| 9/15/2009 2:13 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | The Challenge of the Gobots | | I am assuming Hasbro has the rights to this series. With Shout's deal with Hasbro is it possible that Hasbro will allow this series to come to DVD? |
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| 9/15/2009 6:26 PM |
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Zaranyzerak
Member since: 5/28/2008 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | This was a Hanna-Barbera cartoon, so chances are it's actually Warner who holds the rights to the cartoon, whereas Hasbro (who bought Tonka, the makers of the Gobots toys, in 1991) would have final say on whether or not a DVD set is released. So it would likely need to be cleared with both Warner and Hasbro, and that said Warner doesn't seem to like licensing out their stuff to third party companies.
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| 9/16/2009 3:41 PM |
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Sean
Member since: 5/21/2008 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Wouldn't really mind getting GOBOTS: BATTLE OF THE ROCK-LORDS on DVD. |
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| 9/16/2009 4:21 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | GoBots is owned by Hasbro. And, because of their many Transformers successes over the past few years, obviously, they have no desire to release it on DVD at this time.
Brian
"Know Thyself"
--Thales |
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| 9/16/2009 7:24 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | That's what I was afraid of. It's a shame too because it's such a good cartoon. Thanks for the reply Brian. I will hold out hope you guys can convince them to release it.
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by B Ward at 9/16/2009 4:21:20 PM
GoBots is owned by Hasbro. And, because of their many Transformers successes over the past few years, obviously, they have no desire to release it on DVD at this time.
Brian
"Know Thyself" --Thales |
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| 10/1/2009 4:54 PM |
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Vicserr
Member since: 6/19/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | That sucks, I wouldn't mind having Challenge of the GoBots on DVD... or Sky Commanders, Ring Raiders, M.A.S.K., Vortek, Visionaries, Inhumanoids, Robotix and the like.
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by B Ward at 9/16/2009 4:21:20 PM
GoBots is owned by Hasbro. And, because of their many Transformers successes over the past few years, obviously, they have no desire to release it on DVD at this time.
Brian
"Know Thyself" --Thales |
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| 5/25/2010 2:08 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | The HDNet Movie channel on channel 561 on DirecTV is showing the GoBots: The Battle of the Rock Lords in HD tomorrow. Although I get DirecTV, I unfortunately don't get the package that includes that channel. So it looks like Hasbro is letting the GoBots see the light of day at least some. |
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| 5/25/2010 3:19 PM |
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sdrawkcab
Member since: 6/10/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | I argee that M.A.S.K. is very high on my want list. GoBots however, in my opinion, was a second rate Transformers rip-off with third rate toys.
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by Vicserr at 10/1/2009 4:54:19 PM
That sucks, I wouldn't mind having Challenge of the GoBots on DVD... or Sky Commanders, Ring Raiders, M.A.S.K., Vortek, Visionaries, Inhumanoids, Robotix and the like.
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by B Ward at 9/16/2009 4:21:20 PM
GoBots is owned by Hasbro. And, because of their many Transformers successes over the past few years, obviously, they have no desire to release it on DVD at this time.
Brian
"Know Thyself" --Thales
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| 5/25/2010 3:29 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | GoBots came out around the same time as Transformers. The GoBots toyline actually beat Transformers to the US by a few months. I like Transformers better, but I think the GoBots has its own merits.
Here are all the GoBots play times on HDNet Movies for the month:
http://www.hdnetmovies.com/movies_schedule_by_title.html#M2018 |
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| 5/26/2010 10:39 AM |
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gaastra
Member since: 4/14/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | The american show is not on dvd but you can get the japan gobots show machine robo. It had three dvds released! |
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| 2/2/2011 6:13 PM |
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gaastra
Member since: 4/14/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Looks like warner archieve is releasing gobots!
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| 2/2/2011 9:16 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Oh yeah! |
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| 2/3/2011 3:25 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | According to the tvshowsondvd website the series was owned by Warner Bros all this time after all, almost everyone including Mr.Ward thought Hasbro owned this. Some times finding out who owns the rights to cartoons/shows is harder then getting your teeth pulled out. Well this is the first time WB MOD website is tackling a series with this type of episode count (over 60 shows) that could be good news for other series ie. The Snorks. I am really glad Warner is releasing so many shows at this rate, they must be selling well and the financial obligation is greatly reduced for them. |
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| 2/3/2011 4:33 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My cartoon wish list is now complete. |
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| 2/4/2011 12:22 AM |
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mike962
Member since: 6/20/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Well WB has the big advantage that it OWNS all those shows so they don't have to pay for any licenses |
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| 2/4/2011 4:05 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | I can still hear the theme song playing on my old tv..
