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10/31/2009 5:58 PM
mystro88
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M.A.S.K.

I dont understand why M.A.S.K. is not released yet in North America there is huge interest in this cartoon and I will not rest until its released in North America

11/19/2009 8:15 AM
billstevens
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I would love to see this show on DVD as well.
11/19/2009 10:10 AM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
There are actually a few reasons why it's never been released, which, I'm sure, are discussed in an earlier thread.  Ultimately, it comes down to rights.  DiC produced the series, but doesn't own the license.  That was owned by the toy company, Kenner.  Kenner was bought out by Hasbro.  DiC was bought out by Cookie Jar.  Where does that leave M.A.S.K.?  It's something we've been trying to pinpoint for years, but we're just not quite there, yet.  Maybe one day...

Brian

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12/24/2009 11:50 PM
mystro88
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Well I hope you guys can figure it out soon, there are more and more MASK videos on YouTube and the interest in the series is growing very rapidly. I hope Shout can release it in 2010
1/6/2010 4:02 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I agree that demand seems to exist.  I might point out, however, that an equal amount of interest was shown in regards to Jayce & the Wheeled Warriors.  So, while there are YouTube videos being watched out there, it doesn't necessarily translate into people willing to shell out money.

I'm excited at the prospect of one day being able to release M.A.S.K., if for no other reason, than to own it myself!

Brian

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1/6/2010 5:21 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

According to Cookie Jar's site, they own it, so I don't think rights would be much of an issue:

http://www.thecookiejarcompany.com/cj_shows_mask.php

 

I think M.A.S.K. was way more popular than Jayce.  It wasn't quite to the level of what I call the Big 3 of the 80s (MOTU, G.I. Joe, and Transformers), but it wasn't too far behind.  The toyline did well and the show got some season 2 episodes.

1/6/2010 5:52 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Trust me, Cookie Jar doesn't own it.  DiC produced it, but the property is not owned by DiC or its new parent company, Cookie Jar.

Brian

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1/6/2010 6:29 PM
mystro88
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RE: M.A.S.K.
So the question remains who owns M.A.S.K? This is ridiculous someone must know who owns it, I would buy the entire series for sure, the only company I can think of now that owns it is Hasbro?

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by B Ward at 1/6/2010 5:52:54 PM

Trust me, Cookie Jar doesn't own it.  DiC produced it, but the property is not owned by DiC or its new parent company, Cookie Jar.

Brian

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1/6/2010 9:45 PM
Kevin_Keene
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I agree. But if you really want the series that badly there is a way to get them but they are region 2, and region 4 sets.

You can get set one here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mask-1-Box-Set-DVD/dp/B002FP5ML0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1262842403&sr=1-1

Set two here http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mask-2-Box-Set-DVD/dp/B002G265PE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1262842403&sr=1-4

Also here M.A.S.K. Ultimate Collection http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/805800

I have the first UK set and it comes with episode guide on the inside of the dvd jacket. I also have the MADMAN sets volumes 1 and 2. I have to say that quality is really good and from what I can tell they are uncut. They even include the PSAs at the end of every episode. I wish I had known about the ulitmate collection from MADMAN as its a bit cheaper than buying the 2 volumes individually. Hope this helps some of you MASK fans out there.

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3/9/2010 9:19 AM
PMasterTy9
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Count me in, I will be the first in line to get one if there is a release in the US. I would get the other ones but they are region coded hence I would need region 1 since I am in the US. I do have a PS3 but as far as I know it is region coded to region 1 for DVDs since I bought it in the US.
3/9/2010 6:10 PM
gaastra
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Hasbro used matt tracker in gijoe so i guess they own the rights.  If your worried about dvd sales then do like wb and disney does and release a single disk "try-out" dvd for about $10.  If it's a hit then make the box-sets.  You can also use the uk only mask: the movie vhs as a try-out.

 

3/9/2010 8:13 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Other than Hasbro or Cookie Jar, who else could own these rights?  You'd think it wouldn't be very hard to find out.  If neither of them own it, you'd think they'd at least know who did.  Hasbro doesn't strike me as a company that doesn't know where all their properities' rights are.  They did release a Matt Trakker G.I. Joe figure, so they at least still have the toy rights.  I hope some day this series comes to DVD.  It is the last of the big dog 80s toyline cartoons not to see a release in the US.
3/10/2010 3:18 PM
Manic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I'd love to get my hands on M.A.S.K. and Dinosaucers for that matter.
3/10/2010 3:58 PM
TV_Fan
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RE: M.A.S.K.
This is a show I would like to see on DVD also.  I remember watching it and enjoying it when I was a kid.

Please bring "Starman" the 1986-87 tv series, Silver Spoons seasons 2 & beyond and Jennifer Slept Here to DVD.
3/10/2010 8:24 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Oh, it's not a matter of finding out who owns the rights.  We already know who it is.  But that doesn't make the deal an easy one.

Brian


----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 3/9/2010 8:13:50 PM

Other than Hasbro or Cookie Jar, who else could own these rights?  You'd think it wouldn't be very hard to find out.  If neither of them own it, you'd think they'd at least know who did.  Hasbro doesn't strike me as a company that doesn't know where all their properities' rights are.  They did release a Matt Trakker G.I. Joe figure, so they at least still have the toy rights.  I hope some day this series comes to DVD.  It is the last of the big dog 80s toyline cartoons not to see a release in the US.


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3/10/2010 9:01 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Is it possible for you to tell me what company has the rights to M.A.S.K.?  I wouldn't think it is a secret.  I would like to write or e-mail them about releasing it on DVD, but need a name.  thanks.

3/15/2010 10:29 AM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
The company is well aware that people want the DVDs released.  Writing them could do more damage than good, at this juncture.

Thanks!

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3/15/2010 1:44 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Alright.  I'm a business professional in my 30s.  I wouldn't write a "fanboy" type letter or mention any specific companies I'd want them to sell it to, but I guess I see your point.
3/18/2010 8:09 AM
savage
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Just throwing my hat into the ring for a release of M.A.S.K., too.  I have an import set from Australia, but it lacks a bit in image, and is in PAL format.  An R1 NTSC release with improved picture would be appreciated a lot!

