getting multiple copies for me and my friends.  Please release this soon!
1/6/2010 3:43 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Wow.  People joined JUST to tell us they wanted more C.O.P.S.  Then, y'know what?  It's happening.  I can't tell you when, but I can say that I'm working on volume two, which will be released via Direct-to-Consumer this year.

Obviously, this is a big deal for me, personally, as C.O.P.S. was the very first DVD set I produced for Shout! Factory.  So it gives me great pleasure to say that your voices have been heard over these last few years and you can expect to see the fruits of making those voices heard soon.

So there.  Enjoy!

Brian

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1/6/2010 3:53 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
This is most awesome.  So will this be like the rest of the 2/3 episodes left or another 1/3 of the episodes like the last volume?
1/6/2010 3:57 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
It'll be another third on four discs.

Brian

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1/6/2010 6:43 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: C.O.P.S.
YES!!!!!  This news just made my day.  Time to do that proper re-master of my review of Volume 1 and get it re-posted...

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 1/6/2010 3:43:06 PM

Wow.  People joined JUST to tell us they wanted more C.O.P.S.  Then, y'know what?  It's happening.  I can't tell you when, but I can say that I'm working on volume two, which will be released via Direct-to-Consumer this year.

Obviously, this is a big deal for me, personally, as C.O.P.S. was the very first DVD set I produced for Shout! Factory.  So it gives me great pleasure to say that your voices have been heard over these last few years and you can expect to see the fruits of making those voices heard soon.

So there.  Enjoy!

Brian

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1/7/2010 3:28 AM
byinfernoslight
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I just joined to thank you for vol 2! Been waiting a very long time for this. Is it possible for international fans to get hold of Direct-to-Consumer stuff?
1/7/2010 6:19 AM
mike962
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RE: C.O.P.S.
So Brian does it mean that we could expect shows such as STARCOM, Bionic Six, Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future etc be finally   released in this way ?  
1/7/2010 8:13 AM
krazyclown
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RE: C.O.P.S.
was waiting for vol 2 to be conformed to be come out before i bought the first one ordering it now  
1/7/2010 8:14 AM
krazyclown
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RE: C.O.P.S.
so C.O.P.S will be a 3 vol set when done then

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by B Ward at 1/6/2010 3:57:16 PM

It'll be another third on four discs.

Brian

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1/7/2010 10:10 AM
DaJerry
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Thanks, Brian! Everybody get on your feet and do the happy dance!! I'm going to pony up the dough for Volume 2 as promised, but please don't stop till the series is released in its entirety on DVD.
1/7/2010 10:40 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Yeah, it looks like the complete series would be a three-volume set, when all is said and done.  I'm currently revisiting the project to see if there's anything I can still include for bonus materials.  Perhaps some more background art.  I still want to include one piece of video I had ready for the first the volume, but wasn't allowed to include, due to certain clearances.  But we'll see.  Because this is direct-to-consumer, our budgets are very limited, so don't be surprised if the second volume is just the episodes.

Brian

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1/7/2010 6:30 PM
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RE: C.O.P.S.

This ia great news! (and yeah, I only came to tell you I want more C.O.P.S too )

Thank you!!!

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 1/6/2010 3:43:06 PM

Wow.  People joined JUST to tell us they wanted more C.O.P.S.  Then, y'know what?  It's happening.  I can't tell you when, but I can say that I'm working on volume two, which will be released via Direct-to-Consumer this year.

1/7/2010 6:52 PM
Greenspan
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Hi! I just saw the great news on http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/ and I just registered to tell you how happy I am :) I dearly hope the 3rd volume gets released as well. I am a collector of 80's animated shows and I hope that one day you are able to release the remaining Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors episodes. I also am very sad that Disney doesn't release the remaining Gargoyles, what a shame. I would instantly buy M.A.S.K, Inhumanoids and Visionaries too if SHOUT were to make them available. Heck I bought G.I. Joe's and Transformers box set from you and I even buy the single seasons sets just to have back ups. Yep I'm that nuts. Great stuff! Cheers Greenspan
1/7/2010 6:54 PM
nintendolink007
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RE: C.O.P.S.
sweet im glad this is getting revisited. I have Volume one sitting in my collection i was hoping to finish collecting the rest. Hope to see all come out along with the promos at the end. Lets hope for more from the DiC Animation collection by this direct to consumer program.

http://www.thegamemaster.org/
1/7/2010 7:38 PM
Luke2432
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RE: C.O.P.S.

It's too bad that Shout Factory doesn't own the dvd rights for Inspector Gadget any more, but if they did they could've finished that show up and released Gadget Boy and Heather, Gadget Boy's Adventures In History, and Inspector Gadget's Field Trip and maybe even Gadget and the Gadgetinis.

1/7/2010 7:40 PM
Luke2432
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Shout Factory could release DIC's Double Dragon cartoon and Mummies Alive! cartoon.

1/8/2010 8:18 AM
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Wow!  Great news since I've been wanting to see the rest of series since Volume 1 didn't have an episode in it that I've been looking for.  Unfortunately I don't remember what the episode was called since all that I can remember is that one of the female villaninesses on the show got, I think it was Blockade, to slip on a glove while he was sleeping and dance with her so that the glove could get his fingerprints and then she went around framing Blockade.

 

Also, will the C.O.P.S Volume 2 set be available to Canadians?  Or will it be US only?

1/8/2010 8:58 AM
yenrab
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RE: C.O.P.S.

removed

1/8/2010 10:14 AM
Calavera
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Just wanted to express my excitement over the new C.O.P.S. release.  Thanks for making this happen.  It's frustrating when the series I'm collecting stop getting released on disc (EXO Squad, Zeta Project, just to name a couple).  Can I put in a request for Skeleton Warriors?  Not sure if there's much of a demand but I'd love to watch that show again, plus it's only 13 eps so it wouldn't need more than one release.
1/8/2010 12:01 PM
Officer Nightshade
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RE: C.O.P.S.
  AWESOME! Thanks so much! Brian and everyone who pushed for the release to happen. I know we have chatted a few times about this Brian. So glad it’s finally going to happen!  I hope it sells a ton of DVDs so that we can get the final and 3rd part released. Hopefully they are the first run uneddited epiosdes.
1/8/2010 1:38 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
It would be nice if we could at least get those scenes of that episode with Sundown and Highway as an extra on the set if not the whole episode.  They were on the NCircle release, so I know they are still out there.  All of the PSAs as extras would be a nice feature as well.