Follow me on twitter @ Cartoons1980s |
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| 2/8/2011 4:01 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Warner told me on my twitter page Gobots will be broken up on dvd, meaning different volumes to get the whole series out, still stoked to see it being released though.
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| 2/8/2011 5:36 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Interesting, as Hasbro even believes they own this property. It's one we've discussed many times.
Brian
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| 2/8/2011 5:46 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Hasbro is probably just like Mattel is with Filmation He-Man & the Masters of the Universe. They own the rights to the toyline and any future cartoons, but not the original cartoon.
I'd guess 3 volumes with 4 discs per set. |
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| 2/9/2011 3:02 AM |
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DavidLambert
Member since: 3/21/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Trust me when I say that this thought has occurred to me, too. Even as I wrote up the news passing along WAC's assertion that they will be releasing GoBots, I was thinking "hhmmmm...wonder what Hasbro's gonna say about that!"
Well, we'll see.
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by B Ward at 2/8/2011 5:36:09 PM
Interesting, as Hasbro even believes they own this property. It's one we've discussed many times.
Brian
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| 2/9/2011 2:42 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | I'd guess Warner Brothers had their lawyers look into it before they said anything as I know their lawyers were checking over the Saturday Supercade rights to see which segments they owned for sure and which ones they didn't. I'd be majorly depressed if GoBots didn't come out. I enjoy the cartoon more than any non-G1 Transformers. I need more 80s cartoons on DVD. |
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| 2/9/2011 2:46 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | I dunno... WB also claimed to own Captain Planet, even going so far as to tell people in a forum that they were strongly considering releasing it. WB has no ownership of the show. We licensed the series from its sister channel, Cartoon Network.
Brian
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| 2/9/2011 4:56 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Well with Captain Planet, they said they were looking into it, wheras GoBots they are saying it will be released soon. I'd guess it as a Mattel/Filmation He-Man thing. I hope you guys aren't looking into blocking the release or anything like that. I do not think Taka/Wars fans and GoBots fans have much of the same fanbase and what little they do share are people that are going to buy it all anyways. |
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| 2/10/2011 8:21 AM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Yeah Warner Archive has already stated on more then one occasion about releasing this show now and responding to me on twitter about it being broken up in volumes when it does come out. Since Hasbro has no interest in releasing this show I don't know why they would try to block it, though people would say if they own the rights to it then they would and could do it but I am thinking Warner checked on this. Just look at how Warner owns almost all the Hanna Barbara stuff but they don't own things like Gilligan's Planet, Fonz and the gang etc, those are Paramount/CBS owned.
I wouldn't want to see anyone blocking any cartoons from the 70s,80s,90s, coming out, Smore Ent. tried to release the whole Get-a-long gang cartoon series and American Greetings would never give the green light. I think Hasbro is very happy with Transformers being out and they have many other shows to release so I don't think they have to worry about Go-Bots, especially since it's just a MOD release and those don't go wide like official releases in stores.
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| 2/10/2011 10:33 AM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Business is business, gang. No corporate entity has the same kind of love for their product as their fans. To them, it's money. Case in point, the death of Optimus Prime. As stated on several occasions, they simply thought they were discontinuing one line in favor of another. They didn't realize the impact that would have on their younger fans.
Just because Hasbro's pleased with their Transformers franchise, doesn't mean they don't mind the release of GoBots. Having seen the list of what they do and don't own, I can say that Hasbro fully believes they own the GoBots animated series. Now, does this mean Warner couldn't release it, if they made some kind of deal? Absolutely not. But Hasbro would certainly want a piece of those profits. It is, after all, their property. So I couldn't see WB getting away with simply releasing it. And why would WB make a deal, just to release something via MOD??
To me, it seems more likely that Warner Bros. has a collection of masters, much like DiC Entertainment had a collection of masters when it came to Get-A-Long Gang. We licensed that series from DiC, along with several others, and sublicensed it S'more. It was then that the true OWNERS of the property came out. And, yes, it was stopped.
I'm not saying that Hasbro's going to try to stop Warner Bros. But I am saying that Hasbro is pretty convinced that they own the animated series. And based on their paperwork, there's a pretty compelling argument there. But that's for someone else to fight.