All 35 GI Joe PSAs produced: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=906596BF9876D73A&sort_field=title
4/5/2010 12:49 PM
HulkieD
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Idle question, but is that company Disney?  I know that internationally, the show was licensed to Saban for distribution, which means the rights would have been folded into the mouse.

Probably a long shot, yes, but it's the only logical company I can think of besides Hasbro or Cookie Jar.
4/20/2010 3:11 PM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.
The new UK DVD sets look terrible.
4/20/2010 5:06 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Nope.  Not Disney.

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4/22/2010 10:27 PM
910dohead
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RE: M.A.S.K.
As far as what I know, MASK has been released on DVD in full here in the US in 2007. I did research and purchased the two 4 discs sets back when they were released. The sets were licensed from Kenner (pre-Hasbro?? When did Hasbro buy them out?) by a company called Vortex Pictures which was apparently a sister/subsidiary company to Gold Circle Films. What I read was Vortex was created solely for licensing and releasing older and more popular shows that had yet to be released on DVD (the same kind of company Shout Factory is). MASK was one series that made the cut and was released in full. Apparently sales were poor from the start (most likely due to poor distribution) and GCF disbanded VP. I wish I could quote a source or reference but I absolutely can't find anything on the company anymore. I either can't find the site that explained this or it has been removed from the web. The sets have been called bootlegs, but not from what I read. The sets are too good to be boots. If a better set never gets released, then I am completely content with what i've got.

Now, if Kenner/Hasbro no longer owns the rights to the series and Cookie Jar doesn't own it, my guess is that Astral Media Inc. now owns it. If I am right, I am willing to bet that there are either some weird legality issues preventing a US release (since its a Canadian owned company) or due to its affiliation with both ABC/Disney? If that's the case, then you have two companies trying to decide who gets to publish the show. Now to make matters worse, you involve other multiple companies (like Shout) requesting the license for the show and you get one big mess.

If you were the owner of the show and you realize that you're sitting on a possibly hot property, what do you do? Do you try to make as much money as you possibly can by either releasing it yourself or do you hold out on a deal, to see if it will drive up demand, and then offer licensing rights to the highest bidder? If that's the case, the more companies asking for it bumps the price up. If the price gets too high then what everyone is left with is rotten fruit. You can't make a profit off a $1 apple if a case of 12 cost you $50.

I could be totally going in the wrong direction with my guess. It does seem very likely though. Then again, there are a million other different reasons that are holding the show back from getting released.
4/23/2010 3:37 AM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Those are bootlegs.  M.A.S.K. has not had an official release in the US.
5/31/2010 9:28 AM
yojoeturner
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Man, I would love to see this released here. 
6/16/2010 4:38 PM
mystro88
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hopefully news of a new movie will revive MASK
10/19/2010 10:14 PM
sharkieQ
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RE: M.A.S.K.

I just bought M.A.S.K. complete series from Amazon UK for $22. Just use your region free DVD hdmi upconversion player and you are set! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQdgbs0IUDg

10/25/2010 3:45 PM
sharkieQ
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Update!!  Guess what showed up in the mail today? M.A.S.K boxed Set Season 1-2 and Dark Skies Season 1! 

Whooooooooaaa! Awesome!

Today is a great day!

11/3/2010 2:49 PM
Quack
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Do you know will MASK also work in a bluray player?  Or no?
11/3/2010 7:54 PM
RPC
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Yes like any DVD on the market ...
11/4/2010 7:26 AM
ericmylad
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I think what they're asking is if a region 2 dvd will play in a blu ray player.  The answer is "No" unless the Blu ray player is Region free.  If the actual disk was region free, then it would play.
11/4/2010 8:00 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: M.A.S.K.
You do know Shout Factory is putting out an Uber Deluxe Collector's Edition of Dark Skies, right? tvshowsondvd.com has been hyping it up for months...

----- Original Post -----
by sharkieQ at 10/25/2010 3:45:39 PM

Update!!  Guess what showed up in the mail today? M.A.S.K boxed Set Season 1-2 and Dark Skies Season 1! 

Whooooooooaaa! Awesome!

Today is a great day!



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12/20/2010 3:02 PM
mystro88
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Zaranyzerak will you be doing a Multimedia Chronicles update with MASK ? I for one would love to see it, I notice you give Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors alot of love on your YouTube channel but I think a MASK update on YouTube would be awesome! thanks
12/22/2010 10:43 AM
mystro88
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ATTN: Zaranyzerak
ATTN: Zaranyzerak please read prior inquiry
12/22/2010 11:09 AM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I wasn't planning to do one just yet, since it's not available in Region 1. There's really not much to say about the Region 2 release I have, it's a plain jane barebones releases of all 65 episodes of the original series, and all 10 episodes of the racing series. Likely what I would do is what I've done for some other Region 2 sets such as Dungeons and Dragons and Count Duckula - wait for the Region 1 release, then do a comparison video talking about the differences between the releases.


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12/24/2010 2:16 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Still waiting for a region 1 release, with the recent release of The Six Million Dollar Man Complete Series Collector's set, this is now my holy grail.  Until then I geuss I have to live with the surprisingly high-quality "set" i got from youtube. (talk about luck)

12/25/2010 12:57 AM
mike962
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RE: M.A.S.K.
What does MASK have to do with the SIx Million Dollar Man ?????? If anything Bionic Six (AKA The Six Million Dollar Family)cartoon should be released as a tie in to the SIx Million DOllar Man ....

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 12/24/2010 2:16:09 PM

Still waiting for a region 1 release, with the recent release of The Six Million Dollar Man Complete Series Collector's set, this is now my holy grail.  Until then I geuss I have to live with the surprisingly high-quality "set" i got from youtube. (talk about luck)

12/29/2010 6:54 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Who said anything about trying to tie the two shows together??  I said "with the recent release of The Six Million Dollar Man Complete Series Collector's set, this [meaning M.A.S.K.] is now my holy grail" [meaning it was previously The $6MDM].

----- Original Post -----
by mike962 at 12/25/2010 12:57:39 AM

What does MASK have to do with the SIx Million Dollar Man ?????? If anything Bionic Six (AKA The Six Million Dollar Family)cartoon should be released as a tie in to the SIx Million DOllar Man ....