----- Original Post -----
by Crazyharp81602 at 12/18/2009 5:59:17 AM

COOL! FINALLY! At long last you guys are releasing all of C.O.P.S. on DVD. That's Awesome news! :D Don't forget to include the The Case of C.O.P.S. File #1 Part 1 version where Sundown and Highway are researched, ok? Not to mention the episode, The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted. Include that in the upcoming release, ok?
1/9/2010 3:54 AM
SnakeStorm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Hello,

Yes awesome news. I too joined just to say that I want volume 2 and 3 of the C.O.P.S. tv show on DVD. Can't wait keep up the great work.

SnakeStorm

1/12/2010 10:20 AM
Darkaxx
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Hey there  ; hope we can see this on Jayce and the Wheeled warrios too

How will this Work,. Is it to dowload from Shout?  only for Us citizens?

or others fans as well.

2/2/2010 4:12 PM
Classic Toon Fan
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Just signed up today when I heard about the possibility of getting the Japanese Transformers shows Headmasters, Masterforce, & Victory. But mostly I'm here to support C.O.P.S. getting a Vol. 2 release followed by a Vol. 3 release as this great show deserves to be complete on DVD along with Jayce & the Wheeled Warriors. Heck if Rambo & Freedom Force & Bravestar 2 decent but under whelming shows can get complete DVD releases these two classic franchises deserve the same respect.

Thanks for your time!

Rob

2/3/2010 8:56 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Nice to see C.O.P.S. Volume 2 listed for the early part of 2010:

http://www.shoutfactory.com/browse/313/exclusives.aspx

2/8/2010 3:50 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Looks like a 3/16/10 release for this title and Sonic.  I would have liked to have seen Bulletproof or some other characters on the cover (never did like the volume 1 cover), but it is probably cheaper to just keep the same cover with a different color.

http://www.shoutfactory.com/browse/17/cops.aspx

2/8/2010 4:37 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Trust me, the artwork we were provided for the individual characters wasn't something you wanted to see on a cover. 

Brian

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2/8/2010 5:42 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Ok.  Any chance of getting these scenes as a bonus or something?

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by N8 Storm at 1/8/2010 1:38:58 PM

It would be nice if we could at least get those scenes of that episode with Sundown and Highway as an extra on the set if not the whole episode.  They were on the NCircle release, so I know they are still out there.  All of the PSAs as extras would be a nice feature as well.

----- Original Post -----
by Crazyharp81602 at 12/18/2009 5:59:17 AM

COOL! FINALLY! At long last you guys are releasing all of C.O.P.S. on DVD. That's Awesome news! :D Don't forget to include the The Case of C.O.P.S. File #1 Part 1 version where Sundown and Highway are researched, ok? Not to mention the episode, The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted. Include that in the upcoming release, ok?
2/9/2010 8:28 AM
krazyclown
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RE: C.O.P.S.
when i click buy now for the vol 2 set nothing happens is any one else having this problem
2/9/2010 9:45 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I'd check back Monday or Tuesday, I think.  Legally, we're not allowed to take orders more than 30 days before its release.  I think it's slated for the 16th of March, so try Tuesday.

Brian

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2/9/2010 12:03 PM
krazyclown
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Thanks

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 2/9/2010 9:45:28 AM

I'd check back Monday or Tuesday, I think.  Legally, we're not allowed to take orders more than 30 days before its release.  I think it's slated for the 16th of March, so try Tuesday.

Brian

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2/9/2010 1:39 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU! :D
2/10/2010 3:43 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Not really anything we don't already know, but this link has a bigger picture of the Volume 2 cover:

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/COPS-Volume-2/13317

2/12/2010 4:22 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Brian, any chance that you can tell us what the extras (if any) are for this set?
2/12/2010 4:23 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Sadly, there are no bonus features on this set.  I couldn't get them approved in time.  Perhaps for the third volume.

Brian

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2/13/2010 7:30 AM
Schuyler
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Thank for releasing C.O.P.S Vol 2.
2/14/2010 10:09 AM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
All I wanted to say was this:

Brian - thank you VERY much for making this release happen. Since '06 I have been waiting for this to come out. You can imagine I completely lost hope but it seems faith has prevailed. Please ensure that Vol. 3 is released, this is something so much of us would love to see finished. I'll be posting about this on numerous sites and forums to spread some word, you can be certain I'll be buying my copy on the first day of release.

Now if only Sega would finally release Shenmue 3 (anybody know what I'm talking about???).

All the best.

P.S. Does this mean we can only purchase the set on this site? I ordered the first volume from Amazon and actually found it in stores as well (I worked at HMV).

P.P.S. Would it be possible to reveal how much Vol. 1 sold? I am still very curious about this. Honestly I just want this series finished, I wouldn't even care if Vol. 3 is also a bare-bones release; I just want it completed. Thanks!
2/16/2010 10:19 AM
Grifter02
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RE: C.O.P.S.
No shipping to Canada? How am I supposed to buy it???
2/16/2010 11:29 AM
mike962
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RE: C.O.P.S.
go to a hotel in the US and have it shipped there ? !
2/16/2010 11:32 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I'm not sure about our Canadian rights via DTC.  It's possible you may be able to get the set from us here.  Regardless, if you go to Amazon or eBay, there is a seller there that will be carrying our DTC titles.  Not positive if they'll have them on the street date, so buying them directly from Shout! may be your best option if you're in the States, but if you're not, at least you know you'll still be able to get the titles eventually.

Brian

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2/16/2010 11:34 AM
ericmylad
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Preorder for Volume 2 is up!!!  Just ordered my copy.
2/16/2010 11:39 AM
krazyclown
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RE: C.O.P.S.
thanks for the heads up ordering now

----- Original Post -----
by ericmylad at 2/16/2010 11:34:24 AM

Preorder for Volume 2 is up!!!  Just ordered my copy.
2/16/2010 1:52 PM
Grifter02
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Thanks Brian,
The price will be higher to order from a seller on Amazon or eBay, right? Maybe I'll have to ask my uncle who lives in the states if I can have it sent to him. Does the Shout store ship to PO Boxes?

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by B Ward at 2/16/2010 11:32:42 AM

I'm not sure about our Canadian rights via DTC.  It's possible you may be able to get the set from us here.  Regardless, if you go to Amazon or eBay, there is a seller there that will be carrying our DTC titles.  Not positive if they'll have them on the street date, so buying them directly from Shout! may be your best option if you're in the States, but if you're not, at least you know you'll still be able to get the titles eventually.