Brian
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| 2/10/2011 11:26 AM |
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Yeah_OK
Member since: 7/15/2010 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Another company also claimed to own The Man From Uncle but ultimately WB proved they own it. I wonder if this is a similar case. |
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| 2/10/2011 2:26 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Well, from my conversations with Warner, I think they are pretty convinced they do own the rights to the cartoon. It is not uncommon for a toyline company to not have ownership over all of the cartoons based off their properties. My fear is that Warner does own the rights, but if Hasbro tries to make a big fuss, they'll just drop the idea of releasing GoBots rather than screw around with any litigation involved just to release a MOD set even though they feel they are the rightful owners.
I really hope Hasbro has no rights to the show since they probably just want the show dead and buried rather than ever releasing it through anybody which would be a shame. |
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| 2/10/2011 3:13 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Since Shout! Factory has a working relationship with both Warner and Hasbro I am not sure Brian would comment on this further but the word has already been put out by Warner Archive themselves that Gobots will be released so I thought Brian might already know if Hasbro would try and challenge this. If Warner can state for sure THEY own this property for dvd release and maybe Hasbro owns the tv broadcast rights maybe is a question to pose to them I think. When talking on rights some times it is very confusing who owns what and whom can release it in what form. Would you mind if someone posed just that question to Warner Archive if they truly own the series for dvd or not Brian?
In regards to Captain Planet I thought it was originaly a Turner broadcast property and since you said you had to license it from Cartoon Network I thought they are under the Time Warner(Turner) umbrella any way.
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| 2/10/2011 3:35 PM |
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B Ward
Member since: 1/12/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | I wouldn't raise a fuss one way or the other. If WB's releasing it, good. I've not said anything to Hasbro. If Hasbro challenges it at some point, they do. But if they never know or care or acknowledge they own it, why should folks miss out on their favorite shows? And where is it said that WB has to prove their ownership of anything to us fans?
As for Captain Planet, the parent company cannot order one of its subsidiaries to do something like this. Nor can one company within the umbrella simply declare that they're going to release something, based on the fact that they're both owned by the same company. While under an umbrella, each corporate entity acts independently of the others and neither has jurisdiction.
For instance, we've been doing a lot of work on titles from ABC Family. This isn't because Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment decided they didn't want to anymore. It's because ABC Family simply began coming to us, with new shows and with subsequent seasons of older shows. WDSHE does a bang-up job. But they didn't automatically get first right of refusal to the third season of Greek just because ABC Family's owned by Disney. They had to win their deals, just like we would, because the companies, though owned by the same parent, work independently. Warner Bros. never owned any stake in Captain Planet and never turned down releasing it. Cartoon Network came to us and asked about our interest. Obviously, we were quite interested. And I'll be happy to see it released, as I've had a lot of fun producing it.
As far as GoBots are concerned, I'd say let it go without starting any kind of fuss.
Brian
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| 2/10/2011 4:24 PM |
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Zaranyzerak
Member since: 5/28/2008 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | SuperDave - Honestly, who cares? It's nothing to do with us either way. Warner's not one to put stuff out if they haven't looked into it thoroughly first to make sure they CAN in the first place. We're getting Gobots on DVD. Be happy!
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| 2/11/2011 3:16 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | No problem here guys. Just wanted to know if y'all thought it might be a good idea to get that matter better sorted out by going to the sources but I guess it's better to just let it play out and see what happens. All I know when Warner Archive does release The Gobots on MOD you better lock in your set early just in case something does happen later and they get pulled from ever releasing it again. That way the price would skyrocket on what got put out in that instance.
I just didn't want it to be like looking forward to a show coming out such as mentioned before The Get-a-long-gang and then all of a sudden it gets pulled because someone else ended up really owning it. I did hear Mill Creek would be releasing some form of Get-a-long-gang episodes collection this year, any idea why American Greetings had a change of heart now Brian that they would allow Mill Creek to put it out?
Thanks for explaining the umbrella of companies issues, rights Brian, it was an interesting read. Being on the inside as yourself it is good to know how things work in the industry which at times gives the fan a better understanding what sets the wheels in motion. I know some times though even the companies themselves don't clearly know what they own or don't own when the licenses expire, move, are sold elsewhere, it can be a jumbled mess at times and takes some serious researching on their part for certain properties. Like you said and others, the fans just want to own a piece of their childhood, or for others just own a show they'll enjoy watching for the first time or again. Though Gobots were no Transformers I enjoyed it and I do hope it sees the light of the dvd burn upon release on MOD! Pardon the pun! ;) Thanks for the reply! 