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 12/24/2010 2:16:09 PM

Still waiting for a region 1 release, with the recent release of The Six Million Dollar Man Complete Series Collector's set, this is now my holy grail.  Until then I geuss I have to live with the surprisingly high-quality "set" i got from youtube. (talk about luck)

1/9/2011 12:54 PM
Quack
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RE: M.A.S.K.
How are the DVD's from the UK?  Are they worth getting?
4/11/2011 6:53 AM
Matt Trakker
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Will the new shout factory M.A.S.K release be digitally remastered? That would be awesome!

Thanks!
4/23/2011 7:14 PM
Hondo
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I've had the "unofficial" M.A.S.K. dvd's that are region 1 and now own the "official" region 2 set from the UK which looks a little grainy compared to the unofficial set. The UK set does list the episodes on the dvd menus and even shows the original LBS Communications in the ending credits (which I remember seeing on tv). But picture quality wise, I'd go with the "unofficial" region 1 set that I can play all my players, until the Shout Factory set comes out, which I plan to purchase.
4/27/2011 3:17 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Still analyzing the tapes, but they're looking nice, so far.

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4/27/2011 3:38 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

I will be getting this, but I still hope that Shout! eventually gets the back 10 episodes of the series.

Will the deluxe set be released to general retail on August 9th?

4/28/2011 5:11 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

TERRIFIC! Wondering if they rank above the Transformers and the G.I. JOE tapes in terms of preservation...


----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 4/27/2011 3:17:46 PM

Still analyzing the tapes, but they're looking nice, so far.

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4/28/2011 12:50 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hi Brian, Are the tapes NTSC? Also, will these episodes have the DIC "green vortex" logo trailer, followed by the LBS Communications logo trailer, right after the end credits of each episode? Thanks
4/28/2011 1:29 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I'll have to look into it.  The tapes are being reviewed now.  These were never transferred to Digibeta, so we're in the process of evaluating the original 1" tapes.  Surprisingly, they look pretty good.  I'm happy with what I've seen so far.  But I'll have to check re: specifics, in terms of logos, etc.

Brian

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4/28/2011 1:51 PM
Frightener22
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hey Brian,

I'm sorry if this has been covered but I'm playing catchup with most of the M.A.S.K. news.  I understand you guys have rights to Season 1 but there were 2 seasons.  Is Season 2 directly connected with Season 1 or was it something entirely different?  In addition, are there plans in the future to somehow release Season 2?  Thanks in advance and I apologize if this is an area that's been covered already.
4/28/2011 5:11 PM
Frightener22
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Sorry for the bump guys but I'm just really curious to understand more about the seasons of M.A.S.K.  Thanks for your time, Brian!
4/28/2011 6:08 PM
Kevin_Keene
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hey Brian, I have contact information for 3 of the voice actors from M.A.S.K. If you need the information I would be more than happy to share it with you. I already contacted them to tell them that you guys are working on the set and they are very excited.

"What can I say I'm hooked"
4/28/2011 7:21 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
The "second season," as it's so often thought of, is an entirely different show, from concept to execution to licensor.  It's a racing series, as opposed to the G.I. Joe-esque crime/terrorist-fighting unit of the preceding "season."  While not a comedy, I don't think it's PAINFULLY inaccurate to say that the second season of M.A.S.K. is to its first season as Laff-A-Lympics is to any of the Hanna-Barbera cartoons.  Same characters.  Entirely different premise and set of stakes.

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4/28/2011 7:30 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Although admittedly not as good, I still hope you guys get the rights to the second season down the road.  I won't feel like I have a truly complete region 1 M.A.S.K. collection until I get it. 

 

 Shout! Factory did pick up the inferior third season of Captain N at a later time since it was part of a different show and recently picked up DiC G.I. Joe.

4/28/2011 8:59 PM
Frightener22
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Excellent!  Thanks so much for clearing this up, Brian.  Now when M.A.S.K. debuts on DVD, I'll feel like I own the true series.  If the "second season" ever gets released by you guys, I'll pick it up as a completist but as you stated since its basically its own show it's nothing that I'll be missing.  Thanks again!

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 4/28/2011 7:21:39 PM

The "second season," as it's so often thought of, is an entirely different show, from concept to execution to licensor.  It's a racing series, as opposed to the G.I. Joe-esque crime/terrorist-fighting unit of the preceding "season."  While not a comedy, I don't think it's PAINFULLY inaccurate to say that the second season of M.A.S.K. is to its first season as Laff-A-Lympics is to any of the Hanna-Barbera cartoons.  Same characters.  Entirely different premise and set of stakes.

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4/29/2011 1:25 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.
The Racing Series is an alternate Earth. Totally different continuity. But I still love the new masks, uniforms, agents and vehicles, so I praise for a future release anyway.
4/30/2011 8:34 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Awesome news!  While the logos etc. would be great, the PSAs are a must have, but neither will prevent me from picking this up if not on the set.  The "second season" was ok, but not nearly as good as the first.  I think Brian's comparison is a pretty good one.

----- Original Post -----
by B Ward at 4/28/2011 1:29:57 PM

I'll have to look into it.  The tapes are being reviewed now.  These were never transferred to Digibeta, so we're in the process of evaluating the original 1" tapes.  Surprisingly, they look pretty good.  I'm happy with what I've seen so far.  But I'll have to check re: specifics, in terms of logos, etc.

Brian

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4/30/2011 3:10 PM
Zaranyzerak
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Brian - Just sent you an e-mail with the MASK commercial I mentioned attached.  Also sent along one with a Jem commercial.  Please don't hesitate to ask if I can be of further assistance.

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5/4/2011 5:50 PM
Steve Grubb
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hey if you click on the "video" tab up top, then click on "tv on dvd" on the left and then click on "Sort by Release date" you will find that the complete series is coming August 9th for 89.99.  Here is the info posted on the official link for MASK. 

"Illusion Is The Ultimate Weapon!

Led by multi-millionaire Matt Trakker, the Mobile Armored Strike Kommand—better known simply as M.A.S.K.—defends the world against Miles Mayhem and his nefarious international criminal organization known as VENOM, the very same group responsible for the death of Trakker’s teenage brother. With his own son, Scott, and secret strike force—including his friends, engineer Bruce Sato, courageous historian Hondo MacLean, mechanic Buddy Hawks, rocker Brad Turner, computer expert Alex Sector, stunt driver Dusty Hayes, and beautiful martial artist Gloria Baker—it’s up to Trakker, equipped with special power-granting masks and a garage of special militarized vehicles, to keep the world safe from Mayhem and the villainy of VENOM.