Brian

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2/16/2010 4:01 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I ordered my set.
2/17/2010 12:06 AM
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I've been checking amazon every month for new G.I. Joe vol. and I was so frustrated that there's still no Vol. 2 of C.O.P.S. that I decided to check Shout's website. Lucky I did and saw the Direct-to-customer vol. 2. Without any hesitation, I added it to the cart and paid for it. I would like to thank you Brian and the rest of the Shout staff for releasing more C.O.P.S. I bought the first vol. the day it came out, and will be looking forward to vol. 3. I also bought Jayce and the Wheeled warriors the day of, but heard that the sales wasn't to good for it. hope there will be a Direct to consumer exclusive down the road. I will continue getting the G.I. Joes and Transformers. Hopefully the DIC Joes and Jem will be coming out in the future. Thanks again.
2/17/2010 10:02 AM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Hey, I notice there's no C.O.P.S. for kids PSA segments on Vol.2. What a bummer. Could you put in all the C.O.P.S. for kids PSA segments in Vol. 3 please, including the segments featuring live action police officers? Thanks.
2/17/2010 4:13 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I noticed originally Volume 2 was stated as being a 4 disc set with 22 episodes, but now it looks like a 3 disc set with 21 episodes.  Since there are 66 episodes, a Volume 3 would need to include 23 episodes. 
2/18/2010 3:36 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Looking at the wikipedia episode guide,  it appears that "The Case of The Crook With A Conscience" got skipped over.  Any reason for that? With 66 episodes, I was kind of surprised that 21 episodes instead of 22 are on the set.  thanks.

Link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C.O.P.S._episodes

2/21/2010 6:40 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

To Brian or another Shout rep,

Was there any particular reason why "The Case of The Crook With A Conscience" got skipped?  It should be between the episodes, "The Case Of The Big Little Green Men" and "The Case Of Mace’s Romance."  Do you guys have that episode listed in a different spot later(everything else matches up so far between the two volumes), was it just an oversight, is the store page incorrect, is it missing from the masters, or is it something else?  thanks.

2/22/2010 4:31 AM
megatronrules!!
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RE: C.O.P.S.

The shipping to canada is available now, just ordered mine

2/22/2010 12:06 PM
Grifter02
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RE: C.O.P.S.
For $15, ouch! I'll just stick with shipping to my uncle in the states.

----- Original Post -----
by megatronrules!! at 2/22/2010 4:31:15 AM

The shipping to canada is available now, just ordered mine

3/11/2010 5:20 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
In honor of C.O.P.S. Volume 2's release date this Tuesday, it would be cool if the show's intro got played on Shout!'s main page like Adam-12 & Max Headroom.  If there is one thing people remember the most about the show, it is the theme song.  I assume this thing starts shipping on Tuesday.  I'm excited.
3/13/2010 9:15 AM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Any updates on vendors such as Amazon selling this to Canadians? I've been checking and they don't even have Volume 2 listed yet. Thanks.

P.S. I've been spreading word about this set across Youtube and the like, I hope this project succeeds. I really want this show to be completed.
3/15/2010 9:30 AM
DaJerry
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Volume 2 is now listed on Amazon.com for the amazingly insane price of $100.  Since it hasn't been released yet, maybe the price will go down on March 16th, 2010.  But for those of you from Canada and beyond, here's the link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1603994068/
3/15/2010 10:16 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I can assure you, it will NOT be $100.  This may be a placeholder price.

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3/15/2010 8:03 PM
dragin
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Amazon is known for changing the price a lot. 
on a side note has anyone gotten the new volume yet in the mail.
3/16/2010 3:12 AM
DavidLambert
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RE: C.O.P.S.
That price has nothing to do with Amazon.  It is set by the seller, "treasurehunter55", who is a participant in Amazon's "marketplace program" and sells thru their site instead of (or perhaps in addition to) someplace else such as eBay.

Looking at other Shout! items that this seller has listed from Shout!, everything seems at reasonable prices.  The new Sonic is $29.99, the new Two Dads is $24.99, and Goldbergs is $59.99; seems like something screwy is going on with COPS.  Just write the guy and ask, and I'm sure he'll straighten it out.
3/16/2010 4:48 AM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I ordered it from Amazon last Saturday. Yesterday I've been informed that the DVD is on its way. I haven't got it, yet but when I do I'll let you know. 
3/16/2010 1:25 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I haven't gotten a shipping notice from Shout! yet.  Hopfully, it comes soon.
3/16/2010 1:52 PM
megatronrules!!
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Got my box set today and i live in canada, thank you shout!!!

3/16/2010 3:35 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Just noticed the C.O.P.S. commercial on the main page...cool...

3/16/2010 5:13 PM
dragin
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I got mine.  Now I am waiting for the last half. 
3/16/2010 6:28 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Did you get a shipping notice e-mail before you got it?  I looked at my store account and it still says "in process."

----- Original Post -----
by dragin at 3/16/2010 5:13:17 PM

I got mine.  Now I am waiting for the last half. 
3/16/2010 8:27 PM
dragin
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I ordered mine on Thursday the 11th and it was shipped on the 12th. Then it came in the mail on the 15th. the only email I got was before today was the acknowledgment of the order. then today I got the email that said it was shipped on the 12th. Hope that helps NB Storm
3/17/2010 4:37 AM
tomswift2002
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RE: C.O.P.S.

I just received my set yesterday.  Of course I could've had it on the 15th had someone been home when the FedEx person came.  But still, for someone who lives in Canada I'm surprised that I got it so fast. 

 

I'm really enjoying this set so far.  There have been episodes on here that I've had memory fragments of for years (unfortunately so far I haven't been able to find the specific episode that I keep wanting to see).  But I have noticed that you can tell that a few of the tapes were not in the best condition, since a few of the episodes you can hear the tape stretching in a few places when the characters are speaking. 

Also I've played The Case of Mace's Romance and I noticed that the audio was not mixed into a 2-channel mono mix like the rest of the episodes.  Instead the audio on that episode has the voices coming from the left channel with some music on that track, and then the right has the majority of the music and the sound effects, so when you're playing it on a surround system, instead of having all the audio for this mono program coming out of the center speaker the surround system is processing it as a couple of surround signals and making the audio come out of all the speakers and sounding really hollow and echoey with the center speaker consisting mostly of overpowered soundeffects drowning out the vocals.  I'm figuring this is probably how the audio was recorded on the masters you guys at Shout had, since it sounds just how some news stories I've worked on have sounded when they've been mixed for mono broadcast expecting the broadcast VTR to process it into a single mono mix.  Hopefully on a future Volume 3 all the episodes will be in a proper 2.0 mono mix.

Any word yet on plans for a Volume 3?

3/17/2010 6:40 AM
ericmylad
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Preordered mine way back on 2/16, the day it went live on the site.  Still waiting for it.  My account shows "in process" as well.  I'm in Iowa.  I'm glad others are getting theirs but WTH?  I would think those that preordered earliest would have their orders processed first.  Again, not to be a jerk to others who've received it and just ordered it recently, just wondering what's going on.
3/17/2010 6:48 AM
tomswift2002
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RE: C.O.P.S.