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| 4/4/2011 2:05 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | As I said before this series is going to be broken up upon release. The first season was only 5 episodes long and then was it 60 more. Well how would you like to see it released? 1st season 5 shows on a single disc then season 2 part 1 and season 2 part 2? Or see it get released maybe 15 shows at a time? Let me know your opinions.
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| 4/4/2011 2:36 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | I am good with 2 set releases. I will be better with one release. It's torture having to wait for more when there really is no need to.
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by SuperDave80s at 4/4/2011 2:05:46 PM
As I said before this series is going to be broken up upon release. The first season was only 5 episodes long and then was it 60 more. Well how would you like to see it released? 1st season 5 shows on a single disc then season 2 part 1 and season 2 part 2? Or see it get released maybe 15 shows at a time? Let me know your opinions.
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| 4/5/2011 2:45 PM |
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SuperDave80s
Member since: 1/10/2011 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Well I can tell you it won't be coming out in one set, it will for sure be broken up in two to three sets at least. But it will get released in it's entirety, not leaving the fans with half a set or something like that. A season one 5 episode disc would be good for casual fans but will the collectors step up and buy a single disc release knowing that the more sales could mean a better mastered and extras filled season 2 sets? Well hoping more people would chime in and let me know. Looking forward to your replies. Thanks!
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| 4/5/2011 10:28 PM |
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Zaranyzerak
Member since: 5/28/2008 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Part of the reason for it being broken up into so many sets is most MOD titles are usually done on single layer discs rather than dual layer as most pressed disc releases are, so fewer episodes per disc (5 MAX) to keep the quality up.
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| 4/6/2011 1:33 PM |
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Shipwreck
Member since: 4/16/2010 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Valley of the DInosaurs is 16 episodes two discs with DVD-9. |
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| 4/7/2011 1:00 PM |
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Zaranyzerak
Member since: 5/28/2008 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Hence why I said "most" and not "all." There are always exceptions. The vast majority of MOD titles are DVD-5's.
The Multimedia Chronicles and more:
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| 4/7/2011 7:38 PM |
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Shipwreck
Member since: 4/16/2010 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | Chances are most of their future tv releases will be on DVD-9s since Valley just came out. |
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| 4/27/2011 4:28 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | I can't wait........ |
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| 5/1/2011 7:22 AM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | remastered and ready for preorders:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Challenge-GoBots-The-Original-Mini-Series/15326 |
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| 5/1/2011 3:09 PM |
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Omega Supreme
Member since: 3/6/2009 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Preordered. Did Warner say they were doing the whole series or is that all speculation?
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by N8 Storm at 5/1/2011 7:22:51 AM
remastered and ready for preorders:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Challenge-GoBots-The-Original-Mini-Series/15326
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| 5/1/2011 4:53 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | | They've said they plan to. My guess is two volumes of 30 episodes each since they've said it won't be more than 3 releases including the mini-series. |
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| 5/10/2011 10:09 AM |
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Bryan^H
Member since: 10/31/2010 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | Well, according to WB on Facebook they made a statement that said "we own the entire series of Gobots".
Whether or not they plan to release the rest of the episodes is a mystery. The very question was asked directly to them, and they answered the question by talking only about the mini-series. Confusing studio double talk does nothing to keep fans interested.
NOTE: in the Bestseller category of animation of the WB site, Gobots is currently placed #4 being beat out by the likes of MR. T, Herculoids, Frankenstein Jr. and the Impossibles. Don't know about you guys but I'm starting to worry we won't see the rest released. |
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| 5/10/2011 3:19 PM |
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N8 Storm
Member since: 2/22/2007 | | RE: The Challenge of the Gobots | They've talked about releasing the entire series before. They said it wouldn't be released in more than 3 sets including the mini-series set (so my guess is two sets of 30 episodes each). I'm not sure if best sellers is ranked by money taken in (in which case GoBots has a much lower price tag than others) or numbers sold, but regardless GoBots has been ranked towards the top the entire time since it has been up for pre-order both in the H-B section and the entire warnerachive store. It has been doing very well. I don't see why it wouldn't get a full release. It isn't like they get stuck with a bunch of unwanted copies if something doesn't sell as much as they'd like. I don't have any fears. |
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