For the first time on DVD, all 65 episodes from the animated series that ran 1985-1986.

Tentative Bonus Features:
  • New Featurettes with Talent"
5/4/2011 8:20 PM
Frightener22
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Awesome find, Steve!  Brian is this the same date that other retailers such as Amazon will be receiving or is there date going to be sometime later?  Thanks in advance!

----- Original Post -----
by Steve Grubb at 5/4/2011 5:50:34 PM

Hey if you click on the "video" tab up top, then click on "tv on dvd" on the left and then click on "Sort by Release date" you will find that the complete series is coming August 9th for 89.99.  Here is the info posted on the official link for MASK. 

"Illusion Is The Ultimate Weapon!

Led by multi-millionaire Matt Trakker, the Mobile Armored Strike Kommand—better known simply as M.A.S.K.—defends the world against Miles Mayhem and his nefarious international criminal organization known as VENOM, the very same group responsible for the death of Trakker’s teenage brother. With his own son, Scott, and secret strike force—including his friends, engineer Bruce Sato, courageous historian Hondo MacLean, mechanic Buddy Hawks, rocker Brad Turner, computer expert Alex Sector, stunt driver Dusty Hayes, and beautiful martial artist Gloria Baker—it’s up to Trakker, equipped with special power-granting masks and a garage of special militarized vehicles, to keep the world safe from Mayhem and the villainy of VENOM.

For the first time on DVD, all 65 episodes from the animated series that ran 1985-1986.

Tentative Bonus Features:
  • New Featurettes with Talent"
5/5/2011 10:11 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Totally awesome!
5/5/2011 9:25 PM
jrusch
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I'm so excited for this release - huge thanks to everyone involved who made it happen!

"Together, we're gonna find our way" (to bring Silver Spoons seasons 2-5 to DVD)!
5/6/2011 2:58 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

By the way, VENOM never killed Matt's brother, not in the cartoon continuity --- that was the standalone continuity set by the comic book which accompained the early toys.

About the two seasons, The Racing Series is a parallel universe because:

1- It belongs to COOKIE JAR. Brian Ward confirmed so.
2- The origin/backstory is different: Mayhem was a co-partner of Matt Trakker and they created M.A.S.K. together. Then, Mayhem created V.E.N.O.M. to compete with M.A.S.K. An origin slightly similar to the comic book which accompained the early toys, not the original cartoon series where MASK and VENOM are totally unrelated.
3- MASK is a race team, not a secret, anti-terrorism organization supported by PNA (Duane Kennedy).
4- VENOM is a race team, not a terrorist squad with OBVIOUS criminal past and "social status".
5- MASK agents have no secret identities nor civilian jobs.
6- No mention of the "past" Season 1 adventures, no continuity-related cohesion with them anyway (read the points above).
7- New masks with silly powers, not designed to fight terrorist actions. Shroud, Eclipse, Totem.
8- Mayhem's... twin brother.
9- Brad Turner, Dusty Hayes, Clutch --- their lives and MASK functions are different.
10- 10 episodes, not even a full 65-episodes season. Screams alternate spin-off.
11- More importantly: in the Racing Series the VENOM helmets are as much powerful as the MASK ones, if not more (see Powerhouse/Samson and what it does). In the original series, the MASK helmets were much more powerful because charged via Trakker's ancient crystal, which generates an incredible and unlimited amount of (mysterious) energy.

No way. Alternate universe. Don't get me wrong, I love the Racing Series anyway.

 



----- Original Post -----
by Steve Grubb at 5/4/2011 5:50:34 PM

Hey if you click on the "video" tab up top, then click on "tv on dvd" on the left and then click on "Sort by Release date" you will find that the complete series is coming August 9th for 89.99.  Here is the info posted on the official link for MASK. 

"Illusion Is The Ultimate Weapon!

Led by multi-millionaire Matt Trakker, the Mobile Armored Strike Kommand—better known simply as M.A.S.K.—defends the world against Miles Mayhem and his nefarious international criminal organization known as VENOM, the very same group responsible for the death of Trakker’s teenage brother. With his own son, Scott, and secret strike force—including his friends, engineer Bruce Sato, courageous historian Hondo MacLean, mechanic Buddy Hawks, rocker Brad Turner, computer expert Alex Sector, stunt driver Dusty Hayes, and beautiful martial artist Gloria Baker—it’s up to Trakker, equipped with special power-granting masks and a garage of special militarized vehicles, to keep the world safe from Mayhem and the villainy of VENOM.

For the first time on DVD, all 65 episodes from the animated series that ran 1985-1986.

Tentative Bonus Features:
  • New Featurettes with Talent"
5/6/2011 7:42 AM
yenrab
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Any word on if the MASK PSAs will be included?

5/6/2011 3:12 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I'll be getting this release, but it is too bad it doesn't have all the
episodes on it like the Australian releases do (which has all 75
episodes spread between two volumes). You aren't going to sell me on
the idea that the two seasons are separate shows. The seasons might
have different rights holders in the US now, but they were both made by
DiC originally. The second season also immediately followed the first
season the next year and was not called by a different name. All the
episodes were shown together for years. M.A.S.K. isn't the first show
to have major changes from one season to the next (ie., Pound Puppies &
Ewoks to name a few).
5/6/2011 6:46 PM
mystro88
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I would love to see the PSA's included, i think they are educational and a good addition to the "extras"




----- Original Post -----
by yenrab at 5/6/2011 7:42:42 AM

Any word on if the MASK PSAs will be included?

5/7/2011 5:43 PM
Hondo
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RE: M.A.S.K.

To: N8 Storm

I feel exactly the same way. It's bittersweet to finally get an official region 1 set of M.A.S.K., but without the final ten episodes (Racing Series), it feels incomplete. Many thanks to Brian and Shout Factory for laboring to make this set available. The artwork and possible talent interviews (especially Scott Trakker aka Brennan Thicke, son of actor Alan Thicke and brother of singer Robin Thicke) makes this even more of an attractive set to own.   