I think I pre-ordered min around the 19th of February.  But you're from Iowa?  Strange, I thought orders to the US would've been at their destinations before Canadian orders, since I'm in Ontario.

 

And to the people at Shout, has Volume 2 been a "hot seller" yet?

----- Original Post -----
by ericmylad at 3/17/2010 6:40:58 AM

Preordered mine way back on 2/16, the day it went live on the site.  Still waiting for it.  My account shows "in process" as well.  I'm in Iowa.  I'm glad others are getting theirs but WTH?  I would think those that preordered earliest would have their orders processed first.  Again, not to be a jerk to others who've received it and just ordered it recently, just wondering what's going on.
3/17/2010 1:02 PM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Ordered 3/10.  Just checked the status online and it switched to "shipped" today.   Looking forward to getting it in.

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3/17/2010 1:44 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I got mine today.  I never got an e-mail, but my status does now say "shipped" today.
3/17/2010 1:51 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
No word on a third volume, yet.  Waiting to see how well this second volume sells.

Fingers crossed, gang.

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3/17/2010 2:19 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I noticed this as well.  Brian, is this an issue with the masters or did this episode not get mixed correctly by Shout?  thanks.

Also I've played The Case of Mace's Romance and I noticed that the audio was not mixed into a 2-channel mono mix like the rest of the episodes.  Instead the audio on that episode has the voices coming from the left channel with some music on that track, and then the right has the majority of the music and the sound effects, so when you're playing it on a surround system, instead of having all the audio for this mono program coming out of the center speaker the surround system is processing it as a couple of surround signals and making the audio come out of all the speakers and sounding really hollow and echoey with the center speaker consisting mostly of overpowered soundeffects drowning out the vocals.  I'm figuring this is probably how the audio was recorded on the masters you guys at Shout had, since it sounds just how some news stories I've worked on have sounded when they've been mixed for mono broadcast expecting the broadcast VTR to process it into a single mono mix.  Hopefully on a future Volume 3 all the episodes will be in a proper 2.0 mono mix.

3/17/2010 5:52 PM
DaJerry
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Good news, folks!  The exclusive amazon.com seller has lowered the price of C.O.P.S. Volume 2 to $29.95.  A great deal for international fans who can't get this show directly from Shout. Here's the link again: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/1603994068/
3/17/2010 6:49 PM
trustkill01
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RE: C.O.P.S.
B Ward,

     Thanks for putting out vol. 2 of COPS and hopefully vol 3 at some point, got my copy in the mail today, looks great, and for a direct to consumer release the packaging is nice....I thought getting the rest of COPS was a pipe dream but you came through for us, thanks.
3/18/2010 8:06 AM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
...and the set came in yesterday as well!  Love the fast shipping, Shout!

I don't know how much of an audience is out there for this show, but hopefully enough to justify the release of the third and final volume.  It took four years to get volume two released.  I really hope it doesn't take that long to get volume three out into the wild!

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3/18/2010 10:15 AM
yenrab
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RE: C.O.P.S.

removed

3/18/2010 10:25 AM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Oh no! Not another PSA discussion!

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3/18/2010 12:35 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Here's a few more. Mainframe: Skateboard safely (That's where mainframe tells the viewers to safely skateboard away from traffic, but Berserko decides to do it anyway only to crash into traffic.) Another PSA I remember is when Berserko did something I hardly remember which finds himself crashing into Big Boss who's walking alone the sidewalk. I think Berserko was rollerskating or something. Another one I hardly remember is where Berserko and Turbo Tu-tone tries to ride double on a bicycle only to crash into something. That's all I remember about it
3/18/2010 2:01 PM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I really hope people buy this set, it would be heart-breaking if volume 3 never releases :( I hate it when certain media projects go unfinished.
3/18/2010 4:44 PM
seagullzero
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Disc 2 has an episode error. Please be aware of this for labeling issues, and also if Volume 3 is made.

Disc 2 Episode 6, is the The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted

DVDs etc. say The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard, supposedly two different episodes.

Matt
3/18/2010 4:52 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
What a surprise! That's the lost episode people forgot to include when they did the list of C.O.P.S. episodes for their sites! That's awesome! Maybe they'll include the Case of the Crime Nobody Heard in Vol 3. Then we'll have all 66 episodes!
3/18/2010 6:19 PM
metalcrawler
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I received my set in the mail today. I live in Maryland and the shipping address was in Indiana which is good for us on the east coast. This should tide me over until the volume three release. Lets just hope its a few months instead of a few years. Thanks Brian! Now if only Shout Factory could get their hands on the rights to Captain Planet.
3/18/2010 9:52 PM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
This episode is also shorter than the other episodes by about 75 seconds.  Anyone know why that is?

----- Original Post -----
by seagullzero at 3/18/2010 4:44:46 PM

Disc 2 has an episode error. Please be aware of this for labeling issues, and also if Volume 3 is made.

Disc 2 Episode 6, is the The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted

DVDs etc. say The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard, supposedly two different episodes.

Matt


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3/18/2010 11:56 PM
Luke2432
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Is the Cookie Jar logo shown at the end of each episode or is the DIC logo shown?
3/19/2010 11:07 AM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
All right! Got mine today! :)
3/19/2010 11:17 AM
mike962
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RE: C.O.P.S.

so how were the sales Brain ?

 

good, bad ?

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 3/17/2010 1:51:45 PM

No word on a third volume, yet.  Waiting to see how well this second volume sells.

Fingers crossed, gang.

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3/19/2010 2:44 PM
tomswift2002
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Its at the end of every episode. Considering that Cookie Jar bought out DIC a few years ago its not surprising, but at first I was surprised that the old DIC logo wasn't included and then the Cookie Jar logo added on at the end for posterity's sake.

----- Original Post -----
by Luke2432 at 3/18/2010 11:56:44 PM

Is the Cookie Jar logo shown at the end of each episode or is the DIC logo shown?
3/19/2010 3:05 PM
coughler
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I will be getting my copy in the next week or 2.  Sonic as well
3/19/2010 3:56 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

I could care less about the DIC logo vs. Cookie Jar logo.  It has nothing to do with the episodes.

Could The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted & The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard be the same episode?  It would make sense since there are usually only 65 episodes in a season of a weekday show.  Sometimes, episodes of a series go through title changes and maybe that is why the 66 episode titles have popped up on various places on the net.

My only concern so far is with the audio for The Case of Mace's Romance, although the run time for The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted is shorter than a usual episode so could there be any footage missing?

3/19/2010 5:09 PM
seagullzero
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RE: C.O.P.S.
That was my theory too, as the episode titles are similar, but I couldn't find a detailed episode guide on both of them to verify.