5/8/2011 6:23 AM
Classic Toon Fan
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I have a question for mister Ward or any other Shout reps that might view this thread. I just saw on tvshowsondvd.com the box art for the M.A.S.K. release makes the statement that it is the complete series, but yet it lacks the entire second season of the show. Just curious how you can claim something is complete with such a glaring omission, & isn't that misrepresentation or borderline fraud? You lost a sale with one as I'll be keeping my Australian releases until the REAL complete series is released! But on a side note I'm all over the Takara Transformers complete collection when it gets released.
5/8/2011 7:24 AM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Well, a 65 episode release in the US is better than no release at all.   Hopefully, this set will have a lot of cool extras that haven't been seen on DVD before.  You never know.  They might get the rights to season 2 down the road and release it at a future date. 

5/8/2011 8:16 AM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Season 2 writer and story editor Jack Olesker commented on Vanquest's post in another forum.

 This is a post from he-man.org and is copied here with Jack Olesker's permission:

"Okay, so let me weigh in on this. To begin with, I'd like everyone to know that I neither take offense at criticism nor expect everyone to like my work. I bring my heart and soul to my work. Most times I succeed in creating quality entertainment -- one does not survive three decades in this businss junless you do create quality content most of the time. Sometimes, however, I fail. It's the nature of the creative process and I always try to learn where I went wrong. Having my mistakes pointed out to me, btw, is one of the things I love most about the board because it helps me to continue to improve my work. But I always bring my best efforts to my writing, producing and directing.

Next let me say that my work on M.A.S.K. was a long time ago in a galaxy... (Well, you get the point...) I've written over a thousand episodes of television and I can't count how many television series I've been involved with. This is not to sound boastful, but instead so everyone will hopefully understand it's impossible for me to remember every single element and nuance. Too, time does blur some of my recollections.

With that said...

1- It belongs to COOKIE JAR. Brian Ward confirmed so. I'm sure that's true, but it was originally produced by DIC. DIC was subsequently acquired by Cookie Jar, and folding in DIC's library was one of the parts of the deal. As an aside I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Andy Heyward -- DIC's president -- was one of my mentors. Andy taught me much about both the creative and business elements of the entertainment industry and I am grateful to him beyond measure.

2- The origin/backstory is different: Mayhem was a co-partner of Matt Trakker and they created M.A.S.K. together. Then, Mayhem created V.E.N.O.M. to compete with M.A.S.K. An origin slightly similar to the comic book which accompained the early toys, not the original cartoon series where MASK and VENOM are totally unrelated. That's quite true. I liked the comics backstory better and consciously chose to favor it. Chef's choice.


3- MASK is a race team, not a secret, anti-terrorism organization supported by PNA (Duane Kennedy). 4- VENOM is a race team, not a terrorist squad with OBVIOUS criminal past and "social status". Life is organic and ever-changing. It was some years between the two series and the characters moved on to other interests, like competitive racing. Moving to an alternative universe to do that, btw, is not necessary.

5- MASK agents have no secret identities nor civilian jobs. True again. And your point is?

6- No mention of the "past" Season 1 adventures, no continuity-related cohesion with them anyway (read the points above). So?

7- New masks with silly powers, not designed to fight terrorist actions. Shroud, Eclipse, Totem. That's a subjective opinion and you're entitled to it. You might want to think, however, about re-phrasing as "It's my opinion the new masks had silly powers" rather than making it a definitive statement...especially when a writer worked very hard to create those masks.

8- Mayhem's... twin brother. Kindly refresh my memory about this and what your point is.

9- Brad Turner, Dusty Hayes, Clutch --- their lives and MASK functions are different. And why is this a problem?

10- 10 episodes, not even a full 65-episodes season. Screams alternate spin-off. True -- and I stand corrected about having said it was thirteen. This was the toy company's call, so I don't know what their motivation was. But I don't see why it would mean it was an alternative spin-off.

11- More importantly: in the Racing Series the VENOM helmets are as much powerful as the MASK ones, if not more (see Powerhouse/Samson and what it does). In the original series, the MASK helmets were much more powerful because charged via Trakker's ancient crystal, which generates an incredible and unlimited amount of (mysterious) energy. A lot of time has passed between the two seasons, so you fill in the blanks -- the crystal was stolen, its power ebbed, etc. Does everyhting always need to be spelled out?

I will give you a definitive answer however -- and I can give it because it's not a opinion but rather my intent as the writer and story editor of that season: I never intended the season to be in an alternative universe. Rather, I saw it as picking up the story some years later, with all the characters having new interests and, in some cases, new interrelationships. Time marches on and people change. That's called 'growth' and I don't think there's anything wrong with that."

5/8/2011 1:00 PM
Jon T
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Hands down, the best "justification" for season two's wildly different outlook I've ever seen; then again, this does come from a writer who openly solicited for ideas from fans(!?!) in order to develop a new Power Rangers series!

3- MASK is a race team, not a secret, anti-terrorism organization supported by PNA (Duane Kennedy). 4- VENOM is a race team, not a terrorist squad with OBVIOUS criminal past and "social status". Life is organic and ever-changing. It was some years between the two series and the characters moved on to other interests, like competitive racing. Moving to an alternative universe to do that, btw, is not necessary.
5/8/2011 7:03 PM
StarTrooper
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RE: M.A.S.K.

I don't get why certain fans are complaining that the second series isn't included. You are getting all 65 episodes of the first series, in a single set. If the first series sells well enough and enough people ask, I'm sure Shout will look into trying to release the second series.

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 5/8/2011 7:24:03 AM

Well, a 65 episode release in the US is better than no release at all.   Hopefully, this set will have a lot of cool extras that haven't been seen on DVD before.  You never know.  They might get the rights to season 2 down the road and release it at a future date. 

5/9/2011 6:16 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

The point is, the classic series created a coherent universe run by coherent logic. Yeah, they wanted to sell toys, but in the end they sold toys using a secret super-organization aimed to stop VENOM and every calamity in the world. Wow. MASK used secret identites for a reason and nobody in the world was supposed to be able to connect Trakker to MASK for a reason --- see Batman and any other DC Comics superhero! And most importantly, MASK used the greatest and most incredible & outstanding technology in the world ("GULLIVER" could miniaturize things!) and IMHO it's very surreal a super-organization equipped with such a gorgeous technology turns into a race team just because "life goes on". LOL. You can save the world, and the guys just did that in the "First Season", but now they want... to compete on strange races with strange trophies to win ???
I'm not bashing the Racing Series, which I like a lot. Don't get me wrong. I'm just hypothizing in the universe where - IMHO - the Racing Series is set, those races have an absolute social/economical value and MASK must adhere to that value in order to save the world.

As a HUGE fan of the Classic Series ("Season 1"), and an estimator of the Racing Series ("Season 2"), I found very useful to think they exist in two separate realities and have fun with both, despite I'm a HUGE fan of the one and only Classic Series.

By the way, here we go, two very interesting Season 1 episodes that could clear up the fact in Universe 1 Venom and MASK have no common origin:

39 "Green Nightmare" November 21, 1985 (1985-11-21)
VENOM agent Vanessa Warfield, sabotages Matt Trakker's private jet which crashes in the jungles of New Guinea. The rest of the MASK team goes to rescue them.
40 "Eyes of the Skull" November 22, 1985 (1985-11-22)
VENOM leader, Miles Mayhem, uses an ancient "crystal skull" which allows x-ray vision to see through Matt Trakker's mask and discover his identity. Mayhem then kidnaps Scott Trakker for ransom.

IF Miles Mayhem co-worked with Trakker to create MASK in the very beginning of the "project", as long as MASK would have appeared in the bigger scheme of the things --- fighting VENOM --- Miles should have abducted Scott Trakker. No need for the crystal skull to discover who was the man behind MASK !!!

5/9/2011 2:42 PM
trust the fungus
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RE: M.A.S.K.


----- Original Post -----
by StarTrooper at 5/8/2011 7:03:53 PM

I don't get why certain fans are complaining that the second series isn't included. You are getting all 65 episodes of the first series, in a single set. If the first series sells well enough and enough people ask, I'm sure Shout will look into trying to release the second series.

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 5/8/2011 7:24:03 AM

Well, a 65 episode release in the US is better than no release at all.   Hopefully, this set will have a lot of cool extras that haven't been seen on DVD before.  You never know.  They might get the rights to season 2 down the road and release it at a future date. 

That is true. shout got the rights to the super mario world cartoon due to good sales of the previous mario shows. Shout is a fan friendly company so i'm sure the'll at least try to finish mask.
5/10/2011 7:10 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
What I really want to know is how are the discs packaged in the complete set?  Are they well protected? Any cool disc art like the G.I. Joe footlocker set?  Personally, I'm not a big fan of the Transformers "Matrix" outer packaging.  I did, however, receive my G.I. Joe footlocker in excellent condition as opposed to some other people.  I had no trouble removing the G.I. Joe discs from the packaging either.  On another note, what kind of iron-on is it?  Is it a T-shirt transfer or perhaps a embroidered patch?  My hope would be the first one, depending on the size of it.
5/14/2011 6:05 PM
Hondo
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RE: M.A.S.K.

As a kid, I wasn't a fan of the blatant changes in season two of M.A.S.K., but have really come to appreciate it. In hindsight, It doesn't seem way off that MASK and Venom would've retired into racing , retaining a friendly competative nature with Venom finally giving up crime. With everyone still be able to enjoy their powerful vehicles and masks. I don't like how it won't be included in the Shout Factory set (which is being billed as the Complete Series), but figure they would have included it if they could. Maybe calling the set Season One instead of the Complete Series would lessen the sting. Season Two aka the Racing Series was not drastic enough to have a different theme song or opening, therefore It's my opinion that those few final episodes be included in any Complete M.A.S.K.dvd set. It isn't like how Beast Wars is to Transformers. Buying a separate set for episodes I feel should be included in the Complete Series box only seems to aggrivate me, but on the flip side, the UK Complete set is made up of two separate sets that you can buy separate or together with a cardboard sleeve that houses the two cases. So it really isn't that different. It's just hard for us fans to accept things can't always be perfect. Again, I appreciate all the laboring that Shout and Brian has done to get the best possible M.A.S.K. product out that's in their power. They don't have to care, but I'm glad they really seem to. 

5/28/2011 1:21 PM
Hondo
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RE: M.A.S.K.

To Brian:

If it's not too late, please consider releasing the M.A.S.K. Complete Series in a big sturdy plastic case (with inner trays) instead of slim cases held together only by a fragile paper/cardboard sleeve. Thanks.

6/7/2011 1:06 PM
gos
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Brian, if the first series of MASK sells well, is there a chance that Shout may consider a release of the Racing Series in 2012? It is realized that a different party owns the rights to the Racing Series.
6/7/2011 2:58 PM
Manic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Just noticed the M.A.S.K. collection on Amazon.

PRE-ORDERED!
6/8/2011 11:15 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.

I'm starving for information...any news on disc art, etc.??

6/9/2011 3:37 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
One of the people working on the set said that the PSAs are intact and that they interviewed a couple of the writers.
6/13/2011 3:20 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.
UHHHH any news about the picture quality?
6/15/2011 12:31 PM
ericnucera0913
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RE: M.A.S.K.

YES!!! 10 Episodes of The Racing Series of M.A.S.K. By 2012 By Shout!

6/15/2011 6:54 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.

extras for the complete series set:

Unmasking M.A.S.K.: retrospective interview with show writers on this hit animated series

 Saturday Morning Krusaders: entertaining look back with loyal fans

http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257427&sid=19B7C9A25EC14D308E0FA7965925641A#axzz1PP4HEO77

 

6/16/2011 4:23 AM
Luke2432
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RE: M.A.S.K.
What's the iron-on exclusively from ShoutFactory.com?
6/16/2011 9:11 PM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Awesome!