I'm just happy they did it, it's great.

Matt
3/23/2010 1:43 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I see C.O.P.S. Volume 2 is on ebay now for $29.99.
3/23/2010 2:43 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
So do I.
3/23/2010 6:32 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I just found another Shout Factory error that needs to be addressed. On disk one, one of the titles says "The Case of the Cold Caveman" while the episode is supposed to be actually entitled "The Case of the Cool Caveman." Anybody notice that?
3/24/2010 1:58 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
It would be nice if mistakes like that didn't happen, but as long as all the episodes are all there and run correctly that is what is the most important.  Overall, I am happy with the release.  I hope we get a third volume to finish it off (& with the PSAs). 
3/24/2010 4:22 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
This was noticed by us, too.  But it's not a "mistake," per se.  Contracts required the title be named "The Case of The Cold Caveman."  This was a contract signed when the episode was first produced, but nonetheless, the powers that be adhere to what was physically signed.  According to the episode, the word is "cool."  According to the tape and the records, the word is "cold."  Our hands were tied.

Brian


----- Original Post -----
by Crazyharp81602 at 3/23/2010 6:32:53 PM

I just found another Shout Factory error that needs to be addressed. On disk one, one of the titles says "The Case of the Cold Caveman" while the episode is supposed to be actually entitled "The Case of the Cool Caveman." Anybody notice that?


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3/24/2010 6:06 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Interesting. But what about the issue involving The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard being changed to The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted, Brian? Are they really one and the same or two separate cartoons? And what about the sound issues The Case of Mace's Romance has? Are you aware of that? If so, are you going to fix the sound issue and send out a disk 2 replacement containing the fixed episode of the Case of Mace's Romance and the other two episodes mentioned?
3/25/2010 9:18 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I am aware of the sound issues, but unfortunately, this was an issue with the original master.  The tape was replaced twice and each time, had the same issue.  I'm afraid there was nothing that could be done in encoding or authoring.  It's the best possible copy DiC/Cookie Jar had to offer.  In fact, it looks considerably better than the previous two tapes we were provided.

According to the records and logs, the episode on the disc is the correct one, in terms of production order.  The packaging was created by looking at the master labels, this one being labeled incorrectly.  The other episode will be included in Vol. 3, where it belongs.

There will be no replacement discs.

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3/25/2010 11:18 AM
Officer Nightshade
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Brian so dose this mean we will get volume 3 with all the rest of the episodes? Do you have any idea when it might get released? I know that volume 2 just came out and that you are very busy. But very excited about the final release
3/25/2010 12:14 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
No word on that, yet.  We have to look at the V2 numbers, first.

Fingers crossed!

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3/25/2010 2:39 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

So Brian, how many episodes does Shout! have of C.O.P.S.?  66 or 65?  Are The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted & The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard different episodes or the same? Thanks.

here is the wiki guide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_C.O.P.S._episodes

3/25/2010 4:58 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Looks like they're two separate episodes to me the way Brian have put it. If so then, we may see The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard in Vol 3.
3/26/2010 11:50 AM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
He made it sound that way, in which case there would be 66 total episodes.  I'd like some official confirmation, though.
3/26/2010 12:05 PM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I'd be more interested in hearing what "The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard" is about.  Brian, when you have time, could you give us a brief description this episode?

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3/29/2010 3:41 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
That would be interesting to know as well...

----- Original Post -----
by savage at 3/26/2010 12:05:06 PM

I'd be more interested in hearing what "The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard" is about.  Brian, when you have time, could you give us a brief description this episode?

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3/29/2010 3:55 PM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I ordered my set off an Ebay store, has already shipped. I expect it this week!

Brian - PLEASE do volume 3! Either way I can't thank you enough for making this happen.
3/31/2010 5:13 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

So are there 66 or 65 episodes?  Should be a pretty easy to answer if Shout has had a copy of the masters for the past 4-5 years...

4/1/2010 5:37 AM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Here's what I came up with. In C.O.P.S. HQ website forum, an individual by the name of Uncle Buttons came along and gave out this message:

"Sorry to disappoint everyone but there are only 65 episodes in total. The famous "66th missing episode" is in fact just an alternate title to the same episode..... yes you guessed right, The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard and The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted is in fact the same episode. My guess is that the "Nobody Wanted" title was the original one but DIC or whoever had control of the cartoon at that time decided to later change the title because it sounded too harsh or something. So they went with a more kid friendly title of the Crime Nobody Heard. The "Nobody Heard" version of the title is pretty clever and fits the episode better imo for those who remember the episode."

When asked how does he know about this, here's his response:

"I used common sense but yeah..... I did have this episode on vhs ages ago. Also, at the start of each episode as we see the Cops folder with the episode title being typed in you will notice that at the top left hand side of each folder there are a bunch of numbers. Each "case" has a number associated to that particular episode. What you want to look at are the last two numbers. I think in something like 90% of the episodes the last two numbers match the production numbers of the episodes. So for example the folder for "The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted" should have something like xxx36. (Maybe you can confirm this as I do not yet have Volume 2) 36 being the production number which is "160036" Does that number look familiar? It should as it's the production number of "The Case of the Crime Nobody Heard" also ending with 36. Conclusion: this is one and the same episode."

Here's the list of episodes along with the production numbers the list goes by.
4/1/2010 2:24 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Sorry, I've been insanely busy, guys.  This is correct.  It is an alternate title to the same episode.

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4/1/2010 2:58 PM
jmodlin210
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Brian,
When is C.O.P.S. Volume 3 going to be released? Thank you.

Jonny
4/1/2010 5:46 PM
Crazyharp81602
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I rest my case. :)

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 4/1/2010 2:24:48 PM

Sorry, I've been insanely busy, guys.  This is correct.  It is an alternate title to the same episode.

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4/2/2010 8:06 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Makes sense, since 65 is a pretty standard number for a syndicated animated series.  5 days a week, on a 13-week cycle.  66 would just be...odd.

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4/3/2010 9:32 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I wonder if different edits of The Case of the Boy Nobody Wanted exist, because the run time is shorter than an average episode.
4/4/2010 2:13 PM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Well, that answers that.  Thanks for the heads up, Brian and everyone else.

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4/5/2010 7:03 AM
JackDVD78@aol.com
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RE: C.O.P.S.

This has probably already been covered but are the direct to consumer Shout titles like C.O.P.S. Volume ; are these releases DVD R or pressed discs?

Thanks for the info

4/5/2010 7:51 AM
TV_Fan
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RE: C.O.P.S.
They are pressed discs, just like all their other sets.  No DVD R.  The only difference with the exclusive titles is where you can purchase them.

Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
4/11/2010 6:09 AM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I got my set finally, ordered it off eBay. I'm just glad to finally have it, cannot believe it has been 4 years since the first volume released. If there is a 3rd volume to be released, please try to have it done soon.
4/12/2010 5:15 AM
Classic Toon Fan
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I just finished watching the entire second volume & you guys did a great job, here's hoping for a third volume & even more hopeful for the end of the year of a release (I can dream can't I? LOL)?
4/13/2010 7:19 AM
take that 1980s!
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Are there plans to re-release C.O.P.S. Volume 1 in the same package format as Volume 2? On the Shout home page it looks like when the C.O.P.S. advertisement comes up on the tv that volume 1 is in the same clear case as what volume 2 is in. Just curious. Stupid to ask I know.
4/13/2010 1:46 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I believe one of our artists did that to make the image on the page look better.  We won't be transferring V1 into the viva cases.

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4/18/2010 8:42 AM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Got my copy, totally love it! I greatly admire Shout! for doing this.

Brian - I know its early but what are the odds of Volume 3 releasing at this point? Thanks for everything you've done, you are definitely one of the coolest entertainment industry people I've ever had the privilege of interacting with. Cheers!
4/18/2010 4:27 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.
I remember Brian once saying that they had a pretty good idea on whether a show was going to have another release after the first month of sales, so hopefully we'll find out sooner than later.  I think a complete release will also help the sales of volumes 1 & 2.
4/27/2010 3:53 PM
dragin
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RE: C.O.P.S.
any news on the chance that vol 3 will be released
4/28/2010 12:18 AM
Officer Nightshade
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Member since: 2/6/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.

Yes it has been almost 7 weeks.....any word on when and if vol. 3 will be released. Sorry to be such a nag Brian, but as you can tell us fans are dying for the rest of the series.

 

 But Honestly we know that you have a lot on your plate and are very busy, but any little tiny bit of an update would be much appreciated Thank you for all your hard work in all you do to try to get our shows on DVD, and taking the time to chat with us on the board.

4/30/2010 4:08 PM
Norieaga
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Member since: 2/14/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
I'm loving the Vol. 2 release. Just watching this show again has me nostalgic (and thus, sad). Please release Vol. 3 and end the show, it would really crush me if it remained unfinished like other great works. All I want is the last 21 episodes on DVD, there don't even have to be any special features or anything.

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEE!
4/30/2010 5:16 PM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Nope.  No plans, yet.  But DTC titles are harder to judge than others.  There isn't a lot of advertising done.  So it takes a little longer than usual to truly get an idea of how well they're going to do.  Be patient, gang.

Brian

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5/2/2010 7:38 AM
Norieaga
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RE: C.O.P.S.
On Youtube the intro alone has 400,000+ views, obviously there is interest. But where are these people now when the sets need the sales? I just hope the DVD plans don't come to a premature end because of basic capitalism. I have posted links all around Youtube, I hope we can all make this a reality.
5/2/2010 9:20 AM
N8 Storm
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Member since: 2/22/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
I don't think Brian necessarily said anything bad or good about C.O.P.S. Volume 2 sales.  Obviously specific numbers can't be talked about, but I'd be curious to know how C.O.P.S. did in relation to Sonic 3 and Bump in the Night.  I don't expect Shout! to be a charity, but if they think they can release a Volume 3 and at least breakeven, I hope they do it for the C.O.P.S. fans.  I'm all for being patient...as long as it gets released.    Whether 4 months from now or a year from now, hopefully, it will see a full release.  I've mentioned the C.O.P.S. Volume 2 release in several forums.
5/3/2010 10:46 AM
Norieaga
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Member since: 2/14/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
I just wanted to point out that there is a petition online with close to a 1,000 signatures about releasing all the C.O.P.S. on DVD.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/more-cops-on-dvd.html
5/3/2010 11:58 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
As for views on YouTube, it really says nothing because it's a free format.  Why pay for something you can watch for free online?  Furthermore, some of those views could be people remembering the show, but wanting to taste it to see if it's good enough to own and deciding against it.  Plus, you have people who've gone back to the page multiple times.  So, YouTube's never a good source to gauge interest in purchasing a series on DVD.

Secondly, the petition is a good start, but it's very easy to sign something to show your support and interest.  It's another to actually go to the effort of buying the set.  Signing a petition doesn't mean they're guaranteed sales.  In fact, routinely, only 10% (maximum) of petition signers usually carry through and purchase the DVDs when they're released.  Others figure they have time and often forget about it or something else takes priority.  We need a minimum of 10,000 to sell via retail to consider it a success.  Fewer via DTC, but still, quite a few.

Keep the word of mouth going.  We find everyday that there are people that don't know these volumes are available via DTC.  They need to know they can get it online at Amazon and our site.  More need to buy it for us to carry on.

Brian

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5/3/2010 4:57 PM
N8 Storm
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Member since: 2/22/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
So you are saying that sales haven't been enough yet to warrant another release?  Bummer.  How has the C.O.P.S. release done compared to your other DTC titles?  Unless I missed it elsewhere, I've seen zero advertising not including this site for the DTC releases.
5/3/2010 8:21 PM
Norieaga
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Member since: 2/14/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
I will keep posting the links around Youtube and spreading word, but I fear the worst :(

EDIT: If this question is not answered I will totally understand, but how many units did Vol. 1 sell? I'm trying to get an idea of just how bad it was.

EDIT: Are there any other places besides YouTube where I can post the links? Any forums or whatever? Looking for any ideas here.
5/4/2010 8:30 AM
Zaranyzerak
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Member since: 5/28/2008
RE: C.O.P.S.
That's very true!  I still get comments on my video review of Volume 1 from people who didn't even know it was out on DVD, and are practically jumping for joy to find out about it!  I'll be re-posting that one in upgraded quality soon (as soon as I get volume 2) and doing a C.O.P.S. Review Week on the Multimedia Chronicles to help hype this baby up!  It'll be a repost of the Volume 1 review in better quality, a new review of Volume 2, and a little something else i think the fans will enjoy.  ;)

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 5/3/2010 11:58:12 AM

Keep the word of mouth going.  We find everyday that there are people that don't know these volumes are available via DTC.  They need to know they can get it online at Amazon and our site.  More need to buy it for us to carry on.

Brian

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5/5/2010 5:21 AM
take that 1980s!
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RE: C.O.P.S.

I purchased my copy of volume 2 but I don't know anyone else who collects cartoons on dvd. Brain Ward, is there a URL banner or something I could tag to my facebook account to help promote it in some way. Friends of friends may see it.
I know that sales have to reach a certain level before the 3rd volume would be considered and I want to help as much as I can.