----- Original Post -----
by N8 Storm at 6/15/2011 6:54:39 PM

extras for the complete series set:

Unmasking M.A.S.K.: retrospective interview with show writers on this hit animated series

 Saturday Morning Krusaders: entertaining look back with loyal fans

http://www.shoutfactorystore.com/prod.aspx?pfid=5257427&sid=19B7C9A25EC14D308E0FA7965925641A#axzz1PP4HEO77

 

6/20/2011 2:19 PM
yenrab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
No PSAs? Just saw the press release on tvshowsondvd. No PSAs = FAIL
6/20/2011 3:51 PM
N8 Storm
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I think the M.A.S.K. PSAs are still connected to the end of the episodes (like Masters of the Universe).
6/21/2011 2:15 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Where is Brian Ward? We don't know anything at this point, if the video quality is nice or bad... it looks like it's a bit overlooked release... hopefully I'm wrong!
6/22/2011 6:44 AM
sdrawkcab
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RE: M.A.S.K.
If you look at Brian's posts from 4/27 & 4/28 you'll get somewhat of an answer on the video quality. 


----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 6/21/2011 2:15:20 AM

Where is Brian Ward? We don't know anything at this point, if the video quality is nice or bad... it looks like it's a bit overlooked release... hopefully I'm wrong!
6/23/2011 2:16 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Sigh...

Sorry for the lack of communication.  Have I mentioned it's not actually my job to be here?  Just checking.

'kay...

So the video quality is pretty good, considering it's a show from 1985 and the source material are the original broadcast masters, with the exception of two episodes, which we received from a company in the U.K.

The PSAs are not listed as bonus features, because they're attached to the episodes, as originally aired.

There are two fantastic bonus featurettes, produced by John Champion of DVD Geeks.  The one on the fans is particularly entertaining.  Digging it.

Brian

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6/25/2011 4:28 PM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Hey Brian! Thank you so much for the infos. It wasn't my intention to hurt you in any way :) Just wondering...

2 episodes from... the UK company releasing the MASK DVD set (Lace)? Hopefully not, that set is heavily plagued by serious video transfer problems.

 

6/27/2011 4:37 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
No, no... The masters were obtained from an old UK broadcaster. :)

Brian

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6/28/2011 10:05 AM
johnQPublic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Mask is not THE COMPELTE SERIES.  Shout is lying!  LIARS!
6/28/2011 2:16 PM
Omega Supreme
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Go away
6/28/2011 2:25 PM
zaxxar
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RE: M.A.S.K.
No, johnQPublic is right. It's dishonest to pass it off as the complete series, especially when this company IS AWARE that it's not.

----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 6/28/2011 2:16:51 PM

Go away
6/28/2011 3:15 PM
Luke2432
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Shout Factory did the same thing with Captain N The Game Master.

6/28/2011 3:34 PM
johnQPublic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
This company is run very poorly.  They are trying to deceive their fans and customers.  I have been following this site for some time but have never posted until a few days ago.  I am just fed up wth Shout Factry's lies.  I am not purchasing MASK  The Incomplete Series.  I am so fed up with this company and their constantly dashing fans hopes.  I was so so eager to finally buy Werewolf The Compelte series and look what happenned.  Don't they check things like musi before they start working on a set?  Also my Blossom set is stuck with only the first two seasons.  Disgraceful company.
6/28/2011 3:56 PM
zaxxar
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RE: M.A.S.K.
A-Freaking-Men.

----- Original Post -----
by johnQPublic at 6/28/2011 3:34:19 PM

This company is run very poorly.  They are trying to deceive their fans and customers.  I have been following this site for some time but have never posted until a few days ago.  I am just fed up wth Shout Factry's lies.  I am not purchasing MASK  The Incomplete Series.  I am so fed up with this company and their constantly dashing fans hopes.  I was so so eager to finally buy Werewolf The Compelte series and look what happenned.  Don't they check things like musi before they start working on a set?  Also my Blossom set is stuck with only the first two seasons.  Disgraceful company.
6/28/2011 5:43 PM
trust the fungus
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Exactly. Who says shout won't release the rest of MASK down the road like they did with the third season of Captain N?

----- Original Post -----
by Luke2432 at 6/28/2011 3:15:54 PM

Shout Factory did the same thing with Captain N The Game Master.

6/28/2011 5:50 PM
Elric
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RE: M.A.S.K.
What confuses me is this "Saturday Morning Krusaders" extra. Didn't the show run on weekdays?

Elric (not Eric)


----- Original Post -----
by zaxxar at 6/28/2011 2:25:32 PM

No, johnQPublic is right. It's dishonest to pass it off as the complete series, especially when this company IS AWARE that it's not.

----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 6/28/2011 2:16:51 PM

Go away
6/29/2011 1:59 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

You're just delusional trolls. THE RACING SERIES is a spin-off set in an "alternate" continuity/universe, so yes, the first 65 episodes are the COMPLETE SERIES.



----- Original Post -----
by zaxxar at 6/28/2011 2:25:32 PM

No, johnQPublic is right. It's dishonest to pass it off as the complete series, especially when this company IS AWARE that it's not.

----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 6/28/2011 2:16:51 PM

Go away
6/29/2011 5:08 AM
johnQPublic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I am not a delusional troll!!  TVshowsondvd first reported it was the complete series then they had to recant.  Even they consider both seasons the complete series.  If it had the same name its antoher season not a spinoff.

----- Original Post -----
by Vanquest at 6/29/2011 1:59:21 AM

You're just delusional trolls. THE RACING SERIES is a spin-off set in an "alternate" continuity/universe, so yes, the first 65 episodes are the COMPLETE SERIES.



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by zaxxar at 6/28/2011 2:25:32 PM

No, johnQPublic is right. It's dishonest to pass it off as the complete series, especially when this company IS AWARE that it's not.

----- Original Post -----
by Omega Supreme at 6/28/2011 2:16:51 PM

Go away
6/29/2011 5:44 AM
Smallbite
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RE: M.A.S.K.
I got into a similar argument on a different forum.  In regards to Tmnt 2003 series.  They claimed that the fast forward season was not the same show.

However, this is just a goofy way of thinking.   Just because the creators decide to take a show in a different direction {in other seasons}, this does not make it a new show.   It is most likely done in an attempt to boost ratings.

The sad thing is when they do that they usually loose more fans and ratings. 
6/29/2011 7:16 AM
zaxxar
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RE: M.A.S.K.
johnQPublic wins this thread.
7/1/2011 4:38 AM
Vanquest
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RE: M.A.S.K.

No you're just flamers and trolls. John Q and Zakk Whatever.

It IS the complete series featuring Universe 1. The Racing Series was an alternate universe, something different than a "new direction".

Go away.