5/5/2010 2:25 PM
N8 Storm
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Member since: 2/22/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
I've started threads or posted about C.O.P.S. Volume 2 in just about every major forum I can think of that there would be an interest in its release.  It would suck if all my effort ends up being for not.  I've been monitoring it and Sonic on ebay and it was outselling Sonic.  I hadn't been monitoring the other DTC releases as much, but it seemed like it was at least doing as well as them if not better.  I figured this release would be like Denver the Last Dinosaur was for another company which only made a 1000 copies of it, so I didn't think it would have to sell like gangbusters to get another release.  I do hope eventually it gets a Volume 3.  One thing I don't like is if some one does a blind search for C.O.P.S. on the internet the Fox tv show shows up a lot more and it takes a lot of effort to shift through things.
5/6/2010 7:23 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S.

Here is a DVD review I came across:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43067/cops-volume-2/

I wouldn't exactly call it a glowing review, but he does recommend it.

5/18/2010 10:29 AM
B Ward
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RE: C.O.P.S.
A recommendation's better than a "Rent It" or, I dunno... "Avoid At All Costs!"

Brian

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5/18/2010 12:36 PM
savage
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RE: C.O.P.S.
"Mildly Recommended."

I chuckled when I read that.  I'm not sure I've ever "mildly recommended" anything. ;)

"Hey, how was that new Double Down sandwich at KFC?"
"Meh, I'd mildly recommend it." :)

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 5/6/2010 7:23:47 PM

Here is a DVD review I came across:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/43067/cops-volume-2/

I wouldn't exactly call it a glowing review, but he does recommend it.



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5/19/2010 5:10 PM
N8 Storm
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Member since: 2/22/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
I was thinking about Volume 3 the other day.  I really hope we get it.  It has perhaps my favorite episode in "The Case of the Lawless Lady" which continues the relationship of Nightshade and Mace as seen in "The Case of Mace's Romance."  A Volume 3 would also have "The Case of the Lowest Crime" in which the Crooks and C.O.P.S. team against a drug dealer.  Also, it would have the debuts of some of the Wave 2 action figures such as Airwave, A.P.E.S., and Powderkeg.
5/20/2010 5:14 AM
Randy Miller III
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Member since: 5/20/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
"Mildly Recommended."

I chuckled when I read that. I'm not sure I've ever 'mildly recommended' anything."


Haha, I realize it sounds a bit wishy-washy, but we just don't have enough "advice" categories for my liking...and it's technically a "Recommended" rating, but I softened it a bit since this is most certainly a niche title. I watched this cartoon growing up---and I realize that some of you guys did too---so I can't let nostalgia affect my reasoning too much.

I sincerely appreciated Volume 2, though, and I enjoyed reading (in hindsight) about Mr. Ward's contributions to it. Thanks for pointing out the source material issue on Episode #12 as well...I suspected that's what it was, but it's always nice to be able to confirm the source of technical issues.

Anyway, I'd love to review a copy of Volume 3 if it ever sees the light of day. Thanks for your efforts...and, of course, for taking the time to read my humble review.

Oh, and I'd definitely not recommend the Double Down. :)

Randy Miller III
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5/20/2010 8:33 AM
Norieaga
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Member since: 2/14/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
Hey Randy,

It'd be great if you could advertise Volume 1 and 2 a bit more on your site. I also hope Volume 3 is released one day, as N8 Storm said it features some of the best episodes. Lawless Lady was also probably my favorite episode overall, I've had to resort to Youtube to watch it. Anyway, I blogged about this DVD and the individual entry has received 206 views. Let's hope that did at least something.
5/21/2010 10:36 AM
B Ward
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Member since: 1/12/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
Thanks, Randy!  If Volume 3 ever makes it out, I'll be sure to get one out to you.  Love the site, as always!

Brian

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5/24/2010 5:30 AM
Randy Miller III
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Member since: 5/20/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
Norieaga,

Unfortunately, I don't have much say over what does (or doesn't) get advertised on our site...though a cursory glance at our page tracker shows that Volumes 1 and 2 have a combined total of roughly 4,000 hits. Not bad!

Brian,

Looking forward to it.
Thanks again for your efforts!

Randy Miller III
www.DVDtalk.com

6/9/2010 10:49 AM
retroguy111
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Member since: 6/9/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.

Hi I joined this messageboard to say: Please finsh up the C.O.P.S. set. I just found vol 2 on ebay! I was so very stoked to see it after all thes years. I purchased it like lighting! You Just have to finsh up this set!  I had just about given up on it. Please dont take 4 years to make the next volume.

C.O.P.S. VOULME 3 SOON PLEASE!

6/9/2010 3:46 PM
king kahn
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Member since: 12/31/2009
RE: C.O.P.S.
Ok. I NEED volume 3. so many of my childhood shows have gone unfinished. We are SOO close to realizes something great.

a 3rd volume could only help sales of vol 1 and 2 since i know for sure some people are waiting for the full series to be released.

You could also bundle sets for a full series release so it is a win win.

You have already paid for the rights to the show so you might as well get the most out of that investment right?

if you promise you will put out volume 3 i will guarantee 3-4 more sales the minute I read the confirmation PLUS i will give deluxe backrubs to all that are involved with  approving the decision on volume 3 :D
6/14/2010 11:22 AM
Norieaga
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Member since: 2/14/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
I also think sales of the previous volumes would increase if the whole series were to be completed. Here's hoping!
6/22/2010 2:15 PM
N8 Storm
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Member since: 2/22/2007
RE: C.O.P.S.
I think one thing C.O.P.S. has going for it is that there is enough of a hardcore base of fans to help spread the word around the net of its release (and the same for a would be Volume 3 would be true) unlike some of the other Shout! Select titles who I don't think have that same support, which I'm guessing has helped C.O.P.S. Volume 2 outperform or keep up with some of the other Shout! Select releases.  I agree with others that a Volume 3 release would help the sales of Volume 1 & 2, since the complete series would then be out and I know some fans have been waiting for that.
7/10/2010 10:31 AM
Jay G
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Member since: 5/17/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.

Is there going to be a vol. 3?  I have not bought vol. 2, but would if I knew a vol. 3 was coming.  Thirty bucks is a lot to pay for an unfinished series, but I would be willing to fork over dough if I knew it would be complete at some point.

 

7/12/2010 2:29 PM
Zaranyzerak
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Member since: 5/28/2008
RE: C.O.P.S.
Volume 3 will be more likely to happen if Volume 2 sells well.  Sitting on the fence just because the entire series isn't out yet actually does more harm than good in terms of the rest being released.


----- Original Post -----
by Jay G at 7/10/2010 10:31:07 AM

Is there going to be a vol. 3?  I have not bought vol. 2, but would if I knew a vol. 3 was coming.  Thirty bucks is a lot to pay for an unfinished series, but I would be willing to fork over dough if I knew it would be complete at some point.