7/1/2011 6:43 AM
johnQPublic
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Many series change plotline and even characters in subsequent seasons.  That doens't make them seperate shows.  Shout factory is trying to claim the second season is a seperate show when it isnt.  I'm not a flamer or troll.  I'm just a fan speakign the truth and calling a spade a spade.  Shout factory is deceiving the public.  They've done it many many times before.
7/1/2011 2:35 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.
JohnQPublic, what you don't seem to realize is that you actually know nothing about business affairs.  The contracts and memos from 1984 clearly state that DiC Entertainment was commissioned to produce one season of M.A.S.K., consisting of 65 weekday episodes to be aired in the latter half of 1985.  The show was officially ended and the relationship was terminated at the end of those 65 episodes.

Following that, DiC acquired permission to continue animating episodes based on the toy franchise, but they became the sole producers and retained the rights to this new series, but had to create a separate premise, which would separate it from its predecessor.  This new series lasted a mere 10 episodes and aired on Saturday mornings.

Fremantle owns the original 65-episode series.  DiC--now Cookie Jar--doesn't even still own the domestic rights to the second series, which isn't just a bunch of new characters and few different elements.  This is CLEARLY a different series.  And there's nothing in the world that will convince me otherwise.  It's not even remotely close to the original incarnation.  The head honchos at DiC weren't stupid.  They maintained the title of a popular franchise to sell syndication, exactly like they did with G.I. JoeG.I. Joe, as produced by DiC, is NOT the "second part" to Sunbow's series.  Much like Ronald Moore's revamped Battlestar Galactica is NOT part of the same series as the original, despite sharing the same title.  The revamped The Bionic Woman is NOT a part of the original series.  The updated The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits are not considered later seasons of their originals, either.  So what's your problem with this one?  The mere fact that it was picked up right after the original series?  Doesn't mean anything.  They were contractually obligated to change the series, but were not obligated to change the title.  Andy Heyward's not a stupid businessman.  In 1986, the name M.A.S.K. sold a show into syndication--and not even as part of a weekday line-up, but as a Saturday morning cartoon.  Seems like a swell reason to keep the name the same to me.  Novel.

Our box clearly reads, "The Complete Original Series."  Original.  Not to be confused with "the Racing Series," which isn't even owned by the same company.  Or, we could go with a completely different idea.  Let's just not put out ANY of the episodes, as to not tick off ill-informed fans, such as yourself and--oh, yes...once again, Zaxxar, who likes to jump on us during every topic, but still comes back everyday.  After all, none is better than something; right?

Brian

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7/1/2011 2:50 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.
WHOA WHOA WHOA BRAIN! You are saying that the new Battleship Galacatimus was not the same as the old Battleship Galacatimus?????? IT TOTALLY WAS. From everything i heard Dirk Benedict got plastic surgery to become a young woman and assumed the role of Starbuch again. Next thing you are going to tell me is that edward james Olmos was not playing the same role in Galactimus as he was in Blade Runner! HE SAY YOU BRADE RUNNER! Anyhoo, give everyone on this thread what we all want BRAIN: the last 8 epsiodes of MASK, starring Cher aka the Speeding Series. WE NEED OUR CRUMMY OLD CARTOONS! YOU KNOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHTS TO DO IT YOU DISSHONEST, MONEYHUNGRY GOLBIN!

"On the 6th day the Lord created BRAIN WARD, and on the 7th he rested, cause making BRAIN WARD was exhausting"
7/1/2011 5:58 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Look at this twitter account-------

David Ponce Jones

worker at the factory of shout. stalker of brain ward
 
-------who could that be?
 
7/5/2011 12:05 PM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Ha. I can say that David is NOT Tummybot, though that's a pretty decent bit of detective work. TB's posts have become a bit of a fave amongst a couple people at Shout, hence David's use of the "Brain Ward" tag.  It's more of an homage than anything else.  Would totally love to have TB on staff, though!  That would be a treat.  And maybe a little bit weird.

Brian

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7/5/2011 3:04 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Oh Lord. That is my Twitter account. Brian is correct, tummybot is a lot of people's favorite troll, but he is not me. I have taken to calling him "Brain" though. Everyone should.
7/5/2011 5:59 PM
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RE: M.A.S.K.

Tummybot has to be somebody that either works with Brian or at least knows him.  Who created the REALBrainWard who you follow on twitter?  I remember Brian saying last year on twitter when REALBrainWard first started to post that he had to be somebody he knew.  RealBrainWard's style is very similar to Tummybot's.  Tummybot even created a thread for RealBrainWard so it has to be him.

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7/6/2011 10:41 AM
B Ward
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RE: M.A.S.K.
For starters, I don't follow "REALBrainWard" on Twitter.  Never have.  Though, I certainly thought it was funny at the time.  And I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were Tummybot.

Secondly, TB is not a Shout! Factory employee.

Thirdly, I'm not all that interested in convincing folks.  So that's the last I'll say about it.

This thread is for M.A.S.K., so let's stick to the topic.

Brian

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7/6/2011 2:45 PM
Shipwreck
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RE: M.A.S.K.

I never said you followed him.  David does.  Happy days soon for most episodes of M.A.S.K. being put out.

7/7/2011 8:32 AM
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Brian, would you be able to answer any of these questions?

----- Original Post -----
by sdrawkcab at 5/10/2011 7:10:56 AM

What I really want to know is how are the discs packaged in the complete set?  Are they well protected? Any cool disc art like the G.I. Joe footlocker set?  Personally, I'm not a big fan of the Transformers "Matrix" outer packaging.  I did, however, receive my G.I. Joe footlocker in excellent condition as opposed to some other people.  I had no trouble removing the G.I. Joe discs from the packaging either.  On another note, what kind of iron-on is it?  Is it a T-shirt transfer or perhaps a embroidered patch?  My hope would be the first one, depending on the size of it.
7/12/2011 2:14 PM
Tummybot5000
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RE: M.A.S.K.
Nice try! I woudlnt work at shoutfactory if they paid me in BRAINBABIES! My love turned hate of BRAIN ward would cause a full body quiver every day and that would not be kind. I will be at comic-con if anyone wants to meet me. And as i have said before, i am a lady!

"On the 6th day the Lord created BRAIN WARD, and on the 7th he rested, cause making BRAIN WARD was exhausting"
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