 



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7/13/2010 10:36 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: C.O.P.S.
Got my Volume 2 yesterday (Thanks TreasureHunter55!  You're an awesome ebay/amazon seller!) and promptly marathoned the whole dang set!  I think I missed C.O.P.S. more than I realized....lol!  The aforementioned "C.O.P.S. Week" Reviews to go up a little later this week....

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
7/15/2010 6:15 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: C.O.P.S. Week on The Multimedia Chronicles has begun!
C.O.P.S. Week has begun!

Continuing my humble efforts to try and bring more well deserved attention to the DVDs of our favorite show about COPS n' CROOKS from the future, I've done a series of video reviews on both volumes (plus reposted my old 2008 vid in much nicer quality, with a new intro), plus tossed in a look at the comic book series just for fun!

Part 1 - Calling All C.O.P.S. Fans!  C.O.P.S. (aka CyberCOPS) on DVD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSDoqDMPJSQ

Part 2 - A more in-depth review of Volume 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8KRecn9ymY

Part 3 - In-depth review of Volume 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBMUlBJ-oS0

Part 4 - Rant about FAN SUPPORT and why it is crucial to releases like C.O.P.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k-1q2i1ziI

Part 5 - All About the C.O.P.S. Comic Book!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfJUv2vm-A

Tell your friends!  Tell your enemies!  Repost the links anywhere and everywhere!  Let's make every single C.O.P.S. fan FULLY aware of these DVD releases and get 'em fired up to support them!

Whew!  Now if THAT doesn't fire up some action on the part of fans, I don't know what will!  Enjoy the vids, folks.

Until next time....SAYONARA!


The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
7/16/2010 3:18 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S. Week on The Multimedia Chronicles has begun!

Nice reviews.  I hope we get the final 22 episodes on DVD.  The main extra I'd like to see on a Volume 3 are the remaining PSAs  (which could be put on a continuous loop like an episode if that would save time and space).   If they could include a remix of The Case of Mace's Romance or the missing scenes of Highway/Sundown from The Case of C.O.P.S. File #1 Part 1, that would be cool as well.

7/18/2010 3:09 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: C.O.P.S. Week on The Multimedia Chronicles has begun!
Thanks N8Storm!  I'm definitely pleased with the comments they've been getting - lots of folks (hopefully) going to buy the DVDs now after seeing the reviews.  Hopefully it will help....not to mention help encourage some of the OTHER animated shows Shout currently has in limbo get finished on DVD (*cough*JAYCE*cough*).

The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
7/18/2010 8:39 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: C.O.P.S. Week on The Multimedia Chronicles has begun!

I have no idea what the sales numbers are on the Shout! website, but I've been monitoring Amazon sale rankings and Ebay sales over the months of the Shout! Select titles and I'd say C.O.P.S. Volume 2 has been doing better or in the same ball park as most of the Shout! Select titles. 

Zaranyzerak, I suggest that you post your C.O.P.S. videos on some message boards as well if you haven't already.  I've spread the word about C.O.P.S. Volume 2 being on DVD on several message boards over the months and have been able to bring in some sales. 

 I really hope we get that last volume. 

17 hours, 2 mins ago
records1138
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Member since: 7/29/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.

While it's true that sitting on the fence won't get the rest of the series out there, it has been seen time and time again where people will commit to purchasing a series on DVD only to have it suddenly fizzle away leaving people without a complete series.  That's why people will wait for an entire series before they'll jump in.  They've been burned too many times.  That's certainly why I'm waiting.  I want the C.O.P.S. series - The complete series.  Not 2/3 of it.

This is why a series should be released as a whole up front, and not bother dealing with volumes.  Sure it's more expensive, but if it's readily available, more people will bite.

16 hours, 18 mins ago
Uncle Buttons
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Member since: 7/29/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
You have much to learn young grasshopper :D We all want the complete series. But two-thirds is better than nothing.


----- Original Post -----
by records1138 at 7/29/2010 6:47:13 PM

 I want the C.O.P.S. series - The complete series.  Not 2/3 of it.

9 hours, 50 mins ago
Zaranyzerak
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Member since: 5/28/2008
RE: C.O.P.S.
And that's the worst possible thing you can do.  I suggest watching Part 4 of my videos posted above - "The Importance of Fan Support."  It's harsh, but it needs to be to properly get the point across.  Just because other people do that, doesn't mean you should.  Sitting on the fence and waiting for an eventual possible complete series set for an obscure, "we're lucky to have it at all, in whole or in part" series like C.O.P.S. does far more harm than good to the chances of seeing the rest of it released.

An obscure show like this CAN'T be released in a full set up front.  The potential sales number just aren't there to justify the expense of producing a set on that scale right away.  This isn't a massive show like Transformers or G.I. Joe, where the up front Complete Series sets were justified.  It's volumes or nothing.  Would you prefer nothing?  Because that's exactly what we'll get if fans don't support releases like these AS THEY COME OUT.  So while you're enjoying nothing, the rest of us are enjoying the first 43 episodes and helping to better the chances of the final volume being released by voting for it with our money.

Anyway, check out the vid.  You might change your outlook after.  I sincerely hope you do.

----- Original Post -----
by records1138 at 7/29/2010 6:47:13 PM

While it's true that sitting on the fence won't get the rest of the series out there, it has been seen time and time again where people will commit to purchasing a series on DVD only to have it suddenly fizzle away leaving people without a complete series.  That's why people will wait for an entire series before they'll jump in.  They've been burned too many times.  That's certainly why I'm waiting.  I want the C.O.P.S. series - The complete series.  Not 2/3 of it.

This is why a series should be released as a whole up front, and not bother dealing with volumes.  Sure it's more expensive, but if it's readily available, more people will bite.



The Multimedia Chronicles and more: http://www.zaranyzerak.com
4 hours, 39 mins ago
Grifter02
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Member since: 1/12/2010
RE: C.O.P.S.
So you'd rather have nothing at all than just most of what you want? That makes no sense to me. I'd rather be left with 2/3 of a series I love than none of it.

----- Original Post -----
by records1138 at 7/29/2010 6:47:13 PM

While it's true that sitting on the fence won't get the rest of the series out there, it has been seen time and time again where people will commit to purchasing a series on DVD only to have it suddenly fizzle away leaving people without a complete series.  That's why people will wait for an entire series before they'll jump in.  They've been burned too many times.  That's certainly why I'm waiting.  I want the C.O.P.S. series - The complete series.  Not 2/3 of it.

This is why a series should be released as a whole up front, and not bother dealing with volumes.  Sure it's more expensive, but if it's readily available, more people will bite.